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moo4me

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Ive bin looking around the internet and it seems as if what ive bin calling exctacy %) is actualy 2C-B and MDMA is actualy exctacy. Is this true or is this the internet miss informing me again.8(
 
Lol MDMA is ecstasy, E, M, X, XTC, Molly, Mandy, and Moonrocks. Other MDxx substances are included in the street slang such as MDA, bk-MDMA, MDE, MDEA, MDAI, MDMAI, and so on. However, the most common one you'll find of these MDxx substances is MDMA. It's an empathogen that causes a large release of seratonin to flood your brain, which in turn sets you on a course for emotional bliss and love and heightened tactile sensation. It puts you in a state of....ecstasy?

2C-B is a psychadelic which causes physical/mental/visual effects that are a night and day difference from MDxx substances. A "heavy" body high where the buzz throughout feels like you're packing an extra 100lbs on your body. It causes LSD-like visuals such as swirling and oozing designs of darker colors when contrasted to a lighter background. Paint texture and color differences on walls, texture on counter tops, daytime clouds against a blue sky, trees moving like there's a breeze on a calm day, etc. It reacts on different receptors in the brain than MDxx substances, therefore giving completely different effects. There is a euphoria that accompanies it, but not the overwhelming "love" that MDMA provides as it does not "bust the seratonin dam" in your head.

There's the layman differences in it. I'm sure the scientific side is soon to follow from other members. You can easily differentiate between the two chemicals by a simple and inexpensive route. A test kit. dancesafe.org sells them and the color reactions that each of these chemicals give are as blatantly obvious as their effects they have on you.

Not only that, but depending on where you live can completely change your odds of actually getting the real chemical themselves. I mean no belittlement in saying this, but if you are asking questions such as the title of this thread, then your experience/knowledge leads you blindly right into the cross-hairs of taking some really horrible chemicals sold to you as MDMA or 2C-B or whatever else you THINK or are being TOLD you're buying.

The world is flooded with garbage and money hungry people that could give two squirts of piss about you and if what they're selling you could hurt you. Research, research, RESEARCH everything you can possibly find that you will choose to ingest and ALL of their effects on you, how they work to cause those effects, what not to do/take/be on when you choose to take them, how you can assure yourself that what you're taking is what it it's supposed to be, and proper dosing of each because a standard dose of what you THINK to be MDMA at 100-125mg could horribly wreck your fuckin shit sideways if it turned out to be 2C-B who's "sweet spot" dose is 20mg.

Those are astronomical differences when you're confusing two chemicals such as these. Research my friend.
 
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Ecstasy is the nickname given to MDMA. However, different sources will say ecstasy is the name given to a few substances, MDMA always being listed among them. Some informed users I've talked to will say that they consider only MDMA, MDA and MDE to be ecstasy. I don't recall the source, but one site even included PMA among the substances it considered E. There are other chemicals that may often be referred to ecstasy, including MBDB and Methylone.

It's not surprising to see some people refer to MDA and MDE as ecstasy, since they are closely related to MDMA and their presence in pills usually isn't frowned upon by informed users.

Erowid recognizes ecstasy to be MDMA and MDMA only, although MDE and MDA are listed in the related vaults. Personally, I always tell people that ecstasy = MDMA, and explain that MDA, MDE, MBDB, MDHMA, and Methylone are closely associated, yet on their own, not considered ecstasy.
 
What happens when you take tge drug you think is extacy
How long does it last
And how mutch do you take
And how mutch does it cost per hit
 
What happens when you take tge drug you think is extacy
How long does it last
And how mutchdo you take
And how mutch does it cost per hit
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These are all variables that have no specific answer without something specific to refer to.

Experience, Duration, Dose, Cost all change depending on the specific drug.

The best answer here for you is invest in a TEST KIT.

Ensure you have an active dose of MDMA then a lot of these questions get eliminated.

In regards to how much specific drugs cost not a topic for here but a search on google will provide the financial information you require.
 
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These are all variables that have no specific answer without something specific to refer to.

Experience, Duration, Dose, Cost all change depending on the specific drug.

The best answer here for you is invest in a TEST KIT.

Ensure you have an active dose of MDMA then a lot of these questions get eliminated.

In regards to how much specific drugs cost not a topic for here but a search on google will provide the financial information you require.
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I was asking the op the effect profile fir the drug he has been taking?
 
I was asking the op the effect profile fir the drug he has been taking?
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I thought the op was just asking about the word Ecstasy having potentially different meanings? Never mind my mistake.


The basis of this Post is quite an interesting one.

The Term Ecstasy is a slang term.

The definition of slang - Slang is the use of informal words and expressions that are not considered standard or professional in the speaker's language or dialect but are considered more acceptable when used socially.

Effectively what this is saying is Ecstasy can mean anything that a certain group of people feels is socially acceptable.

In the OPs circle of friends Ecstasy could mean just a club tablet with what ever in it. It could mean 2CB and MDMA in tablets are infact ecstasy.

For the sake of this discussion i guess we should figure out what we as bluelighters think Ecstasy should mean. Or do we accept Ecstasy as a slang term and in terms of HR refrain from using it as by its very nature it is an inacurate description.

I guess for me personally I would assume Ecstasy to be - A tablet - And make a Marquis test turn purple - So effectively saying Ecstasy is an MD** analog tablet.

I would not associate ecstasy with powders. Powder turning purple I would think 9/10 is MDMA powder.

Just my 2C..
 
I see what your saying to a extent futura
"Gear" is very often used in differnt ways
Even witg in drugs it can be pot smack or steriods
Equally

But in this case its more like ppl call 2cb trippy extacy cos
Its easier to sell that way
 
I see what your saying to a extent futura "Gear" is very often used in differnt ways Even witg in drugs it can be pot smack or steriods Equally

But in this case its more like ppl call 2cb trippy extacy cos Its easier to sell that way
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Totally agree with this.

Two completely different entities.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MDMA, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2C-B

Ecstasy is MDMA.
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Maybe in yours opinion but Ecstasy is a Slang Term.

Even in the Slang Dictionary they make this statement

slang is the continual and ever-changing use and definition of words in informal conversation
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As a result Ecstasy amongst your friends may well be MDMA. In other circles 2CB may well be trippy Ecstasy.

It just depends thats my point.

Look up the definition of Slang Term and you will see there is no definite answer.

In relation to HR much better to refer to the specific drug name.

Hence why gymstud was asking the op duration, feeling, cost etc cause noone knows WTF ecstasy actually is.

I think we should rid ourselves of this awful Media Hype Terminology personally. Lets use PIHKAL and TIHKAL as our reference for Drug names not some Slang term made up by the tabloid press.
 
^^ nails I used your specific dictionary link and it pulled up this:


Ecstasy Slang definition
[ˈɛkstəsi]

a hallucinogen similar to LSD. (Drugs.) : Chemicals with names like “Ecstasy” are being put on the streets every day.

I also used your link and scrolled down and looked at the meaning of slang.

Slang Dictionary

a specialized dictionary covering the words, phrases, and idioms that reflect the least formal speech of a language. These terms are often metaphorical and playful, and are likely to be evanescent as the spoken language changes from one generation to another.

No one is right or wrong in itself a "Slang" term is what ever your group of friends would like it to mean. If the Ops mates want 2CB to be ecstasy then that is acceptable cause they are using slang teminology.

I then followed your advice and searched the term Ecstasy on Google yes you are right some say Ecstasy is MDMA but others said this:

A big problem with ecstasy is that it’s rarely pure. You can’t be sure what’s in it and you can’t predict how you’ll react. Sometimes, there is no MDMA at all. Though a recent study found that in some parts of the country the amount of MDMA in ecstasy was increasing.

Ecstasy
MDMA, MDEA, burgers, ecstasy, E, eckies, echos, exies, mitzies, tablets


Quote from wiki in your original post

MDMA has become widely known as "ecstasy" (shortened to "E", "X", or "XTC"), usually referring to its street pill form, although this term may also include the presence of possible adulterants.


Just out of interest what would you call a pill that turns Marquis Purple? That could be MDA, MDEA, MDMA etc is this an ecstasy pill or is it just a pill that might have MDMA in it?


I really think for the greats of HR we should axe this dreadful term as soon as possible cause in my book it dont mean shit.

I guess it indicates a drug in a pill that might have an MD** analog in it thats about it. Even then this is doubtful.
 
It's all fuelled from misinformed users.. Ecstasy was and should be MDMA.. it was a slang name given to MDMA..

But you are right.. people (mostly thanks to misinformed users / dealers) will call whatever they want ecstasy..

If someone sells you "acid".. you expect to get LSD.. you'd be pissed if it was bromo-dragonfly.. would you not?
 
Ecstasy has such a negative stigma attached to it. Not only that but it sounds pretty gay imo. Much prefer MD and mandy as nicknames for MDMA. Worst of the lot is 'molly' - to me its the gayest name for it. Funny thing is if you mention MDMA to alot of anti-drug bandits they don't even know what it is until you mention Ecstasy.

Note i'm not homophobic, gay is an adjective I use to describe something 'cheesy' or 'weak.'
 
While it is true that ecstacy refers to mdma, if you have both mdma and 2c-b, then get prepared for a night of untold ecstacy as you do the mdma first, followed by the 2c-b. Slang terms can mean anything and everything, the detail is in the molecule :)
 
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