Heroin Intranasal Black Tar, Have a Few Questions...

[fuckedupawshiyt]

Hey people of bluelight! Long time lurker, first time poster.

I have a few questions about snorting black tar (by method of dissolving in water and dripping into the nose). Normally i just smoke it, but im taking a trip to the beach and its going to be a pain in the ass to smoke it inconspicuously, so i was considering water-lining.

For those of you that have done this before:

• How long is the comeup? (or how long should i wait to redose if im not feeling it)
• How long does the high last?
• And lastly, what should i use as my starting dose?

To give you an idea of my tolerance, i need around 60mg of hydrocodone to feel a decent buzz. When i chase the dragon, i use around a match head size piece, or 6-7 hits to feel good. So should i only use around half of that when i use intranasally? Or the same amount?

I just dont want to overdo it or anything. Thanks in advance guys



Also, before im told to UTFSE, I have, and i wouldnt have posted if I didnt. There are plenty of threads on snorting tar but i could not find any info on comeup, duration, or dosage

 

[Sweet Jones]

I normally feel it almost immediately - I mean within 2 minutes. It's very quick. That isn't the peak of the high but I am undeniably feeling it at that point. The peak might be after about around 20-30 mins. The high lasts a few hours, and dunno what you should use as your starting dose it depends on your gear obviously. I normally go 50-60mg

 

[fuckedupawshiyt]

Thanks for the reply, that definitely helps.

May i what your dose is when you smoke it? Or what your dose is when you take hydrocodone or oxy? It might help me gauge a little better

also i have no idea what 50mg of tar looks like

 

[LSDMDMA&AMP]

I know powder heroin comes on snorted after like 3-5 min, no rush, lasting 3-5 hpurs off of one full dose start to finish, with the effect starting to wear off 2 hours after snorting and being back to normal after 3-5 hours. redose after 15 minutes of the initial dose if unsatisfied with the high. Id use what you smoke as the amount to start with snorting but ive never used tar, only powder and ive never smoked heroin. I know with powder snorting is about half the potency of iv, maybe a little less. Waterlining is probably wasteful and difficult though. Ive heard you can snort tar by mixing it in a pillbottle with a coin and powdered milk or dph or something by shaking tje bottle up until you have a powder aka gunpowder which can be snorted like any other powder. Id imagime the cuts would clog up your nose if you waterlined tar and most of it would drip down your throat and not be absorbed.
im sure there is a way to smoke tar inconspicuously/quickly...
Maybe rigging up an ecig or something?
I know powder heroin is terrible for your nose let alone waterlining tar...
this is why powder isbthe way heroin should be..powder is cleaner, easier to use, less bad for you, cut with less nasty shit, and id assume tar has way more varying effect than powder..
Id just smoke it, unless you shoot. id assume skinpopping tar is not a good idea or id suggest that.
Plug it maybe? Ive never plugged anything but maybe thats the way to go for you.
btw isnt like a quarter gram the minimum amount tar is generally sols in? Id think youd wanna do half of a dime of tar or do .1g or something. I know for most powder a bag is like 50-90mg and half a bag is how much a nontolerant inexperienced user should start with, snorting, and you have a tolerance and are using tar which i think is less potent by weight than powder so...
Id guess that the plant matter/whatever else is in tar would severely inhibit absorbtion by your nose. I know snorting a good amount of powder leaves behind cut in your nose that solidifies like boogers after a while...and it irritates your nose when you sniff even small amounts repeatedly (like a half bundle a day).

 

[Sweet Jones]

My usual dose of oxy is around 50mg
You really should get scales
50mg tar is a tiny amount, a small single drop of water in a teaspoon will be more than enough for it

 

[fuckedupawshiyyt]

Had to make a new acc because I forgot my password and used a temporary email

Anyway. It wouldnt be that hard to hide at the beach normally, but i happen to be going with a couple people that arent cool with H, and id prefer not to freak them out too much lol. I figured that snorting would be pretty discrete. Just pop in the bathroom and drip it in. Id be down for powder but i live on the west coast so its pretty much non existant here..

Id also be down for plugging but have no idea about the dosage there either. Or the duration or comeup. Also i dont IV. Not sure what a point looks like, i buy from a close friend so i usually pick up a $40 which is enough for like 2 nights high for me. never really had to know what weights look like or anything. Ill do some more research on the gunpowder thing, sounds interesting. thanks

as for dosage, im thinking of doing half the amount i usually smoke

 

[TwisteTexan]

I call it monkey water.
I don't use needles either.

You are correct in cutting back the amount from what you smoke, it is going to have a better bioavailability.

Percentage wise, I don't quite know.

For the sake of harm reduction I would take it easy at first. You can still overdose by snorting the shit, and its not too easy to measure out the sticky ass tar anyways.

I might try and rig up a nasal spray bottle.
Depending on how much water you mix in it will determine the strength of each sniff. So start slow. Maybe take 20 minutes and see where it takes you.

Now, the nasal spray would be a little more stealthy, but I usually use a bottle cap and an oral syringe

I put my matchhead in there, 6 or so drops of water out the syringe stir it around, pull it back up in there put the tip of the ORAL syringe in my nose and squirt and sniff at same time.

Took some practice, but It is hard to snort liquid through a straw.

Your not using much water at all, and like I said, pace yourself.
You don't wanna be that guy.

 

[dman1208]

need Opinions....Regardless the size of the line of heroin, my cat always gets a runny nose after he does line. If he sniffs mucus back up nose he ends up getting drip way to fast and doesnt have ample time for heroin to sit in nasal cavity. But if he wipes mucus with hand or tissue he feels like hes wiping heroin away. So should he sniff it softly back up or wipe gently because mucus leaking out doesnt have heroin in it? Yes hes experienced and yes does small lines...he just wants some opions and maybe experiences with same issue. Thanks

 

[Lorne???]

A good dose hits almost immediately, though it takes 7.5-15 minutes to feel the full effects.

Make sure to gently hold your nostrils and tilt you're head back.

You might find intranasal is more potent. Honestly, either you're tar is weak, or your smoking technique is inefficent(likely both) as it absolutely should NOT take 7-8 hits to equal 60mg if hydrocodone, Jesus, I can do half a point and it's way stronger than that. (Good dope, though.)

 

[Lorne???]

need Opinions....Regardless the size of the line of heroin, my cat always gets a runny nose after he does line. If he sniffs mucus back up nose he ends up getting drip way to fast and doesnt have ample time for heroin to sit in nasal cavity. But if he wipes mucus with hand or tissue he feels like hes wiping heroin away. So should he sniff it softly back up or wipe gently because mucus leaking out doesnt have heroin in it? Yes hes experienced and yes does small lines...he just wants some opions and maybe experiences with same issue. Thanks

If you're cat is doing heroin, you deserve to be charged with animal cruelty.

Seriously, don't be a cunt, we all know it's you, and that kind of useless "SWIM/my cat/ transvestite roommate" bullshit is not allowed on this forum.

(And diamorphine doesn't need to sit in the nasal cavity, it is absorbed extremely rapidly; however if it's low potency powder, nasal simply won't be as efficient. And contrary to popular belief, oral heroin has a good a decent BA at high doses)