Inducing Sleep With a Benzo After A Trip on Psychedelics and LSD Headaches

[xTalK]

Just to give a bit of background on myself I'm very experienced with a fair few psychedelics, but tend to just stick to LSD/Shrooms. I trip both for recreation and also for the headspace that is given and for reflecting on things, etc. So tryptamines are my main choice.

Was wondering what others opinion was of inducing sleep using benzos at the very end of a trip. I sometimes used benzos in the past for anxiety during the trip, but as I've gotten older I've changed my mindset and now think it's important to deal with the experience full on and if you need a benzo then it's possible you might need to look into why. I also think that throwing a benzo in clouds the headspace to the point where you forget and don't have as positive an afterglow or the experience is very benign. I enjoy weed, but mainly use it to calm racing thoughts - sometimes I feel like I have a lot to say but cannot get it all out, plus I smoke habitually throughout the day normally.

I also try to avoid taking benzos when possible as I do get anxiety when I get into them due to rebound etc. Also due to blackouts, etc, doesn't fit with my lifestyle to be going on a blackout for 3 days in the middle of the week.

But I've noticed that I now find the LSD trip at times a bit long lasting, I cannot sleep whatsoever after taking it (or ketamine but do have habitual troubles with it) when I know others can sleep fine.

I also sometimes get headaches towards the tail end of an acid trip. Now I would normally put this towards something inside my head/ego causing it and it being underlying during the trip. However, things are very smooth in my life at the minute and I am no longer taking benzos regularly etc. I originally thought it may have been due to not wearing glasses, as my eyes were focusing more and this does help. But I'm starting to just lead it more towards the lack of sleep at the end of the trip, continued stimulation and racing head. Weed is quite good for bringing me down from this but it does not achieve sleep. This does not happen on shorter psychedelics like psilocin. The headache feels sinus'y, at times my eyes feel strained.

So what are peoples thoughts on using benzos to induce sleep and does anyone experience similar headaches and can comment. Are there any other options people know of that induce sleep in a more gentle way? Valium has too long a half life and to be honest I feel comfortable taking acid much more so than benzos. I don't want to have to be relying on taking LSD then benzos everytime I want to trip, it doesn't seem healthy mentally to me, benzos in general don't.

 

[ComfortablyNumb95]

for me melatonin + cannabis (on the comedown) induces a urge to go to sleep and a very calm slumber. I'd you throw in a benzo too and granted that you'll sleep for 12 hours (actually on this combo once I sat on the toilet to pee and woke up an hour later still sitting on the toilet)

 

[phantomcosmonaut]

I almost always use downers (alprazolam, clonazepam, valium, lorazepam, alcohol, ketamine) to sleep after a long psychedelic trip (DOC, DOB, LSD, MDA, etc). I will normally take 2mg of xanax to sleep after a trip. It never worries me, since I am only doing this very infrequently, and I don't see any risk with that. But you know your mind the best and if it seems like a risk for you then don't do it. A small amount of alcohol can be just as effective, depending on your individual reactions to it. Also ketamine puts me right to sleep without actually killing the trip, but it seems that many people have the opposite effect when they have "issues" using it.
Marijuana is my usual sleep aid when I'm not on anything else. But when tripping even after the comedown the trip comes right back and sleep is impossible. So that doesn't help at all, although I hear that most people can in fact use it to sleep after a trip.

 

[xTalK]

See I would be fine if I wasn't tripping often, but psychedelics are my DOC. I would normally trip every week or every other week. I've had enough hassles from benzos in the past and want to keep my mental health and don't think they are a good way to go about it.

Ketamine isn't an option as I already have enough issues with a skyrocket tolerance, destroyed stomach and bad tendencies with. I'm actually a bit worried about taking k sometimes with trips now as I often get much worse k cramps if I'm tripping. Alcohols too much of a depressant for me. I understand it probably sounds like I'm just being picky, but if LSD is as scientifically safe as stated I'd like to keep the experience as close to just LSD as possible. I know for a fact that if I started using benzos as a trip-end again I'll end up taking them during the weekdays too which then leads to needing them for anxiety, etc, etc. If I did guess just best to stay away from the long half life ones.

Melatonin sounds interesting though, I always found it good for 'holding' my sleep as such.