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Interesting Spice Gold Observation

This high from this stuff is so close to cannabis that it's hard for me to believe that it does not contain some synthetic cannabinoid.
 
I've tried sculletaria nana a.k.a skullcap from one of those legal high shops many years ago..

I remember smoking a significant amount with no noticeable effects, maybe i was just disappointed because i expected something like weed?...

I know of a place that sells this Spice Gold shit and i wouldn't pass up trying it but at those prices seems like a rip off, i prefer to stick to weed.

As someone allready mentioned, could be GOLD for someone without access to proper cannabis....
 
Listed Ingredients:
Baybean, Blue Lotus, Lion's Tail, Lousewort, Indian Warrior, Dwarf Scullcap, Maconha Brava, Pink Lotus, Marshmallow, Red Clover, Rose, Siberian Motherwort, Vanilla and Honey

but after looking at the picks it does look to be only a single herb though it is possible that the majority of the herbs listed are in extract and have added to the final product. that could also explain the high cost.
 
I have sent a request for the 400mg sample pack so perhaps I will be able to try it. I am not willing to spend the money they are asking for it.
 
Aeon Psyche said:
Shut up klowns. There's got to be a reason why you don't want us to find out what's in it. What's your investment in this?

I've tried skullcap and it wasn't worth shit. Also it doesn't look like anything that is in spice gold. Spice gold doesn't look like a blend of herbs. It doesn't feel like a blend of herbs. It is to potent to be a blend of herbs. It simply isn't a blend of herbs. It's just mugwort and some cannabinoid. And some shit that covers it up so the tests doesn't find it. None of the herbs claimed to be in there have been found. Also, how do they make two different types with different potency? Spice and spice gold. With cannabinoids this would be rather easy huh. I've tried several herbals and they all aren't worth shit. Even combining them is never going to give a result that looks like and is as potent as spice gold. Nor feel like.

To me, there's only one quesion left: What cannabinoid is it?

if is an extract of the herbs that has been added to a final herb it would be quite easy to increase the potency of the extraction.
 
wouldn't it be cheaper to order a synthetic cannabinoid straight up, than to buy spice? with the prices i'm seeing at least...
 
There were tests run on spice gold and chill by a member of e-dot and the results were unconclusive since the testing method used (gc/ms) was looking for alkaloids, not terpines. Let me find the link quick...

http://www.entheogen.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12943

On a side note, I tried spice gold and found it quite like weed, but decided not to use any more until the active constituents are publicised...
 
Jesus Chirst just go buy some fucking weed.

And who is this Indian Warrior guy? What city are you guysin? Should I address him as Indian Warrior when I meet him or should I be more politically correct and be like, "Native Amercian Indigenous Indian Warrior."
 
what the fuck im still laughin my ass off over this. CANNABINOIDS ARE FUCKING ILLEGAL SIMPLE AS THAT at least under the analaoug act if nothing else.
also mad dog desert skullcap HAS BEEN REPORTED TO FEEL AS POTENT AND GOOD AS KIND BUDS. im telling you it has to be the high grade skullcap, this shit is not fucking cannabinas, and for christs sakes for the cost jsut buy yourself some real dank i guarentee it will taste and smell better, get you higher, and look WAY prettier. id rather have buds than some stupid legal herbal mix of leaves and shit ANY day of the fuckign week. jesus but whatever floats your boat i guess!
peace
 
sonnyluv said:
Jesus Chirst just go buy some fucking weed.

And who is this Indian Warrior guy? What city are you guysin? Should I address him as Indian Warrior when I meet him or should I be more politically correct and be like, "Native Amercian Indigenous Indian Warrior."






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suspected indian warrior?
 
klowns said:
what the fuck im still laughin my ass off over this. CANNABINOIDS ARE FUCKING ILLEGAL SIMPLE AS THAT at least under the analaoug act if nothing else.
also mad dog desert skullcap HAS BEEN REPORTED TO FEEL AS POTENT AND GOOD AS KIND BUDS. im telling you it has to be the high grade skullcap, this shit is not fucking cannabinas, and for christs sakes for the cost jsut buy yourself some real dank i guarentee it will taste and smell better, get you higher, and look WAY prettier. id rather have buds than some stupid legal herbal mix of leaves and shit ANY day of the fuckign week. jesus but whatever floats your boat i guess!
peace


"mad dog desert skullcap" is not remotely like bud. Not even remotely. The only thing it claims to contain that could feel like weed is baybean, and this is nothing like baybean.

Cannabinoids are not illegal. Some of them are, but that's a very broad statement. Cannabinoids represent a very wide, diverse class of chemicals, many of them completely unrelated to any of the natural ones.

I think the most likely additive would be an AAI, an aminoalkylindole. They represent a group of cannabinoids unrelated to any natural, scheduled cannabinoids.

There are no scheduled cannabinoids similar to the AAIs. In fact, only parahexyl, nabilone and dronabinol are the only explicitly listed cannabinoids I can find. They're all very similar.
 
This is the first I am reading about "spice gold" and all I got to say is, Really? Seriously? Just can't believe it.

Anyone want to PM me and tell me more about this herbal mixture?
 
klowns said:
what the fuck im still laughin my ass off over this. CANNABINOIDS ARE FUCKING ILLEGAL SIMPLE AS THAT at least under the analaoug act if nothing else.
also mad dog desert skullcap HAS BEEN REPORTED TO FEEL AS POTENT AND GOOD AS KIND BUDS. im telling you it has to be the high grade skullcap, this shit is not fucking cannabinas, and for christs sakes for the cost jsut buy yourself some real dank i guarentee it will taste and smell better, get you higher, and look WAY prettier. id rather have buds than some stupid legal herbal mix of leaves and shit ANY day of the fuckign week. jesus but whatever floats your boat i guess!
peace
Who said all Cannabinoids have to be THC analogues?
 
Hope you manage to separate the active Chems. Hammy.
I guess trial and error is gunna be a close mate after this =D

Happy trails ;)
 
morninggloryseed said:
This is the first I am reading about "spice gold" and all I got to say is, Really? Seriously? Just can't believe it.

Anyone want to PM me and tell me more about this herbal mixture?

I couldn't believe it either, but it works. It took a little longer to take effect than one might ordinarily expect from its illegal cousin. I waited for 5-10 minutes, gave it up as just another ineffective herbal, and started to do something else. However, about 15 minutes after that it hit me pretty hard & I was a little concerned until I recalled what I had done a couple of minutes later. Then I pretty much just sat back & enjoyed it.

I don't think I'll make a habit out of it (I'm not a huge fan of the green anyway), but it was definitely enjoyable, and I will try it again.
 
DemonXstreeM said:
I have sent a request for the 400mg sample pack so perhaps I will be able to try it. I am not willing to spend the money they are asking for it.


they never returned my contact. guess no free sample then... O well
 
just wanted to throw something out there. first off, let me say i dont know where i stand regarding whether this blend and those like it contain some cannabanoid, a blend of herbal extracts, or some other random research chem. i too, used to believe that it MUST contain some cannabanoid as the effects are soooo similar, and also due to the fact that ive used almost all of the enthnobotanicals listed in the ingredients and none even come close to the effects of spice. however, i changed my tune a bit after reading reports of tests done which showed no evidence of any cannabanoid. also, one of these tests was performed by someone who MANY consider one of the leading authorities in the ethnobotanical world. this of course, had me convinced there were no cannabanoids present. however, i am now reading from people i respect very much here (hammilton to name one), that these tests were not conclusive and do not prove anything. so, not sure where i fall now.
however one thing i wanted to add regarding the whole "its mugwort and only mugwort" comments. i totally agree that the SOLID leafy material is mugwort. however it was always my impression that if spice is a blend of ethnos, it was a blend of VERY concentrated extract (thats the only way it would even be POSSIBLE to get such strong effects). with that said, my guess would be that mugwort is used as a base/carrier. and the other extracts could simply be sprayed on. that would account for us not seeing chunks of blue lotus and others in there. anyone else agree?

ps- i just had my first success getting loperamide to cross the BBB. i just sat it down and asked nicely. in the end its just a very misunderstood alkaloid that only requires a little respect and a kind word or two.
 
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