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Injecting (IV) 4-FMA (or 4-FA) ?

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Hi

I recently came across a source for 4-FMA (4-flouromethamphetamine) and of course 4-FA (4-flouroamphetamine) has been widely available for some time now.

I initially suspected 4-FA to be damaging and/or painful if IV'ed because of the relatively large amount of powder used and reports of harsh burning when insufflated.

However, Ive heard the dose for 4-FMA to be significantly smaller than 4-FA, at only about 10 - 20mg (?), so I was thinking about trying an IV dose starting at 1mg and titrating upwards to around 5 - 10mg.

Dose anyone have experience or information on the safety / doability of injecting 4-FMA (and/or 4-FA)?
 
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If anything I would start very small, after much research....if you can find it.. :\

Anyone else care to chime in here? I am interested in this as well..
 
There aren't all that many people who go around shooting RC's. The IV drug users seem to go for the old classics (opiates, meth, coke).

Do start by getting a feel for it insufflated first, before you start shooting it.
 
I've IV'd a number of RC's, especially MDPV, but I have no experience with 4-fa or 4-fma by any ROA. Curious how this works out.
 
i got a couple g's of it and have been wondering, i've banged pv a couple times and it's fuckin weird,
i prefered the 4fa anyway, already shot some pv couple hours ago so its gonna be a dose much less than 150mg mabye not even half just to try and pretend to play it on the safe side......
reporting to duty asap,will update
 
cleaner rush than pv, kinda mellowing for me, been up all week, sniffin,basin,shootin, various stimulant rc's, i wonder why anyone would shoot meth, it's bound to pseudo-ephedrine based,cooked up god knows how and i doubt even half the molecules convert,so your basically iving
a racemic mixture of meth, pseudeph,and whatever reactants the cook was to lazy to wash off.
but 4-fa iv still nothin to write home about
 
There's something I've been pondering, maybe some of our more biochemically versed members could help me out: The reason i haven't tried to inject 4-FA yet is that it burns like a thousand suns when snorted, and I'm afraid I'd experience that same level of pain in my veins.

Maybe someone could be nice enough to explain to this simple journeyman a.) why that stuff hurts my nasal mucosa so much, b.) if it would hurt the same if injected and c.) if no, why?

Thanks a lot in advance :)

EDIT: I just went ahead and tried it.

I mixed 50mg(+/-5) of 4-FA with 1,5ml of saline solution - the substance dissolved almost instantly, but I added a bit of heat and stirring just to make sure. Drew the liquid into a syringe through a 0,2µm filter and injected into my arm.

A few seconds after the injection, I felt a bit of heat and pain around the puncture, and braced for a massive dose of ouch - but it faded a few seconds later, and then it hit me.

A strong, yet gentle push, rushing through me, subsiding a bit, then coming back in an even bigger wave. My pupils are gigantic, and my head feels light - there's some slight pressure in my stomach and my fingers are a bit cold, but otherwise, I feel fantastic. Fast, focused, calm and optimistic.

I'll add to this entry if something changes.

EDIT: A little over 3 hours after injecting, the effects are almost gone. No crash, a slight craving to redose, but manageable.
 
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kewagi said:
There's something I've been pondering, maybe some of our more biochemically versed members could help me out: The reason i haven't tried to inject 4-FA yet is that it burns like a thousand suns when snorted, and I'm afraid I'd experience that same level of pain in my veins.

Maybe someone could be nice enough to explain to this simple journeyman a.) why that stuff hurts my nasal mucosa so much, b.) if it would hurt the same if injected and c.) if no, why?

Thanks a lot in advance :)

EDIT: I just went ahead and tried it.

I mixed 50mg(+/-5) of 4-FA with 1,5ml of saline solution - the substance dissolved almost instantly, but I added a bit of heat and stirring just to make sure. Drew the liquid into a syringe through a 0,2µm filter and injected into my arm.

A few seconds after the injection, I felt a bit of heat and pain around the puncture, and braced for a massive dose of ouch - but it faded a few seconds later, and then it hit me.

A strong, yet gentle push, rushing through me, subsiding a bit, then coming back in an even bigger wave. My pupils are gigantic, and my head feels light - there's some slight pressure in my stomach and my fingers are a bit cold, but otherwise, I feel fantastic. Fast, focused, calm and optimistic.

I'll add to this entry if something changes.

EDIT: A little over 3 hours after injecting, the effects are almost gone. No crash, a slight craving to redose, but manageable.
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Thank you for providing a report! Its very valuable to me. Are you still around?

How was the euphoria? Present? Intense? Adderall-like/MDMA-like/etc?

Thanks.
 
IV 4-fma produced a fast hard rush with equal amounts of paranoia and euphoria..

i actually got pretty attached to it going through almost 10g over several weeks

From 50mg to 150-200mg is about as far as i went.. but i may have had cut stuff because other people report 50mg being a fairly heavy dose.. while for me it was pretty benign.

After about 30 mins you're back down to a baseline stimulation and feeling like another shot...
 
Sweet thanks man, its appreciated. I think I'm going to give this a shot (pun intended ;)) soon.
 
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