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Injecting H without cooking it?

DMont

DMont

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I've used heroin for over a year now, (black tar from Denver) and always just dissolved it in water without cooking it. I know I sound like a complete dumbass, but is that really bad? The thing is that even using daily for over a year I've never gotten a bad infection from it or anything? So is there still a major reason I should be cooking it?
 
you are risking infection by doing that, but if it works for you then it works... right?
 
so I don't mean to downplay the importance of infection prevention, and in fact i think I'll start cooking it for just that reason, but just to clarify, that is the only reason? It doesn't make it more potent or anything? And not to totally start a new subject but what about mixing meth and H in the same shot? Is that safe (if done in safe quanities?)
 
Most people do not disinfect by cooking. You would need to sustain a complete boil to really disinfect through heat. Some people need to do it to get their dope into solution faster, others do it more as a ritual, but if you think you are sterilizing it with a few seconds of flame, you're only kidding yourself.
 
^ yeah, people do the same thing with piercings. kids think that if they run a sewing needle through a flame for a minute then the needle is sterile. the only way to sterilize piercing equipment is using an autoclave.
 
DonkeyPunch said:
^ yeah, people do the same thing with piercings. kids think that if they run a sewing needle through a flame for a minute then the needle is sterile. the only way to sterilize piercing equipment is using an autoclave.
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That seems strange. How is the 120-130 degrees heat provide by an autoclave going to kill more bacteria than the 500 degree + of a butane flame? I'm not saying you're wrong, it just doesn't seem right to me.
 
Um, with powedered heroin I have often seen it done to no ill effect but you are talking about some rough material. I would not do tar [if given a choice] much less inject it without some sort of hygienic preperation. Heating heroin, much to most people's disbelief, is not to purify it in any way, but rather to help any patriculate dissolve. How much particulate in tar do you think will dissolve without additional heat? There is your answer.




[Edited because of more evidence that English is not my first language]
 
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omen_owen mk2 said:
That seems strange. How is the 120-130 degrees heat provide by an autoclave going to kill more bacteria than the 500 degree + of a butane flame? I'm not saying you're wrong, it just doesn't seem right to me.
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Pressured heat and long heating time?
 
the only reason most people cook tar is help it dissolve. i think it takes some of the cut out but i'm not sure.

so if your heroin is dissolving without heat i don't think it's that big of a deal. It's how I'd do dope up east, just let it dissolve in a spoon and filter. just as long as your filtering . that's really what you need to be doing.
 
how bad is it to take a shot or two over the course of 12 hours 3 bags in each shot, no filtering or heating??
im saying like a once in a lifetime thing, say u had no way of filtering and were desperate....

east coast tan dope #4 btw
 
omen_owen mk2 said:
That seems strange. How is the 120-130 degrees heat provide by an autoclave going to kill more bacteria than the 500 degree + of a butane flame? I'm not saying you're wrong, it just doesn't seem right to me.
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Hahaha, autoclaves operate at 121* CELSIUS generally you dumb fuck. That's around 250*F. Also, when using an autoclave, the object is usually in there for much longer, with water, and pressure. Moist heat sterilizes much better than dry heat. Pay more attention in your (micro)biology class ;)

He's saying that autoclaves are used for a while, while most kids run a needle through a flame for a few seconds.
 
ktx49 said:
how bad is it to take a shot or two over the course of 12 hours 3 bags in each shot, no filtering or heating??
im saying like a once in a lifetime thing, say u had no way of filtering and were desperate....

east coast tan dope #4 btw
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I'd say it's a stupid ass thing to do. how hard is it to find a ciggy filter or cotton??? come on man.

i can understand to some degree though. i've done some far worst shit than not filtering. ughh, makes me cringe.
 
It's fine, you are still alive, just hope it doesn't come back to haunt you.
 
Okay you can defend not cooking it, i've never cooked my gear..except a few times adding a lil heat to help dissolve. There is no way however that you can defend not using a filter. Thats just plain common sense.
 
ok ok i only skipped filtering the first time!

second and third shot i used a q-tip
 
Well, if you use common sense you will figure out that using either a cotton thread [like from a sock] or a cigarette filter will not filter much of anything out anyway, so if you skipped doing it one or two times, no real harm should befall you. However...this is a harm reduction site and in that vein [no pun intended] one should always microfilter their drug of choice before injection.
 
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