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Injection; IV Complications and Information MEGATHREAD and FAQ II - show me the blood

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Unholyconstipation said:
So if I mix it in cold tap water there wont be any bacteria and the cut doesnt need to be boiled out, I am sure it is Dormin sleep aid/ Diphenidrimine unsure of spelling. Everyone I seen always cooks the crap out of there dope.

And my veins are really not very visable without a strap, so does this mean I should buy longer needles and just try to poke the general area I see the veins come up from?

And I am sorry but thanks for putting my post where it belongs I am new to this forum and have trouble navigating after mixing up my bedtime dose.
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There is bacteria in tap water, you would have to sterilize the water by boiling it *before* you add in the dope. It needs to boil for 20 minutes. Merely lighting the spoon for 10-15 seconds does not sterilize it.

The heroin+cut itself could have bacteria in it; in which case you would need a 0.22um micron filter to remove it.

A lot of people who shoot dope just don't know any better.

Instead of using long tips, do this instead:

* use a heating device
* wash the area in warm water
* do jumping jacks/etc to raise your blood pressure
* let your arm dangle down
* pump your fist
* lift weights at the gym
 
Thanks you guys have been very helpful I have a much better idea at what I should be doing. So if I use cold water do I just stir it up and filter and go? Or do you mean just heat it with no boiling to dissolve it all down?

And I would try the micron filters but at this time I am going to be quitting hopefully in 5 days when I get on suboxone. So what would be my best procedure for working with what I got just boil water for 20 mins then let it cool and mix and go? And is cotton or a cig filter better integrity and I even seen some guys use no filter they just cook up the powder to a brief half second boil and draw it up and go at it this must be the worst thing you could do then right?

I am only going to do around 10-15 more shots in total to maintain until I can get on bupe, so I am just trying to be reasonable I cant wait for days for the filters to come in the mail. I wish we had a needle exchange around here but the closest one is in Kansas city and I am all the way clean across the state on the Illinois Missouri border line.

But I am very thankful for the replies as I have no other way of obtaining viable information, its sad strangers on the internet are more helpful than the "friends/fiends" that I surround myself by, of course I am going to leave them all behind once I jump to suboxone but its terrible these people are worse off than me with no resources to figure out that they are fucking up bad.

I wish this stuff came with a instruction manual, but that would be just too easy now wouldn't it lol.
 
Everything today comes with an instruction manual - it's called THE INTERNET and it's up to the individual to decide how much effort they're going to put into learning about their new toy.

Even though you're quitting, you should learn to micron filter, especially if the gear is on the way. No offense, but not everyone's plan to quit actually comes together...
 
Unholyconstipation said:
Thanks you guys have been very helpful I have a much better idea at what I should be doing. So if I use cold water do I just stir it up and filter and go? Or do you mean just heat it with no boiling to dissolve it all down?
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You want to chop the heroin up fine so there is minimal stirring. Don't add any heat, that is completely not necessary.

And I would try the micron filters but at this time I am going to be quitting hopefully in 5 days when I get on suboxone. So what would be my best procedure for working with what I got just boil water for 20 mins then let it cool and mix and go? And is cotton or a cig filter better integrity and I even seen some guys use no filter they just cook up the powder to a brief half second boil and draw it up and go at it this must be the worst thing you could do then right?
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Cotton is what you want to use, and yes, boil water by itself for 20 minutes, let it cool, then use it. A cigarette filter isn't good to use, unless it is a brand that uses cotton. Some brands do not use cotton.

Yes, heating it up, and not using a filter, that is the worst thing you can do to yourself. You should see all the insoluble shit just a tiny pinch of cotton can remove; whatever is filtered out is not heroin, just what shouldn't be in your dope (dust, human hair, cutting agents, etc)

I am only going to do around 10-15 more shots in total to maintain until I can get on bupe, so I am just trying to be reasonable I cant wait for days for the filters to come in the mail. I wish we had a needle exchange around here but the closest one is in Kansas city and I am all the way clean across the state on the Illinois Missouri border line.

But I am very thankful for the replies as I have no other way of obtaining viable information, its sad strangers on the internet are more helpful than the "friends/fiends" that I surround myself by, of course I am going to leave them all behind once I jump to suboxone but its terrible these people are worse off than me with no resources to figure out that they are fucking up bad.

I wish this stuff came with a instruction manual, but that would be just too easy now wouldn't it lol.
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Good luck with Suboxone, it helped me quit using heroin for sure.

John_Burrows said:
Even though you're quitting, you should learn to micron filter, especially if the gear is on the way. No offense, but not everyone's plan to quit actually comes together...
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And even if you do quit, encourage other heroin IV'ers to use cotton filters, and if anyone has the $ to do this, invest in micron filters. At the very least, tell them about how heating a shot is pointless and doesn't help out, and that filtering with cotton is important.
 
Cocaine IV trouble?

Hello everyone,

Lately, I've acquired a taste for IV cocaine; however, my fun has been cut down significantly due to missed shots and other problems. Lately, When I insert my needle blood starts to 'ooze' into the barrel. Is this normal? Am I in the vein? Any help would be MUCH appreciated.
 
Hi guys I have a quick question regarding a strange experience I just had.

I'm an occasional IV Heroin user and over the last few days I've been on a little binge, IVing about 5 times a day. I recently just injected about 45 units into a hand vein, I registered and did not miss the vein. Right after I finished the shot I felt some stinging/burning in a small spot up my arm, about 7 inches away from the IV site. A small red "lump" formed, and this lump is slowly receding as I type and the redness is going away.

I'm just wondering why I had this reaction several inches above the area that I injected into?
 
ErikTheRed said:
Hi guys I have a quick question regarding a strange experience I just had.

I'm an occasional IV Heroin user and over the last few days I've been on a little binge, IVing about 5 times a day. I recently just injected about 45 units into a hand vein, I registered and did not miss the vein. Right after I finished the shot I felt some stinging/burning in a small spot up my arm, about 7 inches away from the IV site. A small red "lump" formed, and this lump is slowly receding as I type and the redness is going away.

I'm just wondering why I had this reaction several inches above the area that I injected into?
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Now I really am not one to ask but I have experienced this before from not letting my shots cool down enough and shooting a hot one. I have seen others get it and they called it "heat rash" I don't know if that's really what it is though this is just what some buddies told me. Sometimes its one lump sometimes a few varying in size and location, hope it helps knowing it is a shared experience.
 
ErikTheRed said:
Hi guys I have a quick question regarding a strange experience I just had.

I'm an occasional IV Heroin user and over the last few days I've been on a little binge, IVing about 5 times a day. I recently just injected about 45 units into a hand vein, I registered and did not miss the vein. Right after I finished the shot I felt some stinging/burning in a small spot up my arm, about 7 inches away from the IV site. A small red "lump" formed, and this lump is slowly receding as I type and the redness is going away.

I'm just wondering why I had this reaction several inches above the area that I injected into?
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Histamine reaction I believe. I normally get them at the site of injection, so I couldn't tell you why that happened.

Please be careful with your hand veins. I would only use the finest gauge (for me I would only use 31G) possible when injecting into hand veins.

Unholyconstipation said:
Now I really am not one to ask but I have experienced this before from not letting my shots cool down enough and shooting a hot one. I have seen others get it and they called it "heat rash" I don't know if that's really what it is though this is just what some buddies told me. Sometimes its one lump sometimes a few varying in size and location, hope it helps knowing it is a shared experience.
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You do not need to heat your shots though! This shouldn't be happening.
 
If you are talking about when blood trickles into a needle instead of flushing back, then this might be due to using a used needle and the tip is too dull to puncture properly, or it could be that you are overusing your veins/not cycling your injection sites.
 
It seems almost random to me as to when, during a register, blood either rushes into the syringe or barely trickles in; I do rotate sites and always use clean needles, so I'm not quick to believe that is the culprit. It seems that it might have more to do with blood pressure; when I do my first shot of the day, after an entire night of inactivity (sleeping), the blood isn't very active. But later in the day, when circulation is better, that's when tne blood seems more "spurty."

What I don't understand is why sometimes the blood is very dark red and sometimes lighter in color; and I know it's not a vein vs an artery, since I get different colors out of the same veins. It seems this might also correlate to blood pressure (the inactive blood is usually darker) but I can't say for sure since I haven't kept records.
 
The more you know...

John_Burrows said:
What I don't understand is why sometimes the blood is very dark red and sometimes lighter in color; and I know it's not a vein vs an artery, since I get different colors out of the same veins. It seems this might also correlate to blood pressure (the inactive blood is usually darker) but I can't say for sure since I haven't kept records.
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Staying well hydrated keeps your blood dark red, and being dehydrated will cause your blood to be brighter red.
 
shot into feet 2 days, no veins left

my question is that because the blood flow/overall circulation is less in the feet, do you not get the same rush?

I have read that repeated injection into the same spot makes you lose your veins but 2 days and about 10 shots is all it took! I cant even register down there now.

Im going to go back to my hands but the great thing about the feet is i can use both my hands.
 
nycfc said:
my question is that because the blood flow/overall circulation is less in the feet, do you not get the same rush?

I have read that repeated injection into the same spot makes you lose your veins but 2 days and about 10 shots is all it took! I cant even register down there now.

Im going to go back to my hands but the great thing about the feet is i can use both my hands.
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my guess is that your vein isnt collapsed, more than likely some scar tissue has developed resulting in more difficulty getting into the vein.


there are numerous veins you can hit before you result to your feet.


there are numerous threads on guides to various veins if you use the search engine. be sure you use a new rig each time you inject to prevent extensive damage.
 
Missed shots when registered

Hey all,


Done some damage to my arms over time, and stuck rotating between 2-3 spots. Problem now is, I register, and then begin to push and i feel a slight sting, not like a miss, but just a pain, and I have to push down quite slow. A few minutes after, alot of the time it will show similar symptoms of a miss, ie. bubbling up and going red, and I feel some of the effects, but not all. Could this be from the needle peircing the vein, and while some maybe going in, some is also leaking out? Any thoghts/ideas. And could someone link me to an image of the vein maps on arms please?
 
being a IV'er for a while i have experienced alot ,blood just barely running into the barrel could be because of hardened veins ,scar tissue ,or you over used a part of the vein far up the arm and it has scar tissue around that are restricting flow

when i IV into a over used vein or should i say when i iv closer to my hand and the injected solution makes it way through over used veins i get pain,and histamine reaction itching,etc kinda feels like sand running through the vein

get a forearm "worker" small device u grip ,basically you want to get as much oxygen into your veins as possible ,lifting weights does this greatly i have had veins come back i thought were way gone,dont half ass it,do it HARD and intense
 
goddamn, the TOP thread when you posted this was the IV complications mega thread.



---->IV complications thread.
 
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