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INTERESTING: Weird injection!

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Morphoid

Morphoid

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Firstly, for harm reduction sake - I'm GP in the UK so have a medical degree and post grad consultancies - so I know what I am doing with a syringe etc. If you are not trained or well instructed, you should never EVER attempt IV drug use. It's VERY dangerous.

OK, I'll keep it short and sweet because I am about to go to bed.


  • I prepare 1ml syringe with 50 units of fluid from a drug ampoule (the drug will be unnamed, all I can say is the if it misses and ends up anywhere but your veins it BURNS LIKE HELLFIRE! And I am deadly serious. You'll see why this is relevant in a moment)
  • I prepare the injection site (antecubital fossa) to sanitise it.
  • I insert the 30g needle into the site and bang, I register. At first I thought the blood looked to light and that I may have hit an artery, which I did once before with the same substance an after pushing just 3 units I abandoned obvously! But considering there was no abnormal pressure, I proceeded.
  • But then, I examined it more closely and pulled back to register a bit more (not good technique but I was desperate) and the blood looked dark red.
  • So tentatively I depressed the first 20 units - nothing. No pain or discomfort or anything. So I assumed I was in the vein and pushed the whole lot in.

    But not things got odd.
  • I feel nothing. I normally get an intense rush and the high descends, but this time - nothing, not a drop. And it was a considerable dose too, So what happened?

But please note!

  • It wasn't a miss because there was no pain, discomfort, numbing or swelling at the injection site, nor in fact was any part of me.
  • Not tolerance, administered yesterday in a different site and it was perfect.
  • Surely if I had hit an artery with a substance that burns like fuck even if just 1 unit is missed, I would have been in agony as it travelled down me arm?!

Finally, very very mild high from the shot, so some of it got to my CNS, but what happened overall?! I am greatly looking forward to receiving Bluelight's collective genius.

Kind regards guys, and Happy Christmas if it is't too soon.
 
Did you get proper sleep between the days you dosed? Also, if some of the drug was still in your system from the day before then it could have diminished the high.
 
Honestly it does sound like a possible miss to me. I have had missed shots when I know they were missed shots (because I was such a desperate junkie at the time and having such trouble hitting that I didn't care that it didn't seem like it was properly in a vein - NOT recommended and not something I would ever do now that I know better), using drugs that normally hurt or swelled when missed, but no pain or swelling, I think perhaps because it was a deeper injection and went into the muscle instead of just under the skin or something. This was usually preceded by abnormal registering (something different with blood colour/flow/amount) and when I injected part of the shot and then tried to register again no blood entered the syringe. Was your vein possibly damaged from previous use?

Other possibilities are:

- Like Tommyboy said, factors could have just diminished the rush/high, like dosing too soon after your last dose (it's hard to know considering you didn't say what drug it was), sleep, mood, any other drugs you may have taken (or possibly foods/drinks that interact with the drug?) etc.

- Are you certain this drug was the same potency as usual, like was it from the same batch you had previously used?

- I have heard a few people on here claim that it's possible to inject into an artery with no pain at all, but not sure if I believe that...? (For me when that happened just a couple units was excruciating)
 
Thanks for the response guys.

Firstly, no it wasn't anything to do with the drug being in my system diminishing the high. I hadn't used this specific substance for a while. And secondly, it was an ampoule of pharmaceutical grade substance - not street bought. And I've checked this morning, and the injection site shows absolutely no evidence of a miss, nor did it last night. It has all the hallmarks of a perfect shot, just without the high. Strange.
 
When I am on very little sleep I can't get high. If I take stimulants I just get loopy from my body being forced to stay awake when my mind is ready to shut down. If I take opiates I just get more tired, and I don't feel any euphoria.
 
what im more concerned about is the fact that a GP (are you still practicing) is using pharma grade heroin to inject himself with for fun?

i dunno from a HR point of view (isnt that what we do here?) this is crazy
 
synthetix said:
what im more concerned about is the fact that a GP (are you still practicing) is using pharma grade heroin to inject himself with for fun?

i dunno from a HR point of view (isnt that what we do here?) this is crazy
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Health care practitioners are only human and no less susceptible to the temptations of drug use than anyone else. People shouldn't have to hide the fact that they have medical training/jobs for fear of judgement. Also no one said it was heroin, the OP didn't say what drug it was.

Morphoid - the only possibility you didn't respond to was sleep deprivation - have you been sleeping properly? (or the other possibilities I mentioned of interactions, or even potentially an artery shot that didn't hurt, but like I said, I'm skeptical that that is even possible).
 
synthetix said:
Well yeah I accept that, but I wouldn't want to be treated by a dopd up gp with unsound mind (although I probably am)
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Those are kind of assumptions that any Dr who uses drugs is going to be under the influence at work and must have an "unsound mind". We also don't even know what drug the OP was using. I swear my pharmacist was high the other day and he seemed extra nice and was actually being extra good at his job ironically.
 
OK, to all those attacking my drug use as a doctor.

Firstly, I NEVER specified the drug I was using (one poster assumed it was heroin, incorrectly).
Secondly, I NEVER specified whether or not the drug was psychoactive. It might have been metoclopramide for all you know :) Just saying.
Thirdly, I agree that using any psychoactives whilst practising medicine is at the least immoral and at the most cause for losing my license. I know this, and it causes me deep shame. But I never practise medicine whilst under the influence. I'm only human, and as liable to the trials and tribulations drugs cause everyone else. I'm sorry if it offends anyone, truly I am, but those are the facts.

Anyway, back to the matter in hand. Mr.Scagnattie - It is a headscratcher! Since the incident I have had no ill effects of any sort. There is no residual lump, rash, pain, heat or indication of a miss as there usually would be. There was no evidence of circulation disruption, as one would expect if I had hit an artery. So I really have no bloody clue as to what it was!

If anyone could provide an answer aside from "it was a miss" I'd be really interested. Thanks for all the responses sirs and madams, very much appreciated.
 
PillToChill said:
You kind of did:


:p
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Oh fine, if it really means that much to you, bless your little heart, I shall explain. However, the term 'high' could and is commonly used synonymously with "therapeutic effect" or "desired state" - just to put everything and the speculation to rest, I was injecting 300µg of Buprenorphine Hydrochloride. I suffer from cluster headaches and after a list of hundreds of failed treatments, discovered that bupe was a highly effective treatment. I was having an attack, like one of many hundreds I've had in the past, and this is when the oddity occurred. No relief from the pain, no lovely little high from the bupe. Not a tolerance issue because I don't take it regularly and have administered the same dose again since making that original post and got the desired effect.

If you'd would like to know what colour socks I was wearing whilst this all went on, please don't hesitate to ask.
 
Okay well I'm glad you cleared it up and hope you're being honest. It's just a little disheartening to hear of a doctor injecting substances into himself for what appeared like recreational use. Of course we're not here to judge, but I think there is a line when it comes down to it.

I hope the treatment is helpful. And again apologies for seeming offensive.
 
Morphoid said:
If anyone could provide an answer aside from "it was a miss" I'd be really interested. Thanks for all the responses sirs and madams, very much appreciated.
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Well you didn't respond to some of the other possible suggestions people including myself have made, such as:
Swimmingdancer said:
sleep, mood, any other drugs you may have taken (or possibly foods/drinks that interact with the drug?) etc.
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Again, have you been sleeping properly? Used any other drugs recently?

Another idea is if you were in more pain than usual could that perhaps have decreased the perception of a rush/high?
 
synthetix said:
Okay well I'm glad you cleared it up and hope you're being honest. It's just a little disheartening to hear of a doctor injecting substances into himself for what appeared like recreational use. Of course we're not here to judge, but I think there is a line when it comes down to it.

I hope the treatment is helpful. And again apologies for seeming offensive.
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Why isn that disheartening? If dude wants to have fun more power to him.
 
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