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Is addiction a disease?

I think addiction is a disease that some people are more prone to than others.
 
sure everyone has the ability to refuse more drugs. the idea of addiction is that some people, because of the unique chemical composition of their brains, have a more difficult time refusing than others. there are some diseases that you really have no control over--common cold for example, seems pretty random whether or not you get sick. addiction is one of those diseases where your behaviors and your genetics intersect to determine what will happen to you. cancer is another such disease.

lacey i agree with you that letting people blame their bad choices on a disease is no good. these people need to accept some responsiblity, but the fact is, it's just harder for some people because of their genes, and that part of it certainly isn't their fault.
 
snailman2102 said:
sure everyone has the ability to refuse more drugs. the idea of addiction is that some people, because of the unique chemical composition of their brains, have a more difficult time refusing than others.
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yea key word there is MORE DIFFICULT not IMPOSSIBLE....know what im sayin....

BTW, i am one of those ppl.

I have the most addictive fuckin personality homie. everything i try that i like, i LOVE. i gotta keep myself on a REALLL short leash dawg. but thats my choice i dont wanna have more problems like i have in the past. i love to drink, love to smoke weed. used to love to do e, to do coke, ESPECIALLY to do heroin and other opiates....to me when i find a high that i like, its like eating the most delicious meal ever when im STARVING...its just so good i dont wanna stop, like its filling up something inside (im sure alot of ppl feel like that.) its like a desperate enjoyment and it just grows and grows....so i know the feeling. addiction and problems like that runs in my family....

mom was a cokehead, 3 out of 4 granpaernts were alcoholics, uncle is on 5000000 different medications for depression and etc., mom & dad both had abusive parents, another uncle had like 7 or 8 DWI's been a alcoholic since long before i was born, etc i could go on but ill spare yall, you get the idea. if anyones predisposed to shit im one of em....which is what makes it harder and even more interesting to try and understand this shit....
 
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Did anyone see the recent South Park where stan's dad was told by AA that he was an alcoholic, so in his mind he became one. It was hilarious, but I think it brought up a good point.
 
My sister was convinced she was an alcoholic for like.. 6 months when she started to go to meetings for no reason. ( her boyfriend thought it would be good for her bipolar? ) She said that "The big book perfectly discribed her drug use. Of course it does, whether you drink once a day, or once a year the big book will say you are either an alcoholic or have alcoholic tendencies. About 4 weeks ago she realized she never had an alcohol problem, or a drug problem for that matter, but indeed has sevre bipoloar and mania.
 
as most of you know I am a pretty big supporter of AA/NA programs - and I think addiction qualifies as a disease.
 
i think many people use the disease model as a copout to relapse over and over..i have used many different drugs and only became hooked on opiods/opiates(heroin oxy, nubain, methadone)..i am clean now so do i feel like i have a disease, a brain disease??no, no at all as i dont even have cravigs whatsoevr...i DO realize that i know there is a very quick fix for unhappiness, disocntentment, boredom etetc and that quick fix is in the form of opiods...i know there is an incredible euphoria that can be experienced viz my drug of choice....we are all addcted to pleasure whether it be rom jerking off, sports, sex or whatever...

btw, i have went to a few meetings back in the day but i found them very SELF DEFEATING....to be honest they didnt make much sense to ME, they did me no good to hear war stories of addicts...i dont believe in the 12 steps, i simply believe in common sense, thats all i need to stay clean imo...
 
CreativeRandom said:
Cancer and AIDS have no cure at the moment.
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You're missing my point.
I'm assuming (from your previous comment) that you don't consider addiction a disease because it "has no cure", correct?
 
Mabe addiction is not a disease but people finding a cure

let's say a lady has a bad case of anxiety , if this person comes across benzodiazepines of course she will get addicted to them or at least have a higher chance than an average , iif she would have gone to a doctor she would have had them prescribed , is she diseased for recognizing her salvation/cure/antidote?
 
anxiety isn't a disease, its a disorder. Their is no cure for it either, it can only be tamed like like every other disorder.
 
Yeah I seen that episode. He was told he had a disease and was immediately in a wheel chair and praying to blood shitten Mary to help him! It was wak. Very funny
 
You're missing my point.
I'm assuming (from your previous comment) that you don't consider addiction a disease because it "has no cure", correct?
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I may be missing your point (or cynicism) because your assuming the wrong thing. If addiction really is a disease, as AxL BLaZe has concluded, then one wonders, is there a cure? And if there is a cure, what is it?

I have no input on the matter, but have no doubt that I am watching this thread closely. So far I particularly liked stoy420's comment that addiction is a disorder (which PureLife also stated) and belfort's comment as well (though it is poorly presented). That is just feedback though, nothing more.
 
If addiction really is a disease, as AxL BLaZe has concluded, then one wonders, is there a cure? And if there is a cure, what is it?
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A cure sealed up in a pill or liquid, some might claim that. Some medications allow a addict to get ahold of his disease and than sease using. Some other cures might be recovery groups. Some cures might be spiritual or religious, Some might be accupunture. Some cures might be throwing themselves into life. Yet others might be as simple as having a stong will. Some cures might be family support or maybe jail.

What sometimes mysteriously cures cancer?

Addiction with out a doubt is a disorder [physical and mental]. A mental disorder -> mental sickness -> a sickness, condition, syndrome -> an illness -> a disease. What is a disease?

Watches the people chase their tale's.
 
Watches the people chase their tale's.
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Pun intended?

A cure sealed up in a pill or liquid, some might claim that. Some medications allow a addict to get ahold of his disease and than sease using. Some other cures might be recovery groups. Some cures might be spiritual or religious, Some might be accupunture. Some cures might be throwing themselves into life. Yet others might be as simple as having a stong will. Some cures might be family support or maybe jail.
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One would assume that if it is a disease in the "true sense" (whatever you take that to be) , than the cure that exists must be some kind of drug, or chemical treatment. You know, something along the lines of an antivirus. However, if something like jail or therapy is the "cure", than it is more of a metaphor, no?

Disorder sounds about right then.

What cures exactly are a "pill or liquid"?
 
I think one of the most important advances in the addiction field in recent years has been the discovery that basically all recreational drugs affect a single pathway in the brain (mesolimbic reward system). It's believed to be the circuitry responsible for "pleasure". So essentially, recreational drugs activate the mesolimbic system so that we experience pleasure and reward in response to drug use. There are some major changes in the brain that occur when we transition from normal to addictive behavior.

CreativeRandom said:
If addiction really is a disease, as AxL BLaZe has concluded, then one wonders, is there a cure? And if there is a cure, what is it?
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They may not be "cures" but some examples are naltrexone, methadone, etc. etc. And CR, if you don't want me "assuming the wrong thing" you should avoid making open-ended, vague responses in the future.
 
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BlessedAnomaly said:
Did anyone see the recent South Park where stan's dad was told by AA that he was an alcoholic, so in his mind he became one. It was hilarious, but I think it brought up a good point.
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hypochondriac.
 
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