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In your opinion, what is the best MDMA combo w/ an RC?

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Paradisum

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Hey guys,

So I dont know if I can always find my friend LUCY in time for raves so If contact is hard for her, since she is such a busy bee, I wanna have a back up chica for my all nighters. Any recommendations? What do you guys find a social/visual/ easy on the body but good energy type of Research Chemical. Tell me your stories, I am very interested.


THanks! =D
 
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I've only mixed MDMA with 2c-e for the first time just recently, and it's now my favorite rave combo.. trippy, feels like you're rolling, somewhat speedy too, but not in a bad way. I took a relatively low amount of MDMA compared to when I eat only MDMA by itself when I combined it with 2c-e, but it was a heft dose of 2c-e (~20mg). I already plan on doing it for EDC Dallas, this time with more MDMA. Dancing and having a great time while tripping balls and having one of the most amazing body highs ever *****

just imagine rolling intensely, and speedy somewhat at the same time, but it's not a bad feeling of speed like meth. It's definitely enhanced by the 2c-e. The trippyness of the 2c-e is extremely secretory and of the senses, everything feels extremely hightened, like a fucking cat or something. The body high is amazing. You could fuck the piss out of something to, if I don't mind saying. It's very sexual. It's just a bad ass combination.
 
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I had a good time with 2c-b and MDMA.
I haven't tried combining any other RC with MDMA but I would imagine that a nice dose of 4-aco-dmt would be nice with a good dose of molly :D
 
i don't know 2ce can bring a serious bodyload. 2cd is tamer and i think probably a better option for a public event. of course you can always just try both combos...
 
With the two times I"ve done 2c-e, once by itself, the other with MDMA, I never got a serious body load. I took a bendaryl 10 minutes before dosing the 2c-e dissolved in water each time i tripped though, because i've read that it helps with nausea, body load, and other negative side effects. i haven't had any negative side effects thus far, so i'm gonna stick with what i'm doing. the body high can be intense sometimes, but it's never in a bad way. it always feels amazing, similar to rolling, even when not taken with mdma
 
teh1buck said:
With the two times I"ve done 2c-e, once by itself, the other with MDMA, I never got a serious body load. I took a bendaryl 10 minutes before dosing the 2c-e dissolved in water each time i tripped though, because i've read that it helps with nausea, body load, and other negative side effects. i haven't had any negative side effects thus far, so i'm gonna stick with what i'm doing. the body high can be intense sometimes, but it's never in a bad way. it always feels amazing, similar to rolling, even when not taken with mdma
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let's just keep in mind for everyone here though that this is by no means a statement that terrible bodyload on 2c-e isn't possible. Because it is, lol. I have preloaded with benadryl plenty of times, doesn't stop my particularly retarded bodyload from 2c-e from occurring every time without fail.

Personally I think 2c-e sounds like the best 2c flip. However, I wouldn't suggest it to someone without making sure that they're aware the bodyload can be crippling on 2c-e alone and combining with MDMA will probably only increase this... it might not be best to try the combination for the first time in a public place.

As for what OP should do, I'd imagine both 2c-b and 2c-i would be fairly recreational and fun. 2c-i might give a bit of a bodyload... certainly not like 2c-e though. 2c-d I'm sure also has potential, 2c-c seems a bit lax for the occasion though...

dont take mdma in combination with the 2c-t-x family, I'm pretty sure? Remember reading about possible MAOI activity with 2c-t-7 at least, and that is just asking for serotonin syndrome with MDMA (as I recall one of the more publicized 2c-t-7 deaths was from insufflation plus MDMA?)
 
MDMA + Methylone would probably be a very nice combo, I am going to try it in two weeks.

I think MDMA + 4 Aco DMT would also be a lot of fun. Hopefully, I will be trying this combo soon.
 
I always enjoyed 2C-I+MDMA. Good mindset, intense visuals, good times. I had a panic attack on 2c-e/mdma but it was a lot of molly, i blame the mdma more so.
 
i am op

Awesome!

Thanks guys, real good help here. I do find 2c-e a bit overwhelming in stimulation, couldn't see dancing on it with how stiff it makes me.


I DO have some 4-aco-dmt but have heard that its not a good mix, yet you guys advise different. Id imagine it would be similar to hippyflipping.


The lighter 2c's seem nice, anyone ever try with 2c-c or 2c-d? I've only tried 2c-c but not with mdma.

Any other reccomendations?
 
Paradisum said:
Awesome!

Thanks guys, real good help here. I do find 2c-e a bit overwhelming in stimulation, couldn't see dancing on it with how stiff it makes me.


I DO have some 4-aco-dmt but have heard that its not a good mix, yet you guys advise different. Id imagine it would be similar to hippyflipping.


The lighter 2c's seem nice, anyone ever try with 2c-c or 2c-d? I've only tried 2c-c but not with mdma.

Any other reccomendations?
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If you've heard that it's not good to mix the two then I wouldn't.
I made that suggestion without any background knowledge of mixing them together.
(MDMA & 4-aco-dmt)
 
One thing I can say about that is that everyone should be really careful about stimulants and DMT analogues. That includes empathogens that settle into residual stimulation after the plateau. It can make you anxious which combined with DMT analogue effects can be a recipe for seriously uncomfortable sensations.
There are a number of ways to avoid adverse interactions and it also matters which stimulant and which DMT analogue we're talking about. Cathinones are worse for instance (I'd blame the beta-hydroxy metabolites)...
 
^Added to my list of "important stuff to know" :)

I seem to remember my friend telling me not to consume any caffeine with 4-aco-dmt, he specifically mentioned that it makes for "A nasty case of paranoia". So that little bit of info confirms his warning I suppose.
 
I can't see that being the case for 4-aco-dmt though? (Assuming you're using MDMA and not some cathinone... although I DO hear good reports of M1 + 4-aco)

I mean people combine psilocin and MDMA all the time and give it rave reviews... so I can't imagine 4-aco being too different. I don't think I've ever heard of this combo being "bad" I just haven't heard anything about it at all.
 
I guess it depends. The more you take methylone and especially if you redose, the more prominent the lingering stimulation becomes and more nasty as well it seems. With methylone and 4-AcO-DMT I got a panic attack and trip to the ER because I did not trust anymore that I could continue breathing on my own (though there were other factors involved). I was hyperventilating so badly that I messed up my blood gases, the carbon dioxide gave me acidosis I think. So no I would not use methylone with any tryptamine again. But for people with little methylone experience it might not be that bad if the dose stays low.
Several different stimulants with DMT itself produced other strange results: with 4-fluoroamphetamine I got images of random concepts, objects, people, etc flashing before my eyes at a rate of 50 per second which was quite different from normal DMT trips I have had (actually cannabis has done this for me a number of times), but not really unpleasant. MDMA with DMT was nice, but it can be bad for your heart, it's not without danger (that goes for any stim + DMT). 2-fluoroamphetamine and DMT made my breathing really weird. There might be other combo's I am forgetting.

I get hyperventilation like symptoms from DMT sometimes, I forget how to breath then I catch up and overdo it, then I stop again, very erratic and it freaks me out and prevents me from having a nice experience. Stimulants make this much much worse.
 
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I guess it depends. The more you take methylone and especially if you redose, the more prominent the lingering stimulation becomes and more nasty as well it seems. With methylone and 4-AcO-DMT I got a panic attack and trip to the ER because I did not trust anymore that I could continue breathing on my own (though there were other factors involved). I was hyperventilating so badly that I messed up my blood gases, the carbon dioxide gave me acidosis I think. So no I would not use methylone with any tryptamine again. But for people with little methylone experience it might not be that bad if the dose stays low.
Several different stimulants with DMT itself produced other strange results: with 4-fluoroamphetamine I got images of random concepts, objects, people, etc flashing before my eyes at a rate of 50 per second which was quite different from normal DMT trips I have had (actually cannabis has done this for me a number of times), but not really unpleasant. MDMA with DMT was nice, but it can be bad for your heart, it's not without danger (that goes for any stim + DMT). 2-fluoroamphetamine and DMT made my breathing really weird. There might be other combo's I am forgetting.

I get hyperventilation like symptoms from DMT sometimes, I forget how to breath then I catch up and overdo it, then I stop again, very erratic and it freaks me out and prevents me from having a nice experience. Stimulants make this much much worse.
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What about MDMA and (N,N) DMT? I know that's not what this thread is about but I'm considering combining the two.
 
Solipsis said:
I guess it depends. The more you take methylone and especially if you redose, the more prominent the lingering stimulation becomes and more nasty as well it seems. With methylone and 4-AcO-DMT I got a panic attack and trip to the ER because I did not trust anymore that I could continue breathing on my own (though there were other factors involved). I was hyperventilating so badly that I messed up my blood gases, the carbon dioxide gave me acidosis I think. So no I would not use methylone with any tryptamine again. But for people with little methylone experience it might not be that bad if the dose stays low.
Several different stimulants with DMT itself produced other strange results: with 4-fluoroamphetamine I got images of random concepts, objects, people, etc flashing before my eyes at a rate of 50 per second which was quite different from normal DMT trips I have had (actually cannabis has done this for me a number of times), but not really unpleasant. MDMA with DMT was nice, but it can be bad for your heart, it's not without danger (that goes for any stim + DMT). 2-fluoroamphetamine and DMT made my breathing really weird. There might be other combo's I am forgetting.

I get hyperventilation like symptoms from DMT sometimes, I forget how to breath then I catch up and overdo it, then I stop again, very erratic and it freaks me out and prevents me from having a nice experience. Stimulants make this much much worse.
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Thanks for sharing your experiences with these particular combos, very interesting to say the least. It sounds like maybe your breathing problems are idiosyncratic/psychosomatic in part? I've certainly combined tryptamines and stimulants without any of these problems.. but everyone should be cautious, start low, and not excessively redose if combining them, I think is what we can take away from this.
 
Personally I thought it was pretty great, really loved up. But like I said it puts a strain on your heart / heartrate and blood pressure if only for a short time. Even though it was special, if you know MDMA and you know DMT, it is kind of what you would expect from the sum of them.
Doesn't make it any less awesome but basically it means I don't have a lot more to say about it.

^^^ Yes it may be true that I have contracted some sort of anxiety issue and it probably has something to do with using GHB for quite a while and quitting. It's one of the things that probably messed up my body chemistry. So that could mean you can take my advice with a grain of salt but there is still something about combining psychedelics with plain stimulants that is not okay if you ask me. Empathogens are definitely better. Methylone, while structurally MDMA-like, is really significantly more stimulating IMO.
 
i mixed 120mg mdma + 22mg 2c-b last night first time. ate the 2c on the comedown, it was like it brought the pill back up, fkn amazing, better than a candyflip imo, not so lost, more control and just feeling great.
 
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