Injecting street heroin - a step too far?

[Bleaney]

Have you tried chasing heroin off foil? That ROA might work better for you than snorting it.

How could I forget speed. It felt so good. The only trouble as with any stim worth it's salt was the brutal come down and the day (s) after. I didn't know about benzos back then, and how they could smooth out the comedown and help with sleep.

When speed was great, back in the 90s, I was disciplined enough, or didn't have the circumstances, to go on prolonged binges. So it would only ever be one night, or day, and then stop.

Even that was very hard on mental health in the days after though. The lack of sleep plus something else going on would mean a huge increase in anxiety and paranoia in the aftermath.

ODT was hands down my best Opi. Lit me up like a christmas tree. Amazing stuff.

I once had 1g of pure opium. A beautiful aromatic little black ball that came in it's own little container. Unfortunately at that time, I was not the person I am today, and stupid idiotic me was not in a place mentally to have the patience to defer gratification and learn how to use it properly. I ended up trying to use it like Hash, sprinkled in a joint, and it didn't work at all. I'd have been better off simply swallowing half of it or dissolving it in a hot drink. Then I could have have felt like Thomas De Quincey too.

 

[TheUltimateFixx]

I once had 1g of pure opium. A beautiful aromatic little black ball that came in it's own little container. Unfortunately at that time, I was not the person I am today, and stupid idiotic me was not in a place mentally to have the patience to defer gratification and learn how to use it properly. I ended up trying to use it like Hash, sprinkled in a joint, and it didn't work at all. I'd have been better off simply swallowing half of it or dissolving it in a hot drink. Then I could have have felt like Thomas De Quincey too.

That's a criminal waste of opium.

 

[Bleaney]

That's a criminal waste of opium.

Yeah, I know.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

Snorting it? What a Tragic waste!!!!!

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

I can just tell they aint cut out for the gear life one bit.
Some people are & go to it like an Anthropologist does to a tribe in the Amazon, others just aren't made for it.

 

[kongoman]

Hello guys!!!
When I read someone who talk about rough opium and I think is the first one in about three weeks makes me react because one day I've been there, in the fields, the white poopy fields, always crouched down cause anybody could see us, we were some friends with the same goal, extract the maximum dryed poopy latex and take it to our house.
Then every one Would decide what to do with this preciate piece containing pure morphine and much more alcaloids.
These days ore times I was happy. I was only 20 years old and I did never work for many years, I got money from species that I probably fall in addiction and that was what It happened. I've been two times in the pooppy fields in Andalucia, the south region of Spain.
First time I got arround 100 grams of opium, like 15-20 grams of morphine. I sold most of it and have been high like 8-9 times, that was incredible voyage. We were 8 friends living in a big town house...and often we get high all together. So you had 8 people laying down on the sofa or in his bed allnight long, some of them visiting toilets to vomit...we have dreamed alive, It's an opiate characteristic, you can Dreams when you are not sleeping. So things happened allright for me and my friends, nobody was trapped by opium and It came the spring and the time to go to the fields, exactly in may, in the first or second week of the month. Then we drive to Antequera in the region of Andalucia. 3-4 days hidden and camouflaged in the poopy fields, cutting the preocius and cherished latex from the heads of poopys. Then we let dry from the sunlight and came about 5-6hours after. Then come the hardest part of this, we had to collect the dried latex from the hundreds cuts that we did before.
Everyone with his technique but all of them were correct.
After 3-4 days collecting opium we drove home. Everybody was happy, we travel and cross Spain from south to north not Being caught by the fuzz. I had arround 100grams
Of rough opium. T'has night we swallowed a piece of opium and get high for all over 24 hours. This year did began my opiates addicction. I started to take half gram of opium usually every morning with empty stomach. I got plenty of rushes caused by the morphine that opium contain. The days were passing and I continue with the same mechanism, one Ball every morning before breakfast.
It gave me energy, big euphoria like a shot of any opiate. At night gave me sedation combined with THC was my prefered combo.
100 grams converted to a little piece of opium. I began to search opium everywhere, but the were no option. I became agitated and nervous. Then was sent a person to my house that obyously had Heroin...At this point
I had a girlfriend and we lived together.
Both with the same problem and there was when wee Turned to H. This guy offered some lines of a good dope and we don't doubt it and snorted some of them and It was the first time I bought H. I asked him for a dose and he told us that he could buy half gram at 40€. And we accepted. There was the H era for the couple. I can continue but I think it's too much, so I'll stop. Probably you have the second chapter if is nedded...
@Bleaney hope you understand things...
Send you lots of

 

[Señor Moreno]

Hello guys!!!
When I read someone who talk about rough opium and I think is the first one in about three weeks makes me react because one day I've been there, in the fields, the white poopy fields, always crouched down cause anybody could see us, we were some friends with the same goal, extract the maximum dryed poopy latex and take it to our house.
Then every one Would decide what to do with this preciate piece containing pure morphine and much more alcaloids.
These days ore times I was happy. I was only 20 years old and I did never work for many years, I got money from species that I probably fall in addiction and that was what It happened. I've been two times in the pooppy fields in Andalucia, the south region of Spain.
First time I got arround 100 grams of opium, like 15-20 grams of morphine. I sold most of it and have been high like 8-9 times, that was incredible voyage. We were 8 friends living in a big town house...and often we get high all together. So you had 8 people laying down on the sofa or in his bed allnight long, some of them visiting toilets to vomit...we have dreamed alive, It's an opiate characteristic, you can Dreams when you are not sleeping. So things happened allright for me and my friends, nobody was trapped by opium and It came the spring and the time to go to the fields, exactly in may, in the first or second week of the month. Then we drive to Antequera in the region of Andalucia. 3-4 days hidden and camouflaged in the poopy fields, cutting the preocius and cherished latex from the heads of poopys. Then we let dry from the sunlight and came about 5-6hours after. Then come the hardest part of this, we had to collect the dried latex from the hundreds cuts that we did before.
Everyone with his technique but all of them were correct.
After 3-4 days collecting opium we drove home. Everybody was happy, we travel and cross Spain from south to north not Being caught by the fuzz. I had arround 100grams
Of rough opium. T'has night we swallowed a piece of opium and get high for all over 24 hours. This year did began my opiates addicction. I started to take half gram of opium usually every morning with empty stomach. I got plenty of rushes caused by the morphine that opium contain. The days were passing and I continue with the same mechanism, one Ball every morning before breakfast.
It gave me energy, big euphoria like a shot of any opiate. At night gave me sedation combined with THC was my prefered combo.
100 grams converted to a little piece of opium. I began to search opium everywhere, but the were no option. I became agitated and nervous. Then was sent a person to my house that obyously had Heroin...At this point
I had a girlfriend and we lived together.
Both with the same problem and there was when wee Turned to H. This guy offered some lines of a good dope and we don't doubt it and snorted some of them and It was the first time I bought H. I asked him for a dose and he told us that he could buy half gram at 40€. And we accepted. There was the H era for the couple. I can continue but I think it's too much, so I'll stop. Probably you have the second chapter if is nedded...
@Bleaney hope you understand things...
Send you lots of

Yes, Spanish pharma poppies have one of the highest morphine content and a lot of people from all over Europe came to harvest opium. But things are changing.
They used to have varieties like P. somniferum officinale and others, wich had that high morphine content and an good production of latex.
Lately, they have changed to P. somniferum nigrum (the pistils are black, not the petals). This nigrum variety, while containing still a lot of morphine, is notorious for producing very few latex, so you are better of just picking pods in a minute than to work for hours in opium harvesting, as the yield won't worth it like it used to do.
Also, after some unfortunate circunstances like an italian guy dying in the crops or a local farmer being beaten by the so called "vampiros del opio", the security of the fields has increased a lot with UVAs, more police patrols and private vigilantes (regular ones from security companies or irregular dudes, sometimes gypsy families, who you don't fancy trouble with).

 

[kongoman]

Yes, Spanish pharma poppies have one of the highest morphine content and a lot of people from all over Europe came to harvest opium. But things are changing.
They used to have varieties like P. somniferum officinale and others, wich had that high morphine content and an good production of latex.
Lately, they have changed to P. somniferum nigrum (the pistils are black, not the petals). This nigrum variety, while containing still a lot of morphine, is notorious for producing very few latex, so you are better of just picking pods in a minute than to work for hours in opium harvesting, as the yield won't worth it like it used to do.
Also, after some unfortunate circunstances like an italian guy dying in the crops or a local farmer being beaten by the so called "vampiros del opio", the security of the fields has increased a lot with UVAs, more police patrols and private vigilantes (regular ones from security companies or irregular dudes, sometimes gypsy families, who you don't fancy trouble with).

AUTHENTICAL MADAFACKERS!!!!
FUCK$$$$
You are really informated, I didn't know It. When I was on the fields was in 2000-2001.
You can imagine world is changing. I heard about this dead Italian , I think he ODed.
You have to be stupid, no common sense...
What a bad Idea this changing of poopys!!!
Well you always can collect the poopys head but It's much more volume to transport....
Have you been in the fields?
Have a nice day or night!!
Brother send you positive vibez...

 

[TheUltimateFixx]

AUTHENTICAL MADAFACKERS!!!!
FUCK$$$$
You are really informated, I didn't know It. When I was on the fields was in 2000-2001.
You can imagine world is changing. I heard about this dead Italian , I think he ODed.
You have to be stupid, no common sense...
What a bad Idea this changing of poopys!!!
Well you always can collect the poopys head but It's much more volume to transport....
Have you been in the fields?
Have a nice day or night!!
Brother send you positive vibez...

I have been growing my own poppies for several years now so I know their strength and can dose with consistency. I grow 2 varieties, both are high-alkaloid commercial strains and NO obviously I did not acquire them legally, and also NO as much as I'd like to I can't give any fellow enthusiasts any definite pointers here, as this would violate rules.

.. All I can say is if you're after opium, either find a reliable source or go the DIY route (if you don't mind the ton of extra work involved).

 

[kongoman]

I have been growing my own poppies for several years now so I know their strength and can dose with consistency. I grow 2 varieties, both are high-alkaloid commercial strains and NO obviously I did not acquire them legally, and also NO as much as I'd like to I can't give any fellow enthusiasts any definite pointers here, as this would violate rules.

.. All I can say is if you're after opium, either find a reliable source or go the DIY route (if you don't mind the ton of extra work involved).

Excuse me but my english is not perfect.
I don't know what's DIY route, could you give more info about that?
Have you IVed Opium? It's my dream, cause when I had opium I wasn't on needles and now It's difficult to buy, It's very rare.
I probably can buy soon so It make me happy.
How many poopies did you grow? How much opium did you obtain?
Thanks in advance for your reply.
Kisses brother

 

[TheUltimateFixx]

Excuse me but my english is not perfect.
I don't know what's DIY route, could you give more info about that?

By this I simply mean cultivating your own opium.

Have you IVed Opium?

No ; and I wouldn't see the point of it. I either smoke my opium in a traditional pipe, or I dissolve it in ethanol to make the tincture which used to be known as laudanum.

It's my dream, cause when I had opium I wasn't on needles and now It's difficult to buy, It's very rare.
I probably can buy soon so It make me happy.

Stick to poppy tea or poppy extract. It'll do what you want it to do.

How many poopies did you grow? How much opium did you obtain?

Average of 250 poppy plants; and in even the best harvest season not more than single grams of raw latex.

Thanks in advance for your reply.
Kisses brother

 

[kongoman]

By this I simply mean cultivating your own opium.

No ; and I wouldn't see the point of it. I either smoke my opium in a traditional pipe, or I dissolve it in ethanol to make the tincture which used to be known as laudanum.

Stick to poppy tea or poppy extract. It'll do what you want it to do.

Average of 250 poppy plants; and in even the best harvest season not more than single grams of raw latex.

I've never cultivated opium and It's a thing I'd love to do. Last year I was googling for poopie seeds but I doubted and finally didn't buy It. I live with my parents and they wouldn't accept poopies in the garden shiit!!
They have no tolerance to any drug, alcohol the only one.
I read a completar of years ago that to smoke opium you have to make a process with It.
I can't remember but It was not easy to do. It was a process that changed the properties of opium. It's like chinese people smoked. Now I can't find the word to explain it better, nor in spanish. Ay,Ay,Ay so much medication in my brain...
I read about laudanum, It was sold in all pharmacies in the world, I guess. It has to be powerfull, It's like that? It is a painkiller?
I know that works for diarrhea.
250 plants WoW! Not that bad!! How did you make the cutts?
Brother what I can send u?hahaha
Send U lots of laugh,or laughing whathever you want!

 

[Bleaney]

I can just tell they aint cut out for the gear life one bit.
Some people are & go to it like an Anthropologist does to a tribe in the Amazon, others just aren't made for it.

I completely agree with you on this. I think it was a lucky escape for me that heroin didn't do it for me, trying it as I did, during a chaotic and low point of my life.

I've found that I like a great deal of stability, security, predictability, order and routine in life. I absolutely would not be suited to the exact opposite of all of that, which the roller coaster life of a full time and long term heroin user seems to entail.

However, sometimes I do like to mix it up and get out of the routine headspace and enjoy the feeling of losing control, which is where things like GBL (and all the other substances that do work for my brain chemistry) come in..

 

[acieed_ed]

I don't think you're cut out for h unless you know the streets

 

[Bleaney]

I don't think you're cut out for h unless you know the streets

Yeah true, I have some street wise about me, but I admit that scoring h on the streets is out of my experience. I could probably learn the ropes if I was to buddy up with an experienced user. I've seen street deals taking place many times on my travels around this city. Looks pretty easy, but I'm sure a rookie would be sniffed out and I'd get burned a lot. Or worse. In the beginning. Not for me.

 

[acieed_ed]

Yeah true, I have some street wise about me, but I admit that scoring h on the streets is out of my experience. I could probably learn the ropes if I was to buddy up with an experienced user. I've seen street deals taking place so many times on my travels around this city. Looks pretty easy, but I'm sure a rookie would be sniffed out and I'd get burned a lot. Or worse. In the beginning. Not for me.

Take my advice avoid at all costs being serious

 

[Señor Moreno]

AUTHENTICAL MADAFACKERS!!!!
FUCK$$$$
You are really informated, I didn't know It. When I was on the fields was in 2000-2001.
You can imagine world is changing. I heard about this dead Italian , I think he ODed.
You have to be stupid, no common sense...
What a bad Idea this changing of poopys!!!
Well you always can collect the poopys head but It's much more volume to transport....
Have you been in the fields?
Have a nice day or night!!
Brother send you positive vibez...

Kongo, perdona tío que me olvidé de contestar!

No, I never have been myself at the fields and I regret it a lot. The few information I may have about size of crops, varieties and yields is due to reading reports in agronomic and forestal industrial production, as that is my background.
Oh, and they not only have fields in Andalucía today, they also have them in both Castillas, Rioja, Álava... But I have a bad feeling about the future of this industry. Poppy fields are a monopoly, only the company Alcaliber can grow them. This company belonged to the Abelló family since its creation 50 years ago, and prior to that they had the turkish opium importing monopoly since 1930s. Well, they have sold it to a british investment group two years ago. That family know fully well what are they doing and if they sold it (and moved onto medical cannabis) it has to be for a very good reason. I think the rise of shitty sinthetics like fent or tramadol, along with the US anti opioid hysteria, will fuck the industry of natural opiates sooner or later.

You said you live in Cataluña, do you still have that white heroin all over the place?
It allways amazed me that while the rest of Spain and Europe only had brown gear, you went to Barcelona and all you could find was white... Is it still like that??

 

[Pissed_and_messed]

I haven't drawn a line to injecting into vein or muscle, I just loathe the idea, I don't need to.

 

[Pissed_and_messed]

Which has the downside that I am convinced that best way to hole with k is IM route so I am yet to have the intention to snort massive line that makes me sniffle obstructed nostril for two days.

 

[kongoman]

Kongo, perdona tío que me olvidé de contestar!

No, I never have been myself at the fields and I regret it a lot. The few information I may have about size of crops, varieties and yields is due to reading reports in agronomic and forestal industrial production, as that is my background.
Oh, and they not only have fields in Andalucía today, they also have them in both Castillas, Rioja, Álava... But I have a bad feeling about the future of this industry. Poppy fields are a monopoly, only the company Alcaliber can grow them. This company belonged to the Abelló family since its creation 50 years ago, and prior to that they had the turkish opium importing monopoly since 1930s. Well, they have sold it to a british investment group two years ago. That family know fully well what are they doing and if they sold it (and moved onto medical cannabis) it has to be for a very good reason. I think the rise of shitty sinthetics like fent or tramadol, along with the US anti opioid hysteria, will fuck the industry of natural opiates sooner or later.

You said you live in Cataluña, do you still have that white heroin all over the place?
It allways amazed me that while the rest of Spain and Europe only had brown gear, you went to Barcelona and all you could find was white... Is it still like that??

I didnt know that alcaliber moved to cannabis, but hospitals and lots of people continue needing morphine, codeine, tebaine and others alcaloids of opium. I dont know if the natural opiates Will be fucked by the opioid hysteria like you call it. Here fent has no arrived, as I can know.
Ánd yes we have White heroin but also Brown, it depends of the batch. I'm taking only dope occasionaly so im little bit out.
But you are allright I bougth tons of White H in Barcelona.
Hermano espero estés bien.
Te mando un abrazo fuerte