Injection filters?

[moonshadow]

When injecting things like meth or good coke that goes straight into solution is it necessary to use a filter? If there are no suspended particles it seems like it would do more harm than good, what with the risk of cotton fever and the slight loss of product.
[ 16 November 2002: Message edited by: moonshadow ]

 

[Morninggloryseed]

It is nessessary to use a micron filter if you want what you are injecting to be sterile. If you have absolutely no regard for your health, then don't worry about it.
[ 16 November 2002: Message edited by: morninggloryseed ]

 

[Love In Vein]

The risk of cotton fever is almost non-existant.
I've given myself nearly 1000 injections in the past year and had absolutely no problems. As well, I've never known anyone else to have any problems.
As for suspended particles, simply because you can't see them doesn't mean they're not there.
It would be extremely foolish NOT to use at least a filter from sterile cotton from a Q-tip. Simply make sure to rub your fingers with alcohol before rolling the cotton and make sure that everything else you're using is clean and sterile.

 

[fairnymph]

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My thoughts exactly.

 

[SeveredPsyche]

morninggloryseed:

It is nessessary to use a micron filter if you want what you are injecting to be sterile.
Using a filter is a damn good idea, but it will still be nowhere near sterile. Using that word implies a certain level of safety which just isn't there.
Getting a pharmaceutical company to make the drug & having it prepared by a pharmacist or nurse is a different matter.

 

[day_for_night]

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umm, a micron filter allows only the smallest of particles through (ie. molecules). bacterica and any other small particulate matter will be filtered out, rendering a sterile solution.

 

[Thurgood]

Originally posted by day_for_night:
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umm, a micron filter allows only the smallest of particles through (ie. molecules). bacterica and any other small particulate matter will be filtered out, rendering a sterile solution.
While I agree with you day_for_night, I think what SeveredPsyche was trying to say about the sterile solution being safe was that no matter what, street drugs will always have some level of danger. You never know what it was cut with that disolved and went through the filter as well.
But, I personally think that filtering is the way to go...I mean it's not all that difficult and you save yourself the potential dangers associated with not doing so.

 

[moonshadow]

Originally posted by Love In Vein:

As for suspended particles, simply because you can't see them doesn't mean they're not there.

That's true, but cotten doesn't exactly make a real tight filter. I always use a filter myself but I was wondering if it was really worthwhile. I've never used a micron filter, and have actually never even heard of them, but I'll definately look into it.
I guess the real question was whether cotton is truly an effective filter for anything beyond the largest particles?
[ 19 November 2002: Message edited by: moonshadow ]

 

[PhreeX]

You should ALWAYS use a filter when injecting - the idea isnt to somehow filter our bacteria because thats not really possible, rather, the idea is you dont draw any (large) particles into the syringe that would be injected and possibly cause problems ...

 

[SeveredPsyche]

With cotton filters or dried swabs the purpose is to keep out large particles. However, it is possible to filter out some bacteria.
From the UNC web site:

Filtration is used to remove particles from solutions. These particles might be particulate matter or they may be microorganisms. Filtration is not a "terminal sterilization" procedure as are steam (moist heat), dry heat, ionized radiation, or gas sterilization. Filtration will sterilize the product, but after filtration, the sterile product is then aseptically combined with its packaging. Filtration is used for materials that are chemically or physically unstable if sterilized by heat, gas, or radiation.
A web search will turn up similar results.

 

[Grand Master of Somniferon]

So, where would a person get micron filters? Also, anyone ever heard of "wheel filters", and where to get these?

 

[ketamatic]

>So, where would a person get micron filters? Also, anyone ever heard of "wheel filters", and where to get these? <
I believe a wheel filter is a type of micron filter, a 'wheel' because it is disc shaped maybe? Takin' a guess on that though. Anyway, do a search on google for 'wheel filter' or 'micron filter' and you should come up with some results. However, they are rather pricey(it's been about 5 months ago before I started injecting that I was looking into ordering some, so I might be mistaken as I am too lazy to go look right now)--I recall each .02 micron filter being somewhere in the range of $1.50-$2.00 when boughten in packages of 100. But like I said, Google.

 

[SeveredPsyche]

ketamatic: That description is about right. I can get them free I think where I am. Not sure...there's always someone with a bag with 100+ fits of all sizes, filters, butterflies etc. so it has never been a problem for me.