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Is crack worth it?

One thing above all others. You are supposed to have fun. That is what responsible use of drugs is for. Have fun and potentiate the moment. Crack is not fun. It is the worst drug scene possible. There is no dancing, not much good conversation, no enjoying the game or band. Just 'when is my next hit coming'. Once its gone, you have a handful of people wondering how they are going to finish out the night without crawing out their skin. People looking for that last hit. At least a line of coke can cause some conversation over a few beers. The only way I'd every do it again is if some hot chick insisted on a good long night of it with her. The only way.
 
Oh. And just thought I'd mention. Its after the crack is gone, naturally someone or folks have to go look for more. If the regular dealer can't be reached, this is when you wind up in jail. Trying to find the shit. So... you are either fiending and waiting for those to get back from a run with your cash or you are coming down off of a night of crack in the slammer. A night of crack comedown in the slammer is IMO worse than a week of severe opiate w/d. Given a choice, I would actually take the week of w/d. And sadly, I am doing just that..... the w/d.... not the crack slammer.
 
That is what responsible use of drugs is for.
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Oxymoron if I've ever heard one, but you can be "more responsible" in your use - ie not get busted...

You can have fun in many other ways. This idea that drugs can provide a certain avenue of expanding your mind is myopic and foolhardy.

No matter who you are, it's best if you don't do illegal drugs at all. People who don't use can be just as fulfilled and live as crazy or wild experiences all the same. The only difference is one won't guarantee you're place in jail.

Here's a quote that should be well worth noting: If it can't go on forever, it is going to end.

If you keep using drugs, you will go to jail one day. Everyone has a number, and continuing your use only brings you closer and closer to that reality.
 
Just to add to the fun.
Consider these various scenes:

1. You enter a room full of stoners smoking dope, giggling, and watching cartoons: Reaction: WHO CARES, Right

2. You enter a room full of people dancing, wiggling, and writhing to music off MDMA or LSD. Reaction: Get me beer, or hey where can I get into this groove. Not trying to encourage it. Just for comparison.

3. You enter a room full of people that have just found a potatoe chip crumb, think it might be crack, and gather round for a fourth or fifth generation hit off that chip. Nobody is having fun, people are searching their pockets etc.

Reaction: You run, go away, go home get sleep. be normal. This is the crack scene. Stay away. Its ugly.
 
TheodoreRoosevelt said:
Oxymoron if I've ever heard one, but you can be "more responsible" in your use - ie not get busted...
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Maybe. But I will never be busted or in jail for my use. Its all legal. CP patient. Not saying its good. Its not. But my end was to feel well and have fun, get things done. Still is. Problem is that opiates need lots of time and care. Responisble use is out of mosts realm. Possibly mine too.
 
lmao, gg crack, i hae no idea how u get 10 hits out of a 10 peice like seriously how much crack do u get for 10 bux? i mean a good hit is like a little less then a point to get a nice ringer
 
Maybe. But I will never be busted or in jail for my use. Its all legal. CP patient. Not saying its good. Its not. But my end was to feel well and have fun, get things done. Still is. Problem is that opiates need lots of time and care. Responisble use is out of mosts realm. Possibly mine too.
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Nothing wrong with that then. If you can legally use or abuse your drugs, I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

I don't think there's a big problem with people shooting heroin or doing crack necessarily, just the fact that it is illegal and can very realistically land your ass in jail, or ruin your life with a conviction on your record.
 
well after a long time of debateing i prolly wont try that. But the funnyest thing happend with that lmao. I went to grab sum k and my dealer had sum rocks on him right. Well u might not kno this but when sumthing is in front of me its hard to say no. So i ended up doing it and i reliezed everything u guys saiad was tru. I didnt feind but i wanted more pretty bad and i had sum liquoir for the come down. But i think its great but its gone so quick
 
Aside from crack being a total waste of Cocaine (I'm an IV coke user)...I;ve seen crack do terrible things to poeples lives and minds.

Its the one drug I'[ve never [paid for and I KNOW i never will. crack is evil stuff. I've smoked it on several occasions and always found it to be a worthless waste of good cocaine....

Stick with soft--its much better and more fun.
 
I have no/limited sources.

But hold on, how is an IV coke user telling a a kid not to try crack? That seems to be quite a paradox in my opinion. Wasn't it mentioned somewhere that the amount of time IV Cocaine use takes to kill you is under ten years? I know I didn't just pull it out of my ass, but maybe someone else did. Crack can lead to serious problems when introduced (correctly or incorrectly introduced, however you view it) to the wrong demographic.

But what kind of demographic is long term crack user? Few, rare. Like Patriots going 19-0 rare, oh yeah it never fucking happened. I'm sure there are a few guys on here, but over a prolonged amount of time (20+ years) the survival rate simply drops to zero.

IV coke has these demographics:

1- I know what I'm doing, but dont give a shit.
2- I never said I knew what I was doing, but this feels right.
3- I'm only going to do it rarely and on certain occasions, I can reduce the damage by doing it safely and "blah, blah, blah". Coke is evil.

So you tried crack and realized we were right, who was right? Haha, ring ring. What a rant, I'm out.
 
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Wasn't it mentioned somewhere that the amount of time IV Cocaine use takes to kill you is under ten years?
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Myth, and I believe it was that "The average heroin will die within 10 years of first using heroin".

But hold on, how is an IV coke user telling a a kid not to try crack?
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I think that person was saying that you should IV coke/crack, and not waste your money and time smoking it.

Personally I say no drug is worth it, and you are better without ever trying any drugs whatsoever. Nothing is worth going to jail for, and a conviction on your record will make life many times over more difficult for the most trivial matters, as well as life-changing ones like a job or a girlfriend.

Do what you do, but just remember everyone has a number. If it can't go on forever then it will end. You keep using drugs, inevitably you will face legal consequence. Every drug user has, or will.

I haven't, but that is because I try to be smart about my use and convictions as a minor don't show up on any record at all in my state.
 
yeah i got busted two years ago and my life has changed since then. its harder to get a job- any job that runs background checks won't hire me. a lot of apartments and landlords run background checks too. when they see that you have something on your record they either won't accept you, or they will make you give them a much higher deposit. i could go on and on as to why it sucks to have a criminal record. luckily if i stay out of trouble for 5 more years i can get my records sealed
 
Coke and crack are both fun, but they really test your self control. It's REALLY easy to let it become a problem and you may not even realize it until things get out of hand. If you are confident you can do coke/crack and not let it do you, then have fun, but if you have doubts its probably not a good idea.

Anyway I'd rather just have some amphetamine. lasts longer and more bang for your buck :)
 
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I'm sure there are a few guys on here, but over a prolonged amount of time (20+ years) the survival rate simply drops to zero.
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How can you be so sure? Where are the studies, the statistics? There aren't any or they are horribly biased like a Brazilian study that included collateral deaths like gang war deaths.

If someone is 48, it's true than 20 years on they risk being dead (whether they does crack or not) because they'll be 68 and a lot of people don't live that long. A drug that takes 20 years to kill you is not a killer, it is at most an unhealthy lifestyle.

My feeling with what happens to crackheads is this: they do it for 5 or 10 years until tolerance or boredom sets in, then they stop.

What is remarkable is the constancy with which so many drug users will call crack names if given half the chance, witness this thread. As though the drug they've been doing was any better. From what I see most people in dire straight on this forum are opiate users (and benzo addicts although I suspect they abuse benzos to alleviate opiate withdrawal syndromes). They are ready to take anything (ANYTHING!) rather than remain sober for a few days (hours?). They will snort Xanax, inject Valium, plug Ambien, drink codeine syrups like pints of beer, fake prescriptions .. I think if there's flooding in one part of town near a pharmacy, they will run to it lap up the water in the street where medecines are floating.
 
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