Harm Reduction insufflation drip and the lungs

[vyvanazepam]

First of all, I utfse and could not find much on absorption
This is my first post on this new BL account

Im a very avid drug user and have decent knowledge of what I'm ingesting and and how to properly ingest it as well as how it's affecting my body from metabolism to mode of action
My question is that when I snort something
It obviously doesnt completely absorb though my nasal membrane.
It drips as a mucous goop that usually ends up in my lungs and not my stomach.
Everything I read always leads back to "ritalin lung":/
Is there any absorption happening in my lungs or am I just destroying my precious lung tissue?
And if there is,
What drugs can absorb and which ones are just killing me.
Thanx

 

[deerman]

I am a Doctor, and will answer your question to the best of my ability:

First of all, what is this term "ritalin lung". Are you insufflating ritalin?

Secondly, you probably didn't utfse properly, http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/358955-Snorted-pills-and-garbage-ending-up-in-lungs-dangerous.

It seems you just want to be personally fed a piece of information that will satisfy you at the moment, so here goes:

Don't fucking snort prescription pills. Sublingual and oral are much more effective ROA's for most pills contrary to the popular drug addict consensus, although you may need to tweak an oral method like parachuting a pill rather than swallowing it in whole pill form. If you want to get fancy, plug the drug. But for godsakes you are just wasting your prescription chemicals in your nose...I would rather see someone injecting ambien than snorting ritalin...on second thought perhaps that's not a good idea either

"sublingual, or under your tongue is by far the next best method after IV or IM. Some drugs like heroin or buprenorphine lose up to 40% of their bioavailibility when going through the oral route. As long as you dont swallow the saliva too quickly when u have a tab under the tongue then its a better method than snorting."

"The efficiency is determined on the livers role of metabolising that drug... for instance heroin is almost completly broken down by the liver... A 40mg oral dose of diacetylmorphine is equivalent to around 5mg insufflated.
But then a drug that isnt metabolised by the first pass of the liver is just as effective orally as it is snorted. A good example is oxycodone.. However, some oxy is metabolised in the first passed, and its more rapid pass in the system makes snorted oxy slightly more potent..
I'd say a snorted OC 20 is the equivalent of 25mg oral OxyIR. However, while snorting allows faster entry into the system, it also means faster leaving.. Snorting oxy probably takes 30min to an hour off the high.
I usually go oral on most things, unless i only have a small amount and i want to get the most out of it."

Did you utfse for bluelight specific threads?

I don't mean to be harsh, but yes your lung tissue is precious, just as your whole body and mind are precious. Please respect yourself, I am glad you asked this question, now please tell me the exact pills or chemicals you are insufflating or interested in insufflating? You ask what drugs can absorb, and what ones are just killing you? Do you know how many drugs there are? Hehe, and trust me, daily tobacco smokers have much more to worry about than your personal insufflation habits. Unless you are some backwoods trailer meth monkey putting crank up their nose day and night, I think you are okay for now.

So please, will you tell us what drugs you are thinking of insufflating?

 

[Bob Loblaw]

ODi

 

[f33lg00d]

Prescription pills with talc as a filler are extremely bad for the lungs to snort. You could perform a CWE, if your drug is water soluble ritilian is, and evaporate the filtered resulting liquid and scrap up that and snort it. That would eliminate most of the talc and make the experience much funner not clogging your nose up so bad.

 

[spacejunk]

I'm fairly sure the "drip" from insufflation isn't what ends up in your lungs; it goes down your throat, into your stomach (so you might as well have taken it orally)
The crap (in this case talc, binders, non-active pill ingredients) that goes into your lungs is from the action of sniffing a line of powder that is only a very, very low % of active ingredient.
I believe talc is injurious to the lungs, and does not break down or get absorbed (as it isn't water soluable) so it clogs up these vital organs.
Snorting pure chemicals is bad enough for the mucous membranes in the sinus; but snorting pills with a really low ratio of active ingredients to pill ingredients is really bad news for your lungs. The amount of non-active ingredients in tablets also means the absorption via the sinus will be reduced because much of the surface area will be covered in fillers and binders.
Do an extraction and evaporate it if you must - but as the other posts above have said, snorting pills ain't a good idea.

 

[vyvanazepam]

I always use bl for everything I ingest
Specificly, the only drugs I insuffalate are coke and sometimes adderall.
I have snorted dexmethylphenidate, the dextro isomer
But I feel that no matter what, the drug I insuffalate gets trapped in mucus. And I always sniff very lightly so it stays in my nasal cavity.
but for some reason, if I don't constantly cough, that mucus goes to my lungs naturally.
Let's say if that mucus with drugs in it
Reaches my lungs
Will it absorb or just absolutely destroy the tissue?

 

[sekio]

The pill fillers from ritalin pills, in small quantity get trapped in your nasal mucosa and blown out in the normal course of things. It is actually absorbed from the mucous when it is in contact with your nasal tissue.

Ritalin lung is mostly caused by injecting talc from pills, not necessarily snorting it. You need to snort a hell of a lot of pills, or be snorting them on a regular basis, before you worry about lung damage.

Snorting talc is not good for you, but small amounts of talc are not like sulfuric acid or anything... your lungs do have mechanisms to remove foreign debris.

Switch to plugging if you need the fast release, otherwise just eat the stuff.

 

[Harrisment]

I agree that people on bl tend to want to snort things when it's not necessary, but there are some pills like oxymorphone where the bioavailability is so much higher than oral, that insuffulation makes sense. I've tried plugging them, and while it works, I've found that snorting works better and for longer. I'd love to not have to snort them, as it clogs up my sinuses for days.

 

[vyvanazepam]

What if... lolololol

You hit a line of extremely pure cocaine very violently so that it does go into your
Lungs
What would the bioavailability be
And if coke isn't permeable to lung tissue
What pure powder substance could be absorbed better than conventional roa's
besides iv of course
I know that the advair disk inhaler is powder that you inhale

 

[vyvanazepam]

I agree that people on bl tend to want to snort things when it's not necessary, but there are some pills like oxymorphone where the bioavailability is so much higher than oral, that insuffulation makes sense. I've tried plugging them, and while it works, I've found that snorting works better and for longer. I'd love to not have to snort them, as it clogs up my sinuses for days.

Its not that I have a snorting fetish
But its a better rush than oral
Especially shitty drugs like dexmethylphenidate
And when I do indulge on these pharms
I usually put 80% of my dose in warm water
then snort the rest to get the slight rush before it starts to kick in
and even if im losing 20% bioavailability
im making up for it with potentiators
O and ive plugged dozens of drugs
IT is ,imo my favorite roa
But sadly who wants to be that guy at a party that put an oral syringe in his ass
Or at a club
It's just not as easy to prep and neither is iv
Sooo