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Is freebase DMT scary like salvia?

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Hey all, I recently got a hold of some freebase DMT, but i'm scared to try it due to past experiences with salvia. The first time i tried salvia, I packed a huge bong bowl of 80x extract and torched it. It was the most intense trip i'd ever experienced and it gave me an incredibly scary body high. The visuals themselves were neat, but the entire trip i had this feeling of wet pain pulsing through my brain. It felt like someone was smacking my head with a 2x4 plank of wood over and over. I tried salvia two more times after that and had the same painful pulsing feeling. Does DMT give the same feeling that salvia gives?
 
dmt is not like that. i'll never touch salvia again, but dmt is among my absolute favourite substances. it's completely different than salvia
if you're scared of it being too intense, you can always smoke less and work your way up from there. either in one sitting or in another sitting (the latter is recommended if you want a breakthrough experience)
 
Intense "Pounding wet pain"? See a doctor, that sounds sooo not right, man. Maybe you have some neuro-circulatory condition. Salvia never did anything painful or "throbby" to me. Or maybe it was an overdose reaction of some kind, a huge bowl of 80X does seem like alot.

Also, according to www.salviatruth.com and other sites (google the two words together - salvia analgesic):


The traditional Mazatec use of Salvia divinorum to treat headaches and arthritis also attests to its efficacy as an analgesic​
 
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Yeah it's a lot cleaner and natural feeling than any drug I've done. I haven't had salvia but it has a real natural feel unlike LSD and Mushrooms, which seem to have their own personalities or something. I've never done huge doses of Mushrooms though, I've always just found them quite confusing but that's just me.

That being said it's also the most intense drug I've done, by far, if you're really freaked out about it being too much just start with 20 or 30mg.
I find it can be quite difficult to smoke as well. I wasted almost a point trying to do it with various smoking tools when first trying it.
 
threshold doses feel very similar to salvia. if you take enough hits it will be something else.... my advice is to load a phat bowl and rip it til you cant
then close your eyes :D enjoy my friend
 
dmt is so relaxing its like a massage and the visuals are awsome i always feel as if im in ancient egypt when i close my eyes
 
dmt can be really euphoric. it can have a sort of shiny lightness. it can be intense, even dark - but nothing like salvia.
i don't like salvia, but i love dmt.
 
I don't know what chemical you guys are talking about. lol

DMT is not a relaxing thing for me. It's like my whole world was torn into two pieces and everything in between went to complete insanity. Very uneasy type of feeling going into a blacked out state where you cannot move and feeling like you were strapped to a rocket head first that was just launched through a space full of color globules and shot through a womb like membrane into entity land.

Not relaxing at all for me. More like groundbreaking world shattering wild teleportation into the unknown. I cannot relax when something like that is about to happen. haha

Maybe sometimes when you get back from entity land it's euphoric.. but I'm telling you the journey getting there is freaking crazy. That's why they call it blasting off. You really do kinda feel like you rode a rocket ship to another dimension.

Somebody telling me to relax before taking DMT would be like telling me to relax when I'm hanging over a drop of the worlds largest roller coaster.

You guys want to know what relaxing hallucinations are try MXE.
 
i definitely agree that dmt is not usually 'relaxing'. but if you get the dose right, it can be a very pleasant experience, weird or not.
on the other hand, i would never say salvia was pleasant in any way.
 
Salvia is not enjoyable to many people. It is perhaps one of the least enjoyable psychs out there. Why do you think you see salvia trips on youtube and not dmt trips? 1. because saliva trips almost always cause fear and anxiety 2. because DMT is more rare and 3. welll just watching somebody on saliva is kinda funny lol
 
MrDiamondFDC said:
DMT is like crack with pretty colors. Way better than Salvia.
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i can see what your saying in regards to intensity and rapid onset but i feel like that is a very offensive statement in the sense that crack is in no way useful (IMO) and 'with pretty colors' is an extreme dumbing down of whats actually going on

both drugs are useful, but they are not the same. treat both with respect

EDIT: woops i didnt answer the original ?

IMO/E DMT can be scary in the sense that any psychadelic journey can be intimidating leading up to it, once in the experience it can still be somewhat scary in that you are no longer in control, but i believe if you just sit back, stay calm and absorb then you will find its not as scary as you initially thought. though at times there can still be a sense of fear

but i wouldnt not say the fear is like the fear one can get from salvia, i mean fear is fear but the experiences are very different so IMO the fear is also different
 
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I know it sounds bad. I was hooked for 7 years and it started because I liked to smoke crack when I was tripping.The rush of DMT feels almost exactly like a big hit of crack though.
 
Sounds like I'm only parroting the choir here, but DMT is far more intense than salvia - but also less likely to be a painful experience. Intense as hell? You bet. But typically not something I fear and loathe like sallyD. Perhaps consider a val beforehand?
 
I have a friend that is an ex crack-addict, and she says smoking DMT definitely reminds her of "crack with pretty colors", although I will agree, this is a vastly dumbed down description of what smoking DMT is like.

I think it's "crack like" for some people because you must:
a) smoke it
b) tastes similar to freebase cocaine apparently
c) kicks in immediately with a tremendous rush

i've never smoked crack, but I bet DMT is 100000% healthier feeling than how smoking crack feel. DMT makes me feel floaty and euphoric and dreamy.
 
DMT feels more spiritual in my opinion. Whenever I've done DMT, good, bad or HORRIBLE trip, I always come out of it learning
something about myself, existence and life. Unlike salvia where I just came out of it wondering "wtf?!!?"..

Granted next time i try salvia, it will be in a more relaxing place.

After awhile with DMT, you realize every trip has its meaning:)
 
I don't get a spiritual feeling or presence of entities with DMT like I do with Salvia. I like it for the strong euphoric rush & visuals. I haven't got a chance to mix it with DXM yet so I'm gonna do that this weekend.
 
all i can say is respect the molecule. that shit has power over the mind and can be fucking intense and scary at times if you dont use caution and maybe start off with lower dosages to begin with. get comfortable with the nasty harsh taste but you will get used to it and then get used to everything look insanely clearer and brighter and more depth, deep digital-like fractals that can suck you in to new worlds and places to see and things to learn. dmt is crazy and fun and beneficial...just show it respect and it will return the courtesy. :)
 
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