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Venting Incels

Look we have many problems that are causing this issue.
Mostly the loss of real Father figure in young men’s lives as well as Mother.
This is tragic.

Add in the severed ties with humanity.
Compiter, virtual reality land.
People thinking instant gratification is the way when it is NOT.

Respect, Breeding Rights have ALWAYS had to be EARNED.
It is a high price also.
Some not knowing even where to begin.
 
Painful One said:
Look we have many problems that are causing this issue.
Mostly the loss of real Father figure in young men’s lives as well as Mother.
This is tragic.

Add in the severed ties with humanity.
Compiter, virtual reality land.
People thinking instant gratification is the way when it is NOT.

Respect, Breeding Rights have ALWAYS had to be EARNED.
It is a high price also.
Some not knowing even where to begin.
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Well a guy has to earn it, true.

If this is a real thing, and I believe you, I just haven't researched it yet, it's most definitely been caused by how bad males are actually treated by society, and I agree with you that this should be discussed like adults, instead of making the situation even worse
 
December Flower said:
2020 in Hanau Germany was a racist who killed only Ausländer.
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His manifesto indicated some pretty strong beliefs in incel topics.
"The manifesto also included racist and paranoid writings, where Rathjen called for the extermination of non-white people and claimed he had not had a relationship with a woman because the government had been monitoring him."

Regardless, you are correct in that there is some debate regarding him being an incel vs. just being radicalized into a different online bigoted ideology that also preys on young lonely men who lack father figures.
 
arrall said:
His manifesto indicated some pretty strong beliefs in incel topics.
"The manifesto also included racist and paranoid writings, where Rathjen called for the extermination of non-white people and claimed he had not had a relationship with a woman because the government had been monitoring him."

Regardless, you are correct in that there is some debate regarding him being an incel vs. just being radicalized into a different online bigoted ideology that also preys on young lonely men who lack father figures.
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That's incorrect, though. I follow German news very closely, because I have to read the newspaper to some of my patients.
Also they got the names mixed up. Rathje is a right-extremism-specialist who studied the killers psyche, he was not the killer.
That's Jan Rathje, he's a political scientist not a mass murderer. Rofl

The killer's name was never given to the public in full, which is a standard procedure in Germany, as my country protects these kinds of people from the public. Only "Tobias R.", is all we ever got,
and as far as I've read, his videos and manifests were anti-semitic, anti-muslim and was described by Wehrhahn as the "classical neo-nazi thought-pattern". I mean Nazis are also misogynistic, kind of a given, but he was pretty much all about Rassenhass.
 
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December Flower said:
This must be the most fucked up thread you have made.
Lemme shame people that were already shamed by society and given such a fucked up name,
and shame them even more for retaliating after being given such a fucked up name.

males are treated so shitty by our society, srsly shame for shaming these poor fucks
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If I can RISE from total disability status, you can most certainly RISE from incel status.

It is not impossible.
Maybe I should start rehabilitation courses for men in this category.

I am not being mean.
This Life, This Universe is hard.

Maybe some time to grow yourself as a male is what you need.
Alone!
 
I honestly don't understand how anyone can be an 'incel'. Even if you have the ugliest mug on the planet, scrape together $2-500 and cruise sex worker sites until you find a chick you like. Then give her said money, and sex will occur lol. It's real easy.

If you're an 'incel' because you want a girl to have a connection with you on top of wanting sex well then I guess you need to figure out why women won't connect with you on an emotional level.

I'm not the handsomest of guys but I pulled plenty in my youth. Men have to learn when to move on. Pitting all your sexual desires on one woman you obsess over who doesn't really know you is inevitably going to lead to involuntary abstinence 😐
 
Painful One said:
If I can RISE from total disability status, you can most certainly RISE from incel status.

It is not impossible.
Maybe I should start rehabilitation courses for men in this category.

I am not being mean.
This Life, This Universe is hard.

Maybe some time to grow yourself as a male is what you need.
Alone!
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wut? this is some kind of misunderstanding

i just feel bad for males who are being shamed for having no sexual intercourse.

i didn't know this was some civil mass murder organisation of lonely farts

i'm a musician, lol, i probably have diseases :dead:
 
@December Flower - hi, I'm a male, interested to hear what you think about males having it worse.

I don't disagree, nor do I agree - but I do think as this conversation develops I may have some interesting insight/further questions.

My gut feeling is females have it worse
 
Cream Gravy? said:
I honestly don't understand how anyone can be an 'incel'. Even if you have the ugliest mug on the planet, scrape together $2-500 and cruise sex worker sites until you find a chick you like. Then give her said money, and sex will occur lol. It's real easy.

If you're an 'incel' because you want a girl to have a connection with you on top of wanting sex well then I guess you need to figure out why women won't connect with you on an emotional level.

I'm not the handsomest of guys but I pulled plenty in my youth. Men have to learn when to move on. Pitting all your sexual desires on one woman you obsess over who doesn't really know you is inevitably going to lead to involuntary abstinence 😐
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They view sex with a prostitute as filthy and beneath them

That's one of the great ironies about them, they're hurt due to how they perceive judgemental women treating them, yet they are sooooooo judgemental in many ways
 
saucygirl said:
@December Flower - hi, I'm a male, interested to hear what you think about males having it worse.

I don't disagree, nor do I agree - but I do think as this conversation develops I may have some interesting insight/further questions.

My gut feeling is females have it worse
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We all have our own Challenges.
Every One of Us!

Let’s not turn this into a “who has it worse” match.

I see your inner child has come out and that is not a bad thing.
It is okay. Just fine. - That little sentence there was directed to @saucygirl just to clarify.

When we will stop this battle of the sex’s?
We should work together.
Males have so many awesome and amazing, wonderful qualities.
Females have their own certain kind of magic.
Females were created to be a help that is MEET (equal and complimentary) to Males.
We are all reflections of The Whole.
That is what Angels are The Whole of both sides of ourselves in Harmony and Synergy.
That is whom we are all meant to become.

Some are old souls.
Some are new and inexperienced.

Instead of “incels” I see it as Young Souls, The Inexperienced.
All of us have been there.
We were just called nerd or goon in my day.

We are all growing and that is Great!
Everyone is at their own level.
But, we weren’t babied.
Sometimes a little tough love is useful.
Get’s The Warrior in all of us fired up.

❤️you all, no matter your level. It’s alright just grow in the correct manner.
anything that causes you to feel hate in your heart is the wrong way.
Love is the answer.
Always follow Love.
It has never steered me wrong.

PEACE Everyone.
 
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Anyway, wondering what DF was thinking of. I stated it broadly as "males having it worse". Obviously it's not that simple.
 
Burnt Offerings said:
They view sex with a prostitute as filthy and beneath them

That's one of the great ironies about them, they're hurt due to how they perceive judgemental women treating them, yet they are sooooooo judgemental in many ways
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Well, yeah that's just oxymoronical. I've felt pretty bruised by the way some women have treated me, years ago, but you have to grow and move on. Find someone who you love and who can love you back. With all this technology and dating applications it shouldn't be so hard to find love anymore... or at least I would hope not. I'm glad I found love but it sure as hell took a lot of work and a lot of time and commitment.
 
saucygirl said:
@December Flower - hi, I'm a male, interested to hear what you think about males having it worse.

I don't disagree, nor do I agree - but I do think as this conversation develops I may have some interesting insight/further questions
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sure

males do the worst jobs, hands down. construction work, garbage collection, etc.
yes, there are women in these jobs, but the number is infinitesimal in comparison.

if a male calls too much he is clingy. if he doesn't call enough, he is an ass

male's are expected to be providers. if they cannot provide, they are seen as failures.

when a male tells his friends about his new girlfriend, his friends ask "what does she look like?"
when a female tells her friends about her new boyfriend, her friends ask "what does he do?"

men are taught to be ashamed of their primitive and yes very sexualised nature.

offering to lift something heavy or to open a door for a woman can be seen as sexist,
yet not offering help can be seen as being an inconsiderate jerk.

a male complimenting a woman can be seen as a pervert, while not complimenting can be seen as an asshole

this last one is pretty edgy but in my defense I heard the argument from a woman first:
if a woman claims rape she is almost automatically believed and can deeply ruin a man's life if she wants to

it's not easy being male

saucygirl said:
Anyway, wondering what DF was thinking of. I stated it broadly as "males having it worse". Obviously it's not that simple.
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it's a forum not instant messaging.
Ein alter Mann ist kein D-Zug
 
December Flower said:
sure

males do the worst jobs, hands down. construction work, garbage collection, etc.
yes, there are women in these jobs, but the number is infinitesimal in comparison.

if a male calls too much he is clingy. if he doesn't call enough, he is an ass

male's are expected to be providers. if they cannot provide, they are seen as failures.

when a male tells his friends about his new girlfriend, his friends ask "what does she look like?"
when a female tells her friends about her new boyfriend, her friends ask "what does he do?"

men are taught to be ashamed of their primitive and yes very sexualised nature.

offering to lift something heavy or to open a door for a woman can be seen as sexist,
yet not offering help can be seen as being an inconsiderate jerk.

a male complimenting a woman can be seen as a pervert, while not complimenting can be seen as an asshole

this last one is pretty edgy but in my defense I heard the argument from a woman first:
if a woman claims rape she is almost automatically believed and can deeply ruin a man's life if she wants to

it's not easy being male


it's a forum not instant messaging.
Ein alter Mann ist kein D-Zug
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Okay, thanks.

Yes both genders have their struggles.

I would cation people to shame any gender for things that society may have conditioned them to act as.

We all have our limits. And a lot of standards are not natural to our instincts.
 
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