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you are withdrawling from loperamide??
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Maybe? Who really knows. Thats the problem with loading your body with chemicals and then stopping some. I dont know its still the oxy withdrawal, or if its the the loperamide (which I have been assured does give you withdrawal if you use it as I have), or it could be buprenorphine, which I stopped like 1.5 weeks ago, but have had something in my system since.

Or hell, Im normally prescribed Ambien, and I have my last dose tonight. I havent taken any in like 5 days and Im used to it near nightly. So who knows, maybe thats throwing an extra something in the mix.

Eitherway, the loperamide evens me out, so I figure as long as I stick with that, everything else will get out eventually. :\
 
just do a slow taper with loperamide untill you only need 1 in the morning and 1 at night then you can keep that does for a few days then stop alltogether.
 
Matt_Himself said:
Ugh, Im in between classes and I feel lousy. Not nearly as bad as I might, but I can tell tapering below 10mg of loperamide is not gonna be easy...

12mg I feel fine, 10mg I feel way to hot and a bit nauseas. I can still carry out my daily routine, but its an ordeal. But Im gonna wait for tonight to take more. After all, if I feel shitty now, I might as well tough it out a little longer and hope it helps :(
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....mmmm wow, thats like saying someone would withdrawl if they stopped taking rolaids everynight???? or am I missing somthing here I think that was like anti diarrea stuff you get at like kroger? LOL?
 
It is an opiate derivative, just non-narcotic in small doses. I have RARELY heard of anyone getting high off them. They don't cross the BBB easily, or need a catylst to do so.

People can withdrawal from many drugs, even those that cause no high. Basically, you can w/d on a drug you're helping to w/d from another drug from even w/o ever getting high off it in the first place. As I said, acid butt ;)

I use loperamide a bit, along with rolaid multi-symptom (simethicone for gas and the calcium for my acid buildup from the hcl-acid from the damage the alcohol does to my stomach. If I don't have them during my tapering, it can suck (actually the opposite!)
 
MrCream said:
....mmmm wow, thats like saying someone would withdrawl if they stopped taking rolaids everynight???? or am I missing somthing here I think that was like anti diarrea stuff you get at like kroger? LOL?
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Hahahaha yea, I take them strictly to curb my sickness. Without it, I would have spent a week bedridden. Now Im spending a few weeks feeling a bit off instead. But if I miss a dose...
 
count me in.. i was suffering from sore muscles and shit until i got some more opies in my body. i was struggling though, i havn`t gotten used to the withdrawl symptoms yet, but I was oc bingin for awhile, did two fentanyl 100mcg/h - ate it all at one time (10mg of fentanyl) which i think caused me to go into the withdrawl because i was fine before doing the fent. my tolerance is pretty high so i just ate the whole patch at once because it was the last of the opiates i had. i`m starting my love/hate relationship with opiates instead of just the love because of my increased use. hopefully i`ll be fine in a few days
 
unfortunatly, it hasn't been THAT long since I posted this thread.
W/D'ing again, right now. Not that bad though. The first three days were the worst. Day ONE, I had an obligation I had to stick to, which was moving someone out of a fucking 26 story HIGH RISE into a 5 floor WALK-UP. I got paid really well, but it was FUCKING HELL. I think after doing that after going cold turkey, having to put down boxes to go to the bathroom every 25-30 minutes, I can get through anything.

Maybe that can be a lesson learnt to W/D'ers right now? Do something extremely draining, to the point of wanting to kill yourself. I swear that move detoxed my system in a day. I'm on day 4 right now. Going to do 6 days.
 
pedaltopedal said:
This time the withdrawls were easily 5 times worse than they have ever been, probally due to the fact that I got to the point where I had to dose every 4 hours on pods to keep withdrawls away. I switched to tramadol for awhile before quitting cold turkey a week ago. My god this has been hell.

The worst is obviously over with, but Im still experiencing pain in my legs/back as well as insomnia and chills. The depression is killing me.

Ive been spending the last couple of days contemplating a relapse... why? because I honestly feel like I cannot find a reason not to. I feel horrible, its been a week and its not really improving much day by day. Im depressed, Ive always been and opiates cured that. So why not? Why shouldnt I just except the lifestyle and go back? Ive been doing this for years, why not the rest of my life?
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You know, this is exactly my experience recently. The last time I had to kick opiates and go through WD's, it wasn't nearly as bad as it is now. The last time, I had some adderals to help (which they do, for a couple of hours) and I dosed on small batches of poppy seed tea during the 3 days I figured it would take me to detox. This was about a year ago. After I had tapered down for 3 days, and popped about a dozen adderal over the course of this time, I was basically done with the physical part and only had to deal with depression. Now, it has been a couple of weeks and I still have the fucking aches, resltess leg, and not as much insomnia, but some. And the depression, yeah that too. I also have a fever and chills this time, something I've never dealt with before when going through withdrawals.

A friend of mine told me that dosing with 2CE would help with everything, physical and mental. I have 60 mg and was thinking about doing half of it today and half of it in another few days.

Just curious, but does anybody else have any experience with 2CE while withdrawing from opiates?
 
i made a thread sometime in sep of 06 about 2ci and opiate withdrawls, if your search u might find it. when i did it i popped it in the morning tripped through the day and didnt get any physical or mental cravins or sickness.

i think it was since i was TRIPPING SO HARD that it was impossible for me to comprehend my addiction or something like that, however the next day i awoke to find myself in wd. if you have a question just pm me
 
yeah i've been walking on the edge with WD's lately. last real dose was sunday afternoon, I've gotten by on itty bitty doses of random shit through 2 days. couldn't sleep a wink last night really but managed 2 or 3 hours somehow, maybe the 300mg of trazodone helped a little. ive never tryed to detox with loperamide, maybe i'll try some next time, or tonight if this half an 80 doesn't come through for me.
 
i've taken about... 60 mg's of loperamide today and its helping a LOT. i almost feel normal and the last few days of WD have been severely unpleasant.
 
there is only one person who i know that happened to not grow a problem with the drugs, when he was handling them. it was just about impossible to believe
 
Hey, second day here w/d for me from using OC 80's and percocet 10/325,

im going thru mild w/d's, the only thing that really bothers me is no motivation, pain all thru my body, bordom, i mean fucking insane bordom, like im going nuts, i feel like breaking into a CVS and robbing them for hundreds of thousands of opiates.

good weed is helping me keep these thoughts out of my head tho, and i feel as if i went to a clinic, that it would ruin my chance of ever being prescribed any kind of painkiller if infact i really had a legit reason to be prescribeb to them.

so i wait, and wait, and think, and lay in this room and think to my self, is this habit really worth it? is this how its going to be for the rest of me life?

i really hope not.
 
nile: from what you're saying, it just sounds like you arn't ready yet. If you're using the OC 80s and 10/325s from the street, you should try to get help soon. Maybe this w/d session won't motivate you, but guarenteed there will be one in the future soon. It won't ruin your chances of being prescribed anything, as if you are truely in pain and on suboxone or something, ideally there should be some communication between the two doctors to get you on something to take care of your pain. If you go on methadone, and you come across a legit pain problem, they'd probably just up your dose of methadone. From what it sounds like, no offense, is that you're uncertain of whether or not you want to stop using. It's okay, I'm not judging, because I have been on legit painkiller scripts for pain for years and I have had the same fears. Don't worry. Depending on where you are, doctors in clinics are very understanding and forgiving and are there for more than just a 9-5 (or a 7-7). Talk to someone. I couldn't imagine being addicted to PKs from the street; so fucking expensive and way too much uncertainty. Good luck

and people robbing CVS'es are the reason I get hasseled so much for my script. In nyc most pharmacies (CVS especially) won't tell you over the phone if they have a CII or CIII in stock! Because of them getting robbed! Even if you go there EVERY MONTH. This leads me to drudge around the whole fucking city looking for a pharmacy to fill my script! It sucks! I know you were joking, but I'm just sayin'. Some pharmacies have security guards with guns here too.
 
previouslyhere said:
nile: from what you're saying, it just sounds like you arn't ready yet. If you're using the OC 80s and 10/325s from the street, you should try to get help soon. Maybe this w/d session won't motivate you, but guarenteed there will be one in the future soon. It won't ruin your chances of being prescribed anything, as if you are truely in pain and on suboxone or something, ideally there should be some communication between the two doctors to get you on something to take care of your pain. If you go on methadone, and you come across a legit pain problem, they'd probably just up your dose of methadone. From what it sounds like, no offense, is that you're uncertain of whether or not you want to stop using. It's okay, I'm not judging, because I have been on legit painkiller scripts for pain for years and I have had the same fears. Don't worry. Depending on where you are, doctors in clinics are very understanding and forgiving and are there for more than just a 9-5 (or a 7-7). Talk to someone. I couldn't imagine being addicted to PKs from the street; so fucking expensive and way too much uncertainty. Good luck

and people robbing CVS'es are the reason I get hasseled so much for my script. In nyc most pharmacies (CVS especially) won't tell you over the phone if they have a CII or CIII in stock! Because of them getting robbed! Even if you go there EVERY MONTH. This leads me to drudge around the whole fucking city looking for a pharmacy to fill my script! It sucks! I know you were joking, but I'm just sayin'. Some pharmacies have security guards with guns here too.
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Yeah i dont think im ready yet either, if i was i would get help,

so your scripted OC's? must be nice, but im sure you have reasons that arent fun that go with it, did you go to a regular doc, or pain managment doc? how does it work?
 
i've been prescribed 6-8 10/325s a day for a few years but now I'm on something lower. I had the option for MSContin, but I refused. That's the "next step up" for me; OxyContin is being avoided at all costs (with good reason). I was at my primary care, who passed me to a pain clinic , but they passed me onto a surgeon, who passed me on to another surgeon, who passed me back to my primary care before surgery which isn't for a while. Everything came back full circle, and my tolerance to the medication skyrocketed the whole way around. I started on Hydrocodone originally, it wasn't until I was switched to Oxycodone that my tolerance literally soared through the roof. I've found that Oxycodone is a big hit or miss with real pain and kind of a slippery slope. I was also un-treated (but seen by doctors) for almost 1 year before I was put on any medication.

I predict that OxyContin goes obsolete in the next 10 years. I hope so anyways. The damage it's done to the legit-pain community has been irreversable. For those who are on it and need it, I think there are better things out there now, or soon... (opana, cheaper fentanyl patches, etc..).
 
malfunkshun said:
i've taken about... 60 mg's of loperamide today and its helping a LOT. i almost feel normal and the last few days of WD have been severely unpleasant.
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glad you tried it, a lot of people dont even try it becuz of how crazy it sounds, it could help so many addicts if everyone spreads the word, im planning on doing a 7-10 day withdrawal in a week or two to get my tolerance down, last month I did a 6 day withdrawal using loperamide and it was so easy even though i have a 400mg oxycontin tolerance, after the 6 days without OC my tolerance was cut by more than half, 160mgs a day got me higher than 400mgs got me the week or two before. That lasted a good week but now my tolerance is back up to 400mgs, so its time to try and taper a little, which is hard for me, i will prob end up finishing my stash in a big bindge like usuall lol.
 
robatussin said:
I think it is funny that some people are tending to get high and post in here rather than pist during wd.
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When in serious w/d I don't even like being on my computer. I like being in bed watching tv.
 
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