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injecting versed

negrogesic

negrogesic

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First off, injecting pills are bad.............


I have some 15mg versed tablets. I want to inject them. But, they are not water soluble. I did find something interesting though:

Midazolam is a benzodiazepine available as VERSED Syrup for oral administration. Midazolam, a white to light yellow crystalline compound, is insoluble in water, but can be solubilized in aqueous solutions by formation of the hydrochloride salt in situ under acidic conditions. Chemically, midazolam HCl is 8-chloro-6-(2-fluorophenyl)-1-methyl-4 H -imidazo[1,5-a][1,4]benzodiazepine hydrochloride. Midazolam hydrochoride has the empirical formula C 18 H 13 ClFN 3 ·HCl, and a calculated molecular weight of 362.25. v
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I realize injecting versed is no joke, but this is somewhat interesting. Do i need to make a weak HCL solution to dissolve it in? And could that acidity be tolerated in the blood stream? I would imagine rectifying the pH with some base would probably precipitate the midazolam out of solution defeating the whole purpose. Can dilute HCL be injected? I'd sure be apprehensive doing this. Maybe I can dissolve it in vinager and inject that solution.


Dont lecture why this is a bad idea, just offer helpfull and constructive suggestions other than "dont do it you idiot". And, for you safety first hecklers, I am well aware of the respiratory effects of this drug.........
 
I don't have any solid information to give you, but I know that crack (freebase) cocaine can be injected if you dissolve it in white distilled vinegar. The concept is the same as what you suggested, the acid (vinegar) converts the freebase into a soluble salt. So I suppose the acidity in the bloodstream isnt really a problem (if you use minimal acid, its converted into a neutral salt anyway), so I wouldn't worry too much about that. I don't know anything about the particular drug you are asking about, but I suppose it should work out the same, its a pretty basic chemistry concept. And I would try it with white distilled vinegar. The best source you probably could find for HCL would be Muriatic acid, which is used to adjust pH in swimming pools, and I don't know that I'd inject that shit into my veins. Hope this was somewhat helpful, its all I've got.
 
I can take a guess. An aquaintence recently had versed injected for a growth surgery and said that after he actually became conscious again the effects were really fun (pseudo-hallucinations, extreme relaxation, slight euphoria, etc).

I got to spend time with him while he was on it, and I can just say that I don't think that anyone who isn't very experienced/responsible could handle it.
 
hope im not too late....dude just eat them on their own....ive experimented on them awhile back and i can tell you tat their serious shit..2 15mg pills should be enough for someone with normal tolerance.
 
IV versed is most DEFFINATELY fantastic. deffinately at the top of the list... :) good luck--ive got no advise for ya unfortunately, but i do think NotTonight had a viable suggestion.
 
Shit i tried preparing it with 15mg pill and water and vinager, and it didnt work, at least i dont feel super fucked up. I must have done it wrong. But i dont want to injecting fucking HCL!
 
(i may say some dumb shit as im fucked up on rohypnol and i may start rambling)

I am extremely experienced, i prepare the pills for injection meticulously, spending sometimes 45 minutes to prepare. I use micron filters, and everything. Ive honestly read the PDR cover to cover, and im working on the merck book. Ive taken up to organic chem 2. I keep my shit super clean, i ever where drugs, Ive injected pretty much any drug you can name (opiates).

Ok, enough dicksizing (its actually pretty normal size, 6 maybe 6..5 haha). For some fucking reason, injecting the versed in vinager and water didnt work, It guess it needs HCL to become soluble. But what molarity should i use, i have lab grade hcl not that muriatic pool acid shit. Can I inject HCL with water, at maybe be .1molar? Like i said if i trry to add some base to it, the versed might precipitate it out of solution, rendering useless. I dont know im sort of sketched out about this, and of course its a bad idea. I got an IQ over 170+ (a real 2 hour proctered IQ test not that internet test bullshit), and i nearly got perfect on my sat's, but I am one DUMB mother fucker. I maybe an intelligence fucker but im not too smart. There i go dick sizing, but its not particularly flattering. Injecting versed? Pretty dumb, since i shot a gram of tar this morning and took 180mg of methadone. I am still curious but:

Intravenous VERSED has been associated with respiratory depression and respiratory arrest, especially when used for sedation in noncritical care settings. In some cases, where this was not recognized promptly and treated effectively, death or hypoxic encephalopathy has resulted. Intravenous VERSED should be used only in hospital or ambulatory care settings, including physicians' and dental offices, that provide for continuous monitoring of respiratory and cardiac function, ie, pulse oximetry. Immediate availability of resuscitative drugs and age- and size-appropriate equipment for bag/valve/mask ventilation and intubation, and personnel trained in their use and skilled in airway management should be assured (see WARNINGS ). For deeply sedated pediatric patients, a dedicated individual, other than the practitioner performing the procedure, should monitor the patient throughout the procedure.
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So i need to convert it into a HCL, dry it out, dissolve in water and shoo. I really want to try this, since I hear IV versed is the fucking ayatollah of benzos. One of the fews i have tried, and i ahve a grip of them. I just need to find the right dose, since 15mg is alot.

Dont worry, if I die, no one here egged me on to do this. In fact I was advised not to do this by you guys. But i'll live. You think if i shot some methamphetamine or some stimulant if the versed fucked with my breathing? Would that help. When shoot experimental shit like this, i keep my cell phone with 911 already dialed, ready to press send. I even write the name of the drug on my hand. Maybe i;'ll try shooting it in vodka, most things are soluble in that.

One toke oveer the line sweet jesus, one toke over the line

- smell you later
 
*(i may say some dumb shit as im fucked up on rohypnol and i may start rambling)


I am extremely experienced, i prepare the pills for injection meticulously, spending sometimes 45 minutes to prepare. I use micron filters, and everything. Ive honestly read the PDR cover to cover, and im working on the merck book. Ive taken up to organic chem 2. I keep my shit super clean, i even wear fucking gloves so the oils and bacteria on my finger dont contaminate my shot. Ive injected pretty much any drug you can name (opiates).

Ok, enough dicksizing (its actually pretty normal size, 6 maybe 6..5 haha). For some fucking reason, injecting the versed in vinager and water didnt work, It guess it needs HCL to become soluble. But what molarity should i use, i have lab grade hcl not that muriatic pool acid shit. Can I inject HCL with water, at maybe be .1molar? Any one know what the lowest pH safe enought to inject? Maybe I shoot some baking soda right after, haha,

Like i said if i try to add some base to it, the versed might precipitate out of solution, rendering useless. I dont know though, im sort of sketched out about this, and of course its a bad idea. I got an IQ over 170+ (a real 2 hour proctored IQ test not that internet test bullshit), and i nearly got perfect on my sat's, but I am one DUMB mother fucker. I maybe an intelligence fucker but im not too smart. There i go dick sizing, but its not particularly flattering. Injecting versed? Pretty dumb, since i shot a gram of tar this morning and took 180mg of methadone. I am still curious but this makes my my balls sweat a little:

Intravenous VERSED has been associated with respiratory depression and respiratory arrest, especially when used for sedation in noncritical care settings. In some cases, where this was not recognized promptly and treated effectively, death or hypoxic encephalopathy has resulted. Intravenous VERSED should be used only in hospital or ambulatory care settings, including physicians' and dental offices, that provide for continuous monitoring of respiratory and cardiac function, ie, pulse oximetry. Immediate availability of resuscitative drugs and age- and size-appropriate equipment for bag/valve/mask ventilation and intubation, and personnel trained in their use and skilled in airway management should be assured (see WARNINGS ). For deeply sedated pediatric patients, a dedicated individual, other than the practitioner performing the procedure, should monitor the patient throughout the procedure.
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So i need to convert it into a HCL, dry it out, dissolve in water and spike it. I really want to try this, since I hear IV versed is the fucking ayatollah of benzos. One of the fews i havent tried, and i ahve a grip of them. I just need to find the right dose, since 15mg is alot.

Dont worry, if I die, no one here egged me on to do this. In fact I was advised not to do this by you guys. But i'll live. You think if i shot some methamphetamine or some stimulant if the versed fucked with my breathing? Would that help. When shooting experimental shit like this, i keep my cell phone with 911 already dialed, ready to press send. I even write the name of the drug on my hand. Maybe i;'ll try shooting it in vodka, most things are soluble in that.

One toke over the line sweet jesus, one toke over the line
 
I don't think using meth or any other strong stimulant to offset the respiratory depression is such a good idea. If you're that worried about it, maybe you should try this on a day that you don't shoot a gram of tar and down 180mg of methadone (if such days ever occur, idk...). Just be careful man.(I know you usually are, but this doesn't sound like a good idea to me.)
 
Yes I outrightly admit that this is a bad idea, but curiousity killed the negrogesic.I mean, od'ing from IV versed wouldnt be the worse way to die, but it would sure uflattering of your character.

In the interest of science. my next endeavor is to dissolve halcion in vokda, and try to find one vein that isnt allready collasped and inject in to it. Im afraind to start injecting on my legs,


Thani forthe concern.



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Im afraind to start injecting on my legs
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I exclusively use the veins on the inside of my legs, right below the kneecap, touching the inner knee. They're big and won't leave revealing tracks, unless you wear short shorts.
 
g^^^^Could you elaborate a little regarding this location? Where do you tie off, and what gauge needle are you using. The smallest needle ive got is 27. So where exactly are these veins, and if you dont mind, which direction do you point them (needle jp
towards your torso or towards your feet)






Thanks alot, ese

















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When I get at a loss for veins my ankle veins and foot veins work extremely well. Plus I wear sock most days. My inner thigh and legs just dont have good veins for injecting. There is always the wrist and hand till that gets beat and than on to the next body part...
 
I'm sitting up straight and my left leg is folded over the right. The crease where the thigh touches the calf, right where the knee is. To the right of the crease. I've got nice veins on both legs that use to be much more visible 100+ injections ago... but even though I can't see em, they're still there. I've hit it with 25-29 gauge... and I don't need to tie off. The veins stays put and I can hit it easily when my leg is straight.
 
Feet and ankles are probably the riskiest places to inject into. The blood flows slowly, increasing the chances of abscess or infection. The veins there are small and collapse easily. Feet also have lots of fungal and bacterial critters living there, which can be very nasty if they enter your bloodstream.

Injecting into your legs doesn't carry the same risks as injecting into your feet, but there's still the risk of DVT.

I'm sure you all know this, I'm just restating for newbies who don't know.
 
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