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Interesting Methadone Info

cybervisionx

cybervisionx

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So I have taken 3 different types of dones, and I thought I noticed a difference in potency between them. I challenged that, thinking that possibly it was just a placebo, but after looking up a search on the differences between methadone and methadose, I stumbled across this on healthboards

"Although all meth(adone) comes from Mallinckrodt, the FDA still allows a degree of variation in the actual amount of medication in each pill. It's +10% or minus 15%. So any company formulating 10mg or 5mg tablets can use anywhere between 8.5 -11.0 mgs of actual active ingredient."
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Based on consumption, I believe the M 57 71s' are the strongest... Followed by the 54 142's and last being the methadose 10's.

Anyone feel the same way? Anyone differ?
 
I think it's the same as oxycodone... methadone is methadone is methadone...

oxycodone is oxycodone is oxycodone

xanax is xanax is xanax.....

Unless there is something different about methadone I dont know..
 
Someone should dig up the actual relevant regulations on variations in dose per dosage unit and see if that is correct. That is a ridiculously large variation, and i would be stunned if it was permitted.
 
TheAzo said:
Someone should dig up the actual relevant regulations on variations in dose per dosage unit and see if that is correct. That is a ridiculously large variation, and i would be stunned if it was permitted.
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That's what I was thinking. I can't find information anywhere else on the subject. The variation of that amount could be catastrophic, couldn't it?
 
when it comes to scheduled narcotic drugs....I,II,III,IV,V (1-5,) the main ingredient has to be EXACTLY the same as well as the inert (non active) ingredients.

the same goes for the generic forms of these medications...EXCEPT some companies use more of the cheaper inert fillers, and even though that doesn't sound so bad, the amount and kind of fillers effect the absorption of the drug.

non schedules medications, antidepressants, etc. etc. etc. have to have the same exact active drug, BUT the fillers can be COMPLETELY different. that is why generic Prozac is just SHIT!!! the same for generic Wellbutrin SR.
but most of the generic drugs work the same 70% of the time
 
Any "generic" prescription medication (in the United States) must fall within (I believe) 3% of the original chemical makeup of the original patented/"brand name" medication.

For example:
A Purdue "Oxycontin" 80mg 'brand name' will contain 80mg of Oxycodone. But a generic (Teva, for example) "Oxycodone SR" 80mg can contain anywhere from 77.6mg to 82.4mg of Oxycodone, according to FDA regulations.

It is the same across the board for *any* "brand" vs. "generic" prescription medication within the United States (I do not know the laws regarding this in other Countries). So I hope that answers your Methadone questions in regards to different potencies.
 
I dunno. I like my methadone dispensed to me at my clinic ( had to raise my dose again though and monday 20mgs higher so a total of 120mgs and that was what I was told to do and it would be in my best interest.

like someone said methadone is methadone imo

same with any other drug except weed, meth(street not pharm grade), and a few other things, but pharms are always the same. I've never had generics that havent helped just as much. I know when i had generic adderall xrs I got twacked off one or 2 30mg xrs but id usually only take one, and i never noticed a difference between the brand name and generics. I was also looking up what everyones deal with barr 5mg dexies? I read a loy of people saying they dont like them, and this is my first prescription and i usually ask for brand name just because ei like getting whats been being made for years and years, but i got the barr generics. I feel fine and great on them although I will be switching to 10mg tabs soon I dont care if they are barrs either.

but on topic whats the real difference between 5mgs of pink juice seriously. anyone whos in mmt knows what im talking about or maybe its just me when i get 5mg increases ever instead of 10mg I dont feel any more relieved.....at all....
 
Violenza666 said:
I think it's the same as oxycodone... methadone is methadone is methadone...

oxycodone is oxycodone is oxycodone

xanax is xanax is xanax.....

Unless there is something different about methadone I dont know..
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church. its all the same, maybe the fillers are hindering the absorption for you.
 
I actually started a thread about this today. My question was Is the U.K METHADONE(PHYSEPTONE) stronger then American (METHADONE). I have been doing some research but its hard to come by . But I guess if its intended for overseas there could be a big difference....I was told that its twice as potent as American Methadone....
 
It's all ridiculous. I guess that's why some people in my country believe Xanax is stronger than Afobam (alprazolam too) or they really prefer Seroxat to other paroxetine formulations. Mind you one 20mg tablet of Seroxat may even cost 328% of 20mg tablet of other brand.

And what about benzodiazepines? I know you don't have estazolam in the U.S. but you've got clonazepam. Here, there's one brand that produces a lot of benzodiazepine derivatives and it's Polish. I don't believe that 2mg of Klonopin is stronger than 2mg of Clonazepamum TZF.
 
Methadone is always the same 1mg in 1ml but if the concerntrate is different then your on to some other shit.
In europe methadone pills are called physeptone 5mg is the only strength we can get them in over here.
 
In Poland the only available methadone medicine is Molteni's syrup. It's always 1mg/ml and it comes in 10ml, 20ml, 100ml, and 1000ml bottles with the last one used at detoxes and program points (big, brown bottles with light blue screw top). Anyway, it's expensive as shit + expensive import, someone must have some business in importing this shit because we could also import Slovakian methadone which is way cheaper. Less costing syrup and less costing import would greatly contribute to improving Polish system of maintenance program which is a nightmare right now.
 
Brands DO make a difference

Violenza666 said:
I think it's the same as oxycodone... methadone is methadone is methadone...

oxycodone is oxycodone is oxycodone

xanax is xanax is xanax.....

Unless there is something different about methadone I dont know..
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You must not have been taking opiates very long. Wow hun, there is a huge difference in MOST bands of narcotics believe me. I am around 37 and have been taking Xanax for 20 years and now I am up to 2mil 3x's a day and have also been on some form of anti depression med for the same time period. I freakin hated pills til I was 30 or so, I wouldn't even hardly take a asprin for a headache and then once my back pain started along with endometriosis and fibroids & a few other wonderful conditions, I was off and running like a gazell. Since I was 30 I have had EVERYTHING prescribed to me, most of which I either really dug or really didn't, most pain meds just don't help me and even my Doctors can't figure it out. I have such a tolerance that when I had multiple back surgeries late last year, the Doctors were concerned about controlling my post op pain, well never the less none of the surgeries worked and my Neuro informed me that the only thing left for me was to keep going to Pain management til my last breath. So back to the topic at hand. I refuse to accept any Xanax unless it's my yellow bars, PERIOD. I have tried the white ones and they REALLY do suck the donkey and long ago when I took 1mil Xan's it HAD to be the egg shaped ones or I would go somewhere else to have those filled. Same thing with Oxycodone 30's, Qualliest fucking sucks, I could have just taken a handful of Aleve and those would have freakin worked better, but I had to go to CVS and that's all they have is that brand and I can assure you I will NOT be getting that brand again. I prefer my A215, I haven't seen M's in like forever. But I think that the M's are very close to the A215. And that's just 2 examples of med brands that DO have differences and YES it does make a huge difference unless your new to the pain med GAME. I take ALOT more than the above but I think you can get the picture. But at least when I get stuck in crap azz situations like mentioned above, I have my weed to fall back on. I am so blessed to have a super groovy PMD that allows his/hers patients to enjoy some pain relief from Mary Jane.

So much for now, I wish everyone could have a pain free day & a happy 420 to those who celebrate and if you don't you should start ;) Nobody EVER died from smoking the Ganja <3

PS - I know I am not in the right place but I can't find the person I was writing this for and I just couldn't waste it LOL....
 
Report back? Like you'll see if there's really 10mg of methadone hydrochloride by taking it?
 
I read the OP but I didn’t read any of the posts after that so if this is something already written that’s why.
I’ve been saying for a long time that the kind of methadone they give people on the meth clinic these days is nothing compared to the meth from the 80’s. The first time I was on methadone maintenance it was illegal for anyone to be on over 100mg of meth in Pennsylvania. That was 82’.

Recently I’ve had people tell me they’re on 160 or more mg of meth, which would’ve never happened back in the day.

The OP makes total sense, there has to be different kinds of meth of different strengths on the market.
 
@pinkestfloyd

I agree that different brands are better if your used to taking a pill and they change it to a cheaper one. the new generic subutex arent as "good" as the brand but only long term users would notice.(same with valium ime)
Would this apply to liquid (or otherwise )methadone?. Dont do the pills of done over here, so not sure but ive never noticed a diference between liquid form at dif chemists .
 
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