Input Please. BUPE, K-PIN, & LSD(strong!!!)

[chairmanma084]

I tried posting a question in another thread and I did utse. So I'm sorry for starting a new thread in advance.

However, I think my situation is a bit unique, at least to this site.

Tonight I'm going to do some acid. It's strong and I've got plenty. I have a very low tolerance to LSD. The last time i tripped was in 2009 and 1 hit got me high as a kite. Back then I was only on klonopin though. I am on a maintenance dose of suboxone (8mg/day for about 7 months now). I take it mid-day (around 2pm). I also take klonopin (2mg/day, 1mg in the morning and 1mg at night for about 2 years). So i'm pretty tolerant and used to both of these drugs.

That said. What should I expect? I've read conflicting reports about sub and kpin blocking the trip and, alternately, no blocking nor augmentation at all. Should I just do more acid to begin with? Should i take it easy and gradually increase if i don't feel anything much? What do you think bluelighters (and greenlighters too i suppose)?

 

[Venrak]

I wouldn't expect the clonazepam or the suboxone to affect the trip much at all if you stick to the doses you've been taking daily for some time now.

 

[freedstar]

I think the clonazepam would still dampen the trip even if you are taking it daily, but you would definitely still feel it. Starting gradually is a good idea.

 

[Survived Abortion]

If you took LSD with klonopin before and had a strong trip, then there's no reason to think it wouldn't be a good trip this time. But in combination with the bupe, I guess only you know how much more sedated that makes you. Opiates and benzos generally don't impact the trip much on their own, but I don't know about in combination.

I'd start off with your normal dose, and if you are not feeling it as strongly as you wish, redose at the 1-1.5 hour mark. In my experience with LSD, redosing is definitely effective, and you can significantly enhance the strength of your trip if you do it early enough.

I wouldn't worry about having too strong a trip, since you are on benzos (and opiates) which should provide a warm buffer.

 

[Ondine]

I would say just don't take any kpins after you drop the acid, unless you want the intensity level to drop. Personally, I feel like taking 10-20mg of valium about an hour before tripping on any chemical virtually guarantees a stress free, easy going trip for me (if that's what I'm looking for).

Opiates, like alcohol, always seem to jump to the forefront if you take them while tripping, but I wouldn't go so far as to say that they actually diminish it.

 

[IamMe90]

I'd say that downers of any kind definitely significantly diminish (or at least alter) the visual and auditory aspects of a good trip.