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Stimulants Incredibly Long Duration of Action

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DexWeedAndMe

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Ok, now.. could anyone explain this for me? Occasionally, when I do amphetamines (Adderall, to be precise), I will be stimulated as fuck for a good 20 hours solid. The first time I ever tried them, it was a 20 MG IR. Took me 18 hours to return to (mostly) baseline. Last night.. Pop an XR 30 at 4:30PM, then another one at 5:30PM. Here I am almost a full 24 hours away from taking my last pill, and I still couldn't sleep if I tried. It's not like it's always the case either. This is the second (out of roughly 15 total times doing Addies) time this has happened to me. Usually, I get about a good 6-10 hours of speediness, then... BOOM. Over. Yet occasionally I get a good "24 hour roll". Naturally the euphoria disappeared sometime last night. Since then it's just been stimulated zombie mode for me. Does anyone have the faintest clue what could be the source of this strange blessing?
 
Is your diet better on the days when it has lasted longer? If so that might be your answer.
 
Hm. Not as far as I notice. Yesterday I had nothing for breakfast, and then the buffet at CiCi's Pizza. Took the adds about 3 hours after I ate lunch. If anything my diet was worse. Pizza, pasta, and copious amounts of cinnamon rolls.. Yum.
 
Well, Adderall (especially Extended Release Capsules) tends to last longer due to the fact that it is a combination of D-Amphetamine (responsible for CNS stimulation) and L-Amphetamine (responsible for Peripheral Stimulation). Levoamphetamine is also slightly longer acting than Dextroamphetamine which is why with Adderall, the physical stimulation far exceeds the Euphoria/CNS effects (as opposed to say, Dexadrine and Vyvanse).

Also, I'm wondering, I know you mentioned only using amphetamine around 15 times total, but in the past week, have you used it more than this one day when you took the 60mg XR capsules?

Also, what type of foods and/or supplements & OTC medications have you taken within the past 48 hours? Certain foods, medications and supplements can inhibit the metabolism of the drug, causing a longer duration of effect.
 
seems strange to me to be honest. i've never experienced such a long high from a single dose. perhaps your body doesn't excrete amphetamines as quickly as a regular system does. do you take any other medications or supplements daily?

which other amphetamines have you tried apart from adderall?

when i tried adderall (i'm quite used to amphetamines, i take them daily for ADHD - 40mg dexedrine a day) i experienced a 3-4 hour robotic phase, and then an excruciating comedown.

perhaps as its the first few times you're taking amphetamines you're going to experience longer highs for the time being. as you start to build up more tolerance and take them on more occasions the blessing you call it may dissipate.

do you smoke cigarettes/consume a lot of caffeinated beverages?

have you done any other stimulants before apart from adderral? (MDMA?)
 
I've never tested this myself but academic sources I've looked at indicate a significantly longer half-life with an alkaline diet. Twice as long as in those with an acidic blood pH I believe, but could be wrong.
 
Nope j Brandon you're absolutely correct. An Alkaline diet increases amphetamine concentrations in the blood for an extended period of time as it is not excreted as readily as a person on a more acidic diet.
 
Also, certain antidepressants (Citalopram for one) will definitely increase the effects of amphetamines, though I don't know what effect it or any other AD med might have on duration of effects.
 
Citalopram does increase the effects - but also vastly lowers seizure threshold with amphetmaines. I've witnessed a guy seize after taking 5mg of dex (first time) and he'd been on citalopram for about 6 months. Was fucking horrifying.
 
JBrandon said:
I've never tested this myself but academic sources I've looked at indicate a significantly longer half-life with an alkaline diet. Twice as long as in those with an acidic blood pH I believe, but could be wrong.
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On this same note, if you take antacids, Proton Pump Inhibitors, H2 antagonists, or eat anything else that makes your pH more basic, then not only will initial amphetamine absorption be increased, but it will remain in the blood longer as it re-enters circulation more efficiently through the enterohepatic cycle (iirc), instead of being recycled out of the bloodstream via the hepatic portal vein (iirc).
 
If I take a solid dose of D-amp, I'm pretty much high for a day....I usually do 50 mgs of D-amp on the first dose....Yes, I'm a druggie.....I've had crystal that kept me high for damn near 2 days from a single dose...whether it makes sense or not, I don't know...
Just my subjective experience...
 
Well, this is awesome. I lost what I was typing a few hours ago, but it was backed up. Awesome. So.. here's some shit I typed a few hours ago.
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Hm. Based on the opinions presented by everyone, I am leaning towards an alkaline diet being a contributing factor. Though i still remain unsure overall. It's strange. That was the second time that has happened to me. But it beat out the previous champ by about 3 hours. I shit you not, because even i find it unbelievable, but i was up all night, got up, went to class, trying beforehand to determine whether or not a comedown was likely within the next 3-4 hours, halfway hoping it wouldnt hit me in class, because I'm failing the course and the professor is a real dick. Hence the amphetamines. Yet also halfway welcoming the comedown. Class ends, I get home around 2:00. All throughout class my leg was bouncing incessantly, my hands were tapping things. I get home, feeling less physically stimulated but still WELL beyond the ability to even think about sleep. Then, because I tend to be a tad irresponsible with amps, i wait until around 3:15 (this afternoon) and pop one. For what reason, I'm not really sure.. recreation, i suppose.

Then it cut out on me. But since then, I have began the descent. I'm tired, hungry, and probably just the slightest bit dehydrated. Today's gonna be a bastard.

On another note.. Does anyone know of any correlation between amphetamines and visuals? I mean, we're talking straight 25I/LSD visuals. Breathing grass, moving pattern in wood grain, a truck getting really big then really small and fluxuating back and forth. I'm not sure whether to chalk it up to sleep deprivation (only a little over 36 hours, wouldn't really call that deprivation), or maybe some sort of side-effect of the drastic amounts of psychedelics which I consumed this past summer. Either way, I mean.. it's free visuals. Just really, really, really creepy.
 
^Oh amphetamines and sleep deprivation will give you visuals! But the whole "breathing and waving" thing is really characteristic of LSD and not really the same kind of visuals I get from speed....with ampheymaines, it's more like your mind playing tricks on you, things looking or sounding like something else, a sock may look like a rat, a road sign looks like a person, the refrigerator humming sounds like a radio station playing strange music, stuff like that...
 
Yeah, it was pretty strange. Yesterday i couldnt help but wonder if i was having a flashback, haha. Im noticing a lot of things moving in the periphrial of my vision. I chalk that up to amps and a lack of sleep. I dunno. I think after these are gone, I'm done with the speed for awhile. I honestly just feel like i've been tripping for two days straight. Strange how your favorite substances can turn on ya. With that, i say.. yay weed!
 
DexWeedAndMe said:
Yeah, it was pretty strange. Yesterday i couldnt help but wonder if i was having a flashback, haha. Im noticing a lot of things moving in the periphrial of my vision. I chalk that up to amps and a lack of sleep. I dunno. I think after these are gone, I'm done with the speed for awhile. I honestly just feel like i've been tripping for two days straight. Strange how your favorite substances can turn on ya. With that, i say.. yay weed!
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cats. i see cats. the more days i stay up, the more cats there are.
and they're always fuckin' with my shoes....
 
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