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Sorry if this is the wrong place to post but you guys are my target audience.
And this should be an interesting thread.

How many of you (especialy senior users) think that ocasional drug use like 2 clean mdma pills or half a gram of quality amphetamine a year is bad for you? Considering your a stable person who dosent have any current mental ilness or is at risk of flipping out on the come down.

Thanks!
 
Since you wern't specific I guess you are talking about doing any psychical or mental damage after using drugs on one occasion. You pretty much answered your own question. The only damage that you could sustain is if you were to have an underlining mental condition. Even then it would be rare. Being cautious enough to ask this question you probably wouldn't be the sort to go out and take ridiculous and reckless amounts. My opinion is that you will be fine if taken in moderation. Yes, there have been people in the past who have suffered detrimental adverse effects from one experience but to say it would be rare would be a enormous understatement!
 
I'd wonder why you had to take 2 pills... but total dose < 150mg... sure, neither of those things worry me much...
 
The decision to use a drug, much like any other decision in life, should be made with consideration to the BENEFITS and HARMS of doing so, and the relative probability of each.

I would say personally that I find using MDMA 2 times a year at a dose of 1 pill outweighs the harms thereof, provided that I didn't use any other drugs that year, and everything else in my life were in balance (at equilibrium), and I knew in advance that I would derive benefits from the experience, but the harms of using 1/2 gram of meth would not outweigh its benefits.

Either way, I'd remember that the main harm of occasional usage of MDMA is Oxidative Stress and depression, and I'd be prepared to deal with these in advance. (R-ALA, Abscorbic Acid, Selenium, SAM-E, 5-HTP, DLPA)
 
Well I was hell dpresssed on drugs, ate all the anti=d's including an maoi with speed to try and get high, my neurology isn't very good but I would have thuought an maoi + dopamine would = XS dopamine (bAD iDEA). RX lists say it should give you seratonin syndrom, dunno how that would
wok?????
Then I got off the drugs 4 six months and quit the anti'ds cos they made me weak & fat & sweaty witch is fuckin depressing.

But then over about 1 week I lost most anxiet n stuf & I have no I dea why.>
1- I was doing a bit of personal hypnosis stuff but I doubt it would have been that???
 
It could be me, but half a gram of speed sounds like a whole hell of a lot to take in a sitting, considering I need 15 mg d-amp for a good time.
 
Yep sorry my bad I dunno much about weights. Like 50$ of methamphetamine or 45mg of d-amphetamine. For a decent night. Is about right. No more then that a year properly administrated would have little to no effect on your lifespan. Its confirmed.
& As that guy says it depends on how long you wanna live........
.......Thus the saga continues
 
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BlueLight Neuropharmacology Text is very informative
Can Bilzor or anyone in the world create the perfect drug withought the side effects. aka perfect antideppressant. I was thinking maybe go along the lines of a pill with mdm* slow release & some kind of 5-htp fast release and up bit of uptake.
or maybe a decent dopamine Inhibiter withought the side effects?
 
Or maybe both combined? in the 1 pill of coarse
Or dose the US government frown on allowing this kind of drug research?
 
No. Just asking if it can be done, or if anyones working on a decent fucking drug. Like Selegeline but much more effective. I know some of the DRI's kept you high 24/7 but gave you problems with your liver or something.
 
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