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Is Heroin Orally Active?

iameatingjam said:
ketamine is a crystal....
heroin is a powder...
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Uncut ketamine prepared by drying pharmacutical vials for Iv use is a crystal. If the water is boiled down the ket amine can get charred a bit and turn ligtly brown.

Cut ketamine is a powder.
 
I would think you'd be able to discern between the two by smell alone if you were really in a pinch (though why the two drugs would be sold as the other is beyond me). Heroin has a sort of vinegar smell to it. K doesn't, and tastes sort of bitter-salty.
 
heroin definatly has a smell to it, especially when cooked up.. but if u dont know the difference between ketamine and heroin.. u shouldnt be doing either of them...

and from personal experience heroin is only reallly addictive when IVed
 
Can we close this?

There has never been any record cases of "ketamine" being cut with heroin or heroin sold as "ketamine". It just doesn't happen.

1. Heroin is much more expensive than ketamine.
2. Someone who was sold heroin as "ketamine" could have a very bad experience with it, but not orally.
3. It would be quite obvious to 99% of people that they received heroin instead of ketamine.

Ok? Thank you, drive through.
 
Chemethist said:
and from personal experience heroin is only reallly addictive when IVed
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WRONG :\ 8o 8o 8o

I knew heroin was addictive no matter what MOA but I got into it cause I really didnt care about the risk. I was bumming out down and out on myself......

I was hooked from snorting in under a month. Now granted most people don't get hooked that fast from snorting, but it does happen. A little under a year later I tried the needle...... 5 months after that I was at the methadone clinic 8o 8o 8o

2 years later..... I use prescription opiates but never touch heroin....... And I am a happy camper :D
 
iameatingjam said:
ketamine is a crystal....
heroin is a powder...
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Yeah, this is what I was thinking.. Ketamine is a white crystalline powder where heroin in hcl form doesn't look nearly as crystalized. The problem is that your ketamine could be cut with an inactive (or active) ingredient or both, which could change the way it looks. You really should only buy from people you trust. Most heroin smells like vinegar. Ketamine doesn't have much of a smell, but it has a distinct taste that is hard to describe.
 
proxopata said:
...For example if i get some powdered ketamine, I wouldn't like to snort it b/c it may turn out to be Heroin...
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10 people have probably said this already, but you should wish to be so lucky...
 
Heroin is probably more inexpensive than ketamine in London - not speaking from experience, but still. It'd surprise me if it were the other way around.

The chances of something being sold to you as heroin and actually being ketamine are slim to none.
 
smokester said:
Hardly. Other drugs which will get you farther snorted include morphine, hydromorphone, etc.
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you wrong buddy, morphine would get you less high snorted than eaten.
as it's intranasal BA is only 15% near the 30% oral (heroin - 50% intranasal BA)
and of course from my personal experience.
 
dip your finger in the powder and taste test it, ketamine has a real bitter, chemical taste to it, and is very white and crystally
 
uh... heroin is nontoxic
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So all these stories of heroin ODs are just urban myths? Of course it's bloody toxic...


and from personal experience heroin is only reallly addictive when IVed
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I think thousands of people who thought smoking heroin wasn't addictive, only to find themselves with a big monkey on their back might care to disagree
 
"Only addictive when iv'ed"

Ha! Tell that to all the snorters, who by the way are the majority in the NE US. (I know you're talking about personal experience, but we're just stating that it's wrong. We're here to spread harm reduction after all.)

As for toxicity, I think most people don't realize that an overdose = poisoning.
 
fastandbulbous said:
So all these stories of heroin ODs are just urban myths? Of course it's bloody toxic...
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there are two different meanings to toxicity. one is likelihood if overdose, the other is physiological damage

i was referring to the latter. physiologically, heroin is benign
 
phrozen said:
"Only addictive when iv'ed"

Ha! Tell that to all the snorters, who by the way are the majority in the NE US. (I know you're talking about personal experience, but we're just stating that it's wrong. We're here to spread harm reduction after all.)

As for toxicity, I think most people don't realize that an overdose = poisoning.
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That's what I was thinking, wait until SonOf sees this....
 
qwe said:
there are two different meanings to toxicity. one is likelihood if overdose, the other is physiological damage

i was referring to the latter. physiologically, heroin is benign
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So use the term neurotoxic?
 
Diphenhydramine burns like hell when you snort it. A few years ago I tried snorting the powder from some Benadry capsules, I couldn't even do a razor blade size line!

That, along with a particular bundle of dope I once had was the worst snorting experience I ever had.

I can't comment on ketamine, as I've never tried it.
 
lacey k said:
Either you are gettin brown K, or you think that heroin is white for some reason.

K is crystalline, it might be powder, but the powder dont look like heroin at all. Even if you got some extremely light heroin you still cant mistake it for K. You dont gotta be afraid of confusing the 2 of them. like i said, powder K looks nothin like powder H. dont worry.
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You apparently get shit heroin. I've seen plenty of pure white H.

where exactly does the word "china white" come from?
 
Chemethist said:
heroin definatly has a smell to it, especially when cooked up.. but if u dont know the difference between ketamine and heroin.. u shouldnt be doing either of them...

and from personal experience heroin is only reallly addictive when IVed
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wow its official you sir are an absolut idiot

really where the fuck did you get this idea

MOA does not matter with any substance


if it is potentially addictive when IVed then it can be addictive snorted or eaten or smoked or shoved up your ass

it all ends up in your blood

you need to abandon the chem name anybody with a high school understanding of chemistry understands this
 
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