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Opioids Intranasal HERION and OXYCODONE

Pill__Head

Pill__Head

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Greetings all,

I have a lot of experience using various opiate/opioids. Oxycodone is my preference and usual go to. Average dosing to get " a good high" is as follows: Oral 120mg, smoke/vaped 75 - 90 ( I dont smoke oxy much anymore, always would make me sick the next AM), insufflation ~90mg. So as you can see, I do have somewhat of a tolerance; but in these past could ( 6-8 weeks ) my opiate use has been lessened quite a bit :(. This was due to me failing out of college and having to move, loosing most all my "connects" if ya' know what I mean.

Anyways, short story long, I just received some #4 H. Never before have I used H. I currently have done (2) ~75mg lines, about 1 hour apart from each other. This didnt nearly get me to where 120mg oral Oxy does, which is the perfect amount for me. I want to increase my dose.

But I am a little scared about using too much H, as I said previously I am a nooby in the world of H. I am basically looking for what sort of dosage should I not exceed? Because the 150mg didnt get me where I want to be.

I know it is hard to say exactly for sure for many reasons such as unknown purity of the gear, ect.

I am trying to stay safe here, friends. I do not want to OD, there for I am seeking advise for the sake of my health.

FYI im 5'11" 235lbs.

Thank you all,
 
don't want to sound like your mom but maybe you should consider using less.
it will keep tolerance down, and allow you to perform better on a professional level.

maybe quit for a few weeks,
and two time per week take a low dose of opiate...
two time per week take a low dose of benzo (with short half life, so u don't unknowingly end up being under the influence everyday of the week)...

leave as much time in between as possible
 
Dropping 40 pounds would help your health and probably allow you to use a little less and realize the same result.
 
With a tolerance like yours, 150mg's of H should have rocked you. It sounds like you got bunk dope.

You can keep doing little bumps, then wait 30 mins or so each time to see how if affects you, but it doesn't sound like you got even decent stuff.
 
^Yeah, it sounds like weak heroin you got...There's a lot weak stuff out there, just carefully increase your dose until it gets you where you want ...Could be completely fake as well...With the tolerance you describe, 50-100 mgs should have you high as a kite for hours...The difference between weak and even "regular strength" heroin is like night and day....it's like two different drugs...That's why, whenever a pill user posts something like, "Tried heroin for the first time, don't see what the big deal is..", I know there's a good chance they got garbage...

IME, even someone with a 200-300 mg oxy tolerance will require just a little heroin...I've been surprised a few times, giving someone what I consider a little tester line and having them end up puking and nodding out...

Either way, be careful with the remaining stuff...
 
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^^

People way underestimate just how strong even decent heroin is. It is much stronger than oxy. A lot of people used to snorting OC and shit, look at this tiny amount of powder with H and are like, "how can this be enough?".. then they do more because they are used to doing so much powder with pharms, that they end up puking all night long.
 
@stealyourface
I have been weight training for decades...I am 11% bodyfat, I'm not "overweight" by any means. Thank-you for your concern though :)
 
To everyone else - Thank you for the replies.

As I previously stated today was my first time with H. Therefore I am not one to judge whether or not my gear is bunk; but I agree with you all, it must be bunk gear. Oh well.

How does a 200mg dose ( insufflation ) sound? It seems to me that may be just about right.

At this point I might as well resort to IV, just for econimical reasons. What sort of dose should I start with here? 100mg? less/more?

I appreciate all your responses!
 
^Well, I wouldn't resort to IV, I hope you're not serious about that...The weaker the gear, the more likely it contains insoluble cuts, which is not something you want to deal with, especially without experience...

Obviously, if 75mgs did absolutely nothing for you, you may want to use more...Are you in the UK? If so, that may explain it...a lot of the dope there is weak, and #3 heroin doesn't work all that great for insufflation...
 
@BlueHues

Yes I am serious about IV, as I have experience with injections ( just not H ). I also have micron filters that I would of course use before I inject any substance into my body.

75mg did not do "adsolutely nothing" for me. I felt it absolutely, don't get me wrong there. It was just a little buzz, at best. Nothing to write home about.

I am an US resident, and don't have #3, I have #4 brown.
 
I snort more its gone quicker.....

and Mr.Scagnattie, unfortunately, I live a BS life. I agree my justification is nothing but bullshit.

would 100mg mainlined be a safe dose to start at ?
 
^Nobody can answer that with complete certainty....Start at 20 mgs and go from there, but it's not even worth it...with really weak dope, you won't even get the rush most likely, plus you already have some in your system...Potentiating the BA of .6 grams or whatever you have by IVing it isn't worth the trouble...
 
@Bluehues

20mg ? if it was DANK gear i doubt i would even feel that.. 20mg just doesn't seem like much at all.

What do you guys dose your gear at? Im curious what an 'average' IV dose is... I know, I know there are a million different variables, but you guys must be able to give me a sort of estimation of an average dose?
 
If I hadn't been using and I was doing it again after a long break? Maybe 150-200 mgs...but I've been doing heroin for 17 years, and I'd be with one of my friends who already had the exact same stuff...

Realistically, yeah...maybe even 200 mgs won't do anything, but you should always start low, because 100 mgs of good heroin will kill or bring to near death a lot of opiate naive people...

How much of this stuff do you have left? I'd just snort the rest of it...Even shooting it won't get you high if it sucks...Heroin is a potent drug, but you can only cut it so much..

Edit: An average dose is completely different depending on where you are, who you are, how big your tolerance is...

A bag in NYC might be twice the size of a bag a half hour away in New Jersey, and even then...there's people in NYC that do fifty bags, and there's people that do five bags...Some people's average shot is .5-.8 grams...it all depends..

If I had to put an average number for someone's very first time, I'd say "50 mgs", but even that could be too much depending on the circumstances..

Truthfully, once you do a test shot, you'll have a better idea of how to proceed, but I'm not gonna tell some guy online, "Oh yeah, it sucks? Just do it all in one shot!"...
 
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I have a MG scale that is pretty accurate ( atleast, i think it is). So I have easily been able to measure out any desired dose.

I originally got .5g (500mg). I snorted two 75mg lines , and then about 15 hours later (now) I took down a 90mg line and i am feeling GREAT. Although, the approx. 7mg of Alprazolam taken prior to the smack might be apart of the reason as to why I am in such a beautiful world right now :D. Not to mention the DANK cannabis, which is of course a 24/7/365 commodity for me.

So I should have about 260mg left for tomorrow. IDK where my gear is from, not from my local area. I was told it is #4 Afghan heroin. It is a white powder with a slight tent of yellow/brown color.

I'm thinking try 100mg, then gauge from there for my next dose?

This is all I can type for as Im struggling to keep open my eyes. Time for sleep.

Thanks again for the reply.
 
BlueHues said:
If I hadn't been using and I was doing it again after a long break? Maybe 150-200 mgs...but I've been doing heroin for 17 years, and I'd be with one of my friends who already had the exact same stuff...

Realistically, yeah...maybe even 200 mgs won't do anything, but you should always start low, because 100 mgs of good heroin will kill or bring to near death a lot of opiate naive people...

How much of this stuff do you have left? I'd just snort the rest of it...Even shooting it won't get you high if it sucks...Heroin is a potent drug, but you can only cut it so much..

Edit: An average dose is completely different depending on where you are, who you are, how big your tolerance is...

A bag in NYC might be twice the size of a bag a half hour away in New Jersey, and even then...there's people in NYC that do fifty bags, and there's people that do five bags...Some people's average shot is .5-.8 grams...it all depends..

If I had to put an average number for someone's very first time, I'd say "50 mgs", but even that could be too much depending on the circumstances..

Truthfully, once you do a test shot, you'll have a better idea of how to proceed, but I'm not gonna tell some guy online, "Oh yeah, it sucks? Just do it all in one shot!"...
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This. First time doses should not be higher than 50mg's, and like he said, even that of good dope to an opiate naive person could be too much.

As far as what our average doses are.. telling you my average dose isn't going to be helpful to you because I've been using for a very long time and have a large habit.. so it doesn't matter. You wouldn't do anything even fractionally close to that.

Also, like Hues said.. it also depends on the location you're getting your H, as the consistency and packaging is different.

That's why test doses are always important.. to gauge the potency of your dope. Everyone has to know where their personal tolerance is, and if they don't, they start incredibly low and build up until they figure it out.
 
I agree with Blue 100%...there is absolutely no way of telling how much heroin to do because the potency vaires so so very widely. This along with peoples different tolerance means that a suggested dose of one batch would do absolutely nothing for someone but that same dose of a different batch could definitely kill someone. Also, i think the point was made that if it is really cut then that just makes it that much worse to IV..
 
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