In recovery and getting RX'd benzos?

The main question is will you abuse them and will you have access to more? Off the street or from a doc, theres trouble for ya. I would figure out something else first. If taken as prescribed just as many million? ppl do, you'll be fine. You will just have trouble if you have a script more than monthly. Trouble meaning probably for w/d feelings. I am hesitant to recommend benzos especially for a ex heroin addict. At least from what I have seen but everybody is different so you never know.

You know you will say you wont abuse them most ppl will but even recommended uses can give you more problems than there worth.

Peace,
Seedless
 
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Its not a very smart thing to do! If you can try and find a way to deal with your prolems other than Benzos. Theres other medication out there Non-Benzo that you can take.

Thats all Im saying is that your taking a HUGE risk

Theres always the exception to the rule. But I was never one of them.

My last words.. Thanks!
 
stay away from it. benzos are the main reason my life has come to a pause. you can say all you want nothing will happen but remember you were once an addict. addicts never have will power to say no and if they did i dont think you would have ever been an addict. i hope that makes since.
 
As we've seen here in this thread and the many other benzo threads, everyone who has an opinion on benzos is usually quite stuck in their view of it.
The main issue here is- Will you abuse it?
Only you can answer that b/c you know yourself better than anyone else.
But before you jump into taking benzos everyday, be honest with yourself.
Take a good look at your situation and try to be objective.
If you think there is even a slight chance that you might take more than you are prescribed, I would say look for other alternatives.
No matter what you decide, we are here to support you!
Let us know what you choose to do! <3
 
Thats insane even thinking that!

Yeah it's better to let addicts have panic attacks and anxiety. That won't lead them back to heroin...

:|

addicts never have will power to say no and if they did i dont think you would have ever been an addict. i hope that makes since.

Not everyone who were once addicted to heroin are still addicted to anything. This is a stereotype - that once you're an addict, you're always an addict.

That's just the incorrect/wrong way to look at it.

Some people will be life long addicts, yes. These people have highly addictive personalities.

KC has the power to say NO, and so do many other ex-addicts like myself.

As we've seen here in this thread and the many other benzo threads, everyone who has an opinion on benzos is usually quite stuck in their view of it.
The main issue here is- Will you abuse it?
Only you can answer that b/c you know yourself better than anyone else.
But before you jump into taking benzos everyday, be honest with yourself.
Take a good look at your situation and try to be objective.
If you think there is even a slight chance that you might take more than you are prescribed, I would say look for other alternatives.
No matter what you decide, we are here to support you!
Let us know what you choose to do! <3

Good advice, Ocean!

I would add onto this that you really will be mostly unable to know whether or not you will abuse the pills until you get a chance to.

I think it would be wise if your doctor were to give you a trial prescription, maybe something like 10 pills. If you can manage to hold onto them, and only take 1 a day, etc. then I think you won't abuse them.

If they're gone in 3 days, you may need to do weekly pick ups like P suggested, or you might want a responsible and caring parent/friend to hold onto them for you.

There are alternatives for anxiety, and they are worth looking into. I would strongly suggest trying antihistamines. Some antihistamines have great anxiolytic value (hydroxyzine), and you can use antihistamines on days you don't want to use benzos.
 
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Thank you for all the responses so far, particularly mariposa. I always appreciate how kinda and well-thought out your posts are :)

I'm not going to be seeing a psychiatrist for a few weeks, but I will definitely be honest about my use, mainly cause I already have been when they did the assessment. I do NOT want to fall back into the cycle of addiction, so if the professional says that it's not a good idea, I will try something else. If I try a few treatments that don't work, however, I will definitely ask the doctor to re-evaluate the benefits.

Thanks kc <3 In this regard at least, I'm well familiar with the risks and benefits. Overall, benzodiazepine therapy has been to my benefit as long as I do not abuse benzodiazepines. I have yet to find a study (not done by Dr. Ashton, who may or may not have a vested interest in Big Pharma and its name brand SSRIs - strong hint) that proves that SSRIs exceed benzodiazepines in treatment of panic disorder and GAD. I am certainly willing to be proven wrong, but having spoken very candidly with my own psychiatrist, benzodiazepines in low doses, not combined with other drugs or alcohol, are the most effective treatment for panic disorder that has yet been developed.

Benzodiazepines, further, have been studied since approximately the 1950s. I am working from personal recollection, but SSRIs were not on the market until the late 1980s/early 1990s. The days of benzo sensationalism are over. Doctors need to realize this. Not every 'addict' is 'addicted' to 'everything'.

I'll hedge my mental health on what is tried and true. I have been benzo-free at various points since I was diagnosed ~10 years ago and tapered safely, but ultimately I returned to benzos as I am much more functional with them than without them. I do not engage in self-destructive behavior; aside from a bit of a spotty memory (probably the worst side effect, but that could also be that I am a very busy person who is task-saturated) benzos have treated me effectively. Through psychotherapy, I have learned drug-free skills as well to deal with my anxiety and its triggers.

As PA said: not every person who goes on benzos ends up a benzo horror story.

kc - the best advice I can give is to discuss the matter with your doctor, and to read up on both sides of the issue beforehand. If you have any additional questions about my own experience, you know how to reach me.

I continue to hope whatever you decide ends up working for you.
 
All I was saying is its probably not the best idea taking something as addicting as benzos. That would be really dumb and you would find yourself in an everyday benzo routine and if not well youre lucky! Find something less enjoyable like weed or some shit ass seroquel. :)
 
Do not make personal attacks.


I would be careful who I took advice from.

If Im taking sobriety advice from someone it wouldnt be from someone with a nickname whos name was actually promoting drugs. Im not ponting this at anyone, this is just my general opinion.

Thanks
 
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Dude wtf does his name have to do with his point? Maybe he made that name when he was fucked on heroin.

Maybe benzos are the way to go, who fucking knows?

My intuition, KC, is to not take the Benzos. I don't think its a good idea to deal with our problems with drugs. Maybe taking a valium like once every 3 days is ok. Everyday though?? Nahhhhhh!! Benzos are too hard to quit hunny. Harder than heroin! :(


Ocean
great advice!! You nailed that one Sister!!
 

Judge not, lest ye be judged yourself. [Matthew 7:1]

I won't speak on CH's behalf, but he's got a lot of clean time and he knows the issues the OP is facing from sides more faceted than I can personally comprehend. Since you're not the one asking for advice here, your capacity is to act according to your beliefs and your abilities, and provide responsible advice, not to express off-topic personal commentary based on a screen name. It is not only irrelevant but counterproductive to kc's recovery and overall benefit.

kc - fuck the haters. It's a decision between you and your doctor. I know you will choose wisely.

SececaRD - so that we do not do others the discourtesy of derailing, bring it to PM if you feel the need to confront me on any of the views I have presented. Apologies also to the moderators of TDS for any temporary derailment but I literally could not let this hypocrisy stand, as kc is someone who deserves honest answers and hard data rather than digs at someone else's screen name.
 
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Yah seriously I think Captain Heroin knows the game pretty well, and I def agree with open minded approach to the benzos.

Sorry I know this is derailing, but I think its good to point out what SececaRD said wasn't really mean imo. It just was thoughtless.
 
As we've seen here in this thread and the many other benzo threads, everyone who has an opinion on benzos is usually quite stuck in their view of it.
The main issue here is- Will you abuse it?
Only you can answer that b/c you know yourself better than anyone else.
But before you jump into taking benzos everyday, be honest with yourself.
Take a good look at your situation and try to be objective.
If you think there is even a slight chance that you might take more than you are prescribed, I would say look for other alternatives.
No matter what you decide, we are here to support you!
Let us know what you choose to do! <3

why? why are these the main issues? i don't understand where you get off thinking that if you stick to whatever amount you are prescribed (which is arbitrary) you will somehow be able to avoid the damage that long term benzos often causes. especially considering prescribed benzo vary widely.

let me pose this question. who is likely to have more long term side effects and a more difficult time withdrawing? person A who takes 6 mg of clonazepam per day, every day, as prescribed, never abuses it. or person B, who is prescribed 1 mg of clonazepam per day but occasionally will abuse it and take 2 or 3 mgs for the buzz?

so, why again is whether you can stick to the prescribed dose the the determining factor here? it's not like if someone takes 2 mg of xanax a day every day they will be fine but problems start as soon as they take 2.5 mg. no, it's not like that at all.
 
I was simply stating my opinion after he took my advice completly out of context.


Mr. Heroin Sir if you read my posts I said it would be good advice to try other medications other than an addicting medication such as Xanax or other benzos. There are tons of them out there that help with anxiety.

I said nothing about makeing an addict suffer with anxiety.

And Mariposa theres a difference in Judging, and useing discernment.
 
why? why are these the main issues? i don't understand where you get off thinking that if you stick to whatever amount you are prescribed (which is arbitrary) you will somehow be able to avoid the damage that long term benzos often causes. especially considering prescribed benzo vary widely.

let me pose this question. who is likely to have more long term side effects and a more difficult time withdrawing? person A who takes 6 mg of clonazepam per day, every day, as prescribed, never abuses it. or person B, who is prescribed 1 mg of clonazepam per day but occasionally will abuse it and take 2 or 3 mgs for the buzz?

so, why again is whether you can stick to the prescribed dose the the determining factor here? it's not like if someone takes 2 mg of xanax a day every day they will be fine but problems start as soon as they take 2.5 mg. no, it's not like that at all.


Your completly right here.
 
burnout-
the reason it is 'the main issue' is b/c, in the OP's post, she asks, something like, 'Can an addict be prescribed benzos and take them as prescribed?'
So that is why I said it is the main issue......b/c everyone else in the thread seemed tot be arguing the validity of and the possible long term side effects of benzos, when the OP wasn't asking for your opinion on whether or not benzos are effective or what possible harm they can do.
As for your other question- I am not a Dr. to say who would suffer from long term side effects more than another person-
I appreciate your passion for deterring people away from things you perceive as harmful-- but that does not make your opinion or a couple articles you read, the word to be followed. Some people need benzos and some can find ways around taking them. Just because someone takes benzos, does not mean they are doomed to suffer.


Please stay on topic.
 
no one needs long term benzos (except those with a prior dependency on them) and if the question is can an addict stick to a prescribed dose of a benzos than the answer is certainly yes.
 
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