I read about Halotestin and Methyltestosterone giving strength and aggression and works well as a pre-workout steroid. Not sure about mixing all these products with my other gear (HGH Kigtropin, Test Enanthate, Anavar). Should I just take a 50mg Anavar as my pre-workout steroid? I know this gear gives strength but not sure about aggression.
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Keep it SIMPLE. You are not a powerlifter or MMA fighter so you don't need Halotestin or Methyltestosterone. You don't mix those together either, unless you enjoy pissing rust and shitting bile as your liver shuts down. The Anavar is for the last few weeks of your cycle to harden up your gains. You are on Kigs and Test, you don't need anything else.
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d bol is my fav pre workout steroid
Ok. I read a different cycle that includes Anavar being taken 8 weeks on cycle (out of 10 weeks), then stop taking it the last 2 weeks. Should I reverse it or what? While on Test Enanthate and HGH Kigtropin, no Anavar for the first 8 weeks, take it the last 2 weeks? 50mg (or 100mg) a day for 2 weeks, is it good enough? So the last 2 weeks of my 10 week cycle I would be on HGH Kigtropin, Test Enanthate, and Anavar, the first 8 weeks just HGH Kigtropin and Test Enanthate.
I'm considering a shorter cycle, either 5 or 8 weeks since this will be my first cycle. 5 weeks will accommodate me per vial (since there's 250mg/10 ml per vial), 500mg a week.
Should I just completely avoid Anavar while on HGH Kigtropin and Test Enanthat cycle, then perhaps use Anavar as my sole off cycle gear? It's only for hardening effect and cutting after all.
Another thing, since HGH is supposed to be a 6 month cycle (I'm already on my second month), I will try to "segway" Test Enanthate along with it on the last 10 weeks of my HGH cycle. Good idea? This is due to PCT, i'd have to be off everything other than the PCT drugs (Clomid or Tamoxifen).
I'm still thinking of either a 5, 8 or a 10 week cycle of Testosterone.
I'm considering a shorter cycle, either 5 or 8 weeks since this will be my first cycle. 5 weeks will accommodate me per vial (since there's 250mg/10 ml per vial), 500mg a week.
Should I just completely avoid Anavar while on HGH Kigtropin and Test Enanthat cycle, then perhaps use Anavar as my sole off cycle gear? It's only for hardening effect and cutting after all.
Another thing, since HGH is supposed to be a 6 month cycle (I'm already on my second month), I will try to "segway" Test Enanthate along with it on the last 10 weeks of my HGH cycle. Good idea? This is due to PCT, i'd have to be off everything other than the PCT drugs (Clomid or Tamoxifen).
I'm still thinking of either a 5, 8 or a 10 week cycle of Testosterone.
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is this your first cycle???????
test enanthate barely kicks in until week 4 or 5 anyway...you need to do 2 vials to make it worthwhile. personally i had great results with just test 500 mg for 10 weeks, and i was starving and poor for several of the weeks. its a strong compound
shulginsmyhero
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fuck bro
first cycle and your using growth?
you should of just went with a straight forward test cycle for your first one 500mgs a week,maybe kickstart it with dbol
fuck using anything else
plenty of time for that,you prob would put on 20lbs of muscle if you eat right
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You should take the Anavar the last 2 weeks of the cycle at 100mg a day. You should be aiming at a 10 week cycle, any less is a waste of time and money. Do it right or don't do it at all. If you want to run the Anavar run it, if you don't, then don't. You said it was free so you might as well take it.
Anavar is not off cycle gear. You are either on cycle or off. No Anavar only, no oral only. Segway Test E? I don't know what that means but whatever it does fuck that shit. Do a 10 week cycle and then the PCT, and take off 10 weeks. Then run another 10 week cycle and then the PCT and take off 10 weeks.
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I feel the same way. I'm sorry to say but he is going to be looking at minor gains due to not having a foundation for HGH use and no experience at all with anabolic compounds...
hey I was just asking. I am getting 2 vials of Test Enanthate. Just thought a 5 week cycle would be ok, but you all said go for 10 weeks. I've been reading about IGF-1, I read that it would be a good addition to both HGH and Testosterone. This is new to me. What's your take on this? What's the point of adding it when Testosterone is already androgenic/anabolic and HGH is like my base. I read that both injectable and oral is recommended. Testosterone and HGH are my injectables, I guess Anavar would be my oral? IGF-1 is another injectable isn't it? Should I pass on it? I don't see much of it being included in people's cycles. I guess it's a bit much price-wise? If I do use IGF-1, I might be skipping the Anavar but I already have it free so it will be stored in my cabinet until I find a reason what to use it for, perhaps for the next cycle.
How much amount of IGF-1 would I need for a 10 week cycle? I'm looking at an IGF1-LR3 (not sure what the difference in wording is), per vial it has 10mcg, would 1mcg per week be good enough for the 10 week cycle?
I'm looking into HCG as well, per vial it has 5000IU, I'm guessing 1 vial is good enough for the 10 week cycle. 500IU weekly?
How much amount of IGF-1 would I need for a 10 week cycle? I'm looking at an IGF1-LR3 (not sure what the difference in wording is), per vial it has 10mcg, would 1mcg per week be good enough for the 10 week cycle?
I'm looking into HCG as well, per vial it has 5000IU, I'm guessing 1 vial is good enough for the 10 week cycle. 500IU weekly?
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I read both injectable and oral is recommended. HGH and Test are my injectables. Anavar could be my oral. What I meant by when I "segway" Test Enanthate is since I'm already using HGH for the last 2 months, I'll "segway" or add Testosterone along with it during the last 10 weeks of my (6 month) HGH cycle.
yeah but I never meant to get on AAS until I read more about it as I was already using my HGH. I thought it was all I needed. Turns out HGH is mostly for cellular, but a little bit anabolic (correct me if I'm wrong about the cellular part). The instructions on my HGH recommended Testosterone so here I am.
don't you need to eat right and big to gain something while on Test, why were you starving? Good thing I work part time at a pizza place. I eat there for free 6 days a week. LOL. I'm looking into meal replacement protein powders as an alternative or quick fix in case I don't have time to prepare a meal after workout though. What do you think of those GNC Weight Gainers? Those are like 2500 calories per 4 scoops.
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You are new to using hormones. I would not advise fucking with IGF until you are more knowledgeable and experienced. If you use IGF wrong or dose it wrong you could end up in a diabetic coma. You need a proper foundation to use compounds like IGF. That also means you are lucky we are giving you advise on your cycle. HGH is NEVER supposed to be for a first timer.
Don't even bother using HCG, there is no need. You are only running a 10 week cycle.
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You can eat lean on Test and replace fat with with muscle while gaining a steady amount of muscle through workouts, you can eat at a deficit to burn fat and keep muscle, or you can eat big and put on a lot of muscle with a small amount of fat.
The food at a pizza place is not going to sustain you while on steroids. You need to do some shopping and get some real food. GNC weight gainers are shit. If you need weight gainer you need to reevaluate what you are doing diet and training wise. A protien shake in the morning and one in the evening/nigh is a good thing. You need tilapia, nuts, eggs, fruit, veggies, chicken, tuna, etc...
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pizza joint
shit bro
can you post your diet up so we can critique it
and no bs
what your really eating daily
i know your new,i made the same mistakes,so dont take it personally
we want to help you bro
I never got some people's use of HCG along with Aromasin, when Arimidex is just as functional as those 2 regarding hypogonadism and gynecomastia. I guess these people have been in the game too long, not a first timer. Anyway, main reason why I started with HGH first was that it's supposed to be safer than AAS use, plus my main intent of using it was for health and wellness reasons and didn't imagine I'd be adding Testosterone with it (the HGH Kigtropin instruction recommended it so I'm going by that). I was going to use HGH by itself with nothing else, but at 5 IUs daily, I feel nothing. Everyone I know online have said I need to add Test with it, can't run it by itself if I want real results.
I do eat the things you listed. I have a stack of canned tunas. I don't eat BIG to get that FULL feeling (I heard this stretches your gut and make you hungrier sooner, so you eat more sooner and get fatter and fatter til it becomes a cycle into obesity).
From what I learned in the past, every meal should consist of 100 grams of quality carbohydrates and 50 grams of protein. I stuck by that rule, but now lesser carbs since it's not all that needed and I'm on a steady weight class so far. Should I change this up a bit?
From what I learned in the past, every meal should consist of 100 grams of quality carbohydrates and 50 grams of protein. I stuck by that rule, but now lesser carbs since it's not all that needed and I'm on a steady weight class so far. Should I change this up a bit?
yeah, just was unemployed and moving around for awhile, couldn't be helped. out of 10 weeks i was only on point with my diet maybe 7 of them due to unpreventable circumstances. deadlift was at 405 before the cycle, ended with 450. squat was at 315 max, afterwards i could rep that for 5 and maxed out at 365. test is fucking powerful