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Bupe Important Question about Bupe Withdrawal

You can take as much as you want, but it's not going to start working until a certain point....so it's a waste of suboxone basically, and also, you'll have a ton of it in your system, which could complicate the taper...
 
I'm just going to stick to plan, but if take's a while to work, won't going down 4 mg tomorrow affect that. I just want to make sure I'm stablized before I jump lower.
 
BlueHues said:
^For you, a gradual taper would definitely be the way to go...There's really no benefit to coming off super-fast once you've already been on it for so long...

Suboxone dosage has been a heated debate on Bluelight ever since the original discussion began...I first went on Suboxone in 2005, and have known more people who have been on it then I can even remember, and 8 mgs is the absolute maximum I think anyone should ever need...If that amount doesn't hold you, you should go on methadone...

The key with tapering, if you've been on suboxone for years, is getting as low as possible before jumping off, and giving yourself time to adjust to each drop...A fast taper to get off heroin is a completely different story, with a completely different strategy...
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Yeah, that's great advice, cheers for the reply. My first step is to take my dose all in one go, then start reducing gradually. It's cheeky but I won't tell my keyworker about the reduction at first, this way I'll have plenty of spare bupe so I can string out the final reduction from 2 mg by using smaller and smaller amounts by cutting the 2 mg pills with a razor blade into quarters.

I also have a large stockpile of tramadol, kratom and lope so I'm hoping that will help when things get really rough for me. A few years back I used to shoot subutex on top of my regular script, using up to 32 mg a day. When my supply of 'tex ran out I went from 32 to 12 overnight, and I wasn't feeling too good at all. But I found I out that taking tramadol really helped me a lot- I used it for around 6 months and then stopped cold without any type of WD's, so I think it'll be of help in the future.
 
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Yeah, don't be in a rush to taper too fast ya know? Stabilize on whatever dose you need, then start reducing, stabilize, and reduce again, etc, until you get to <1mg. And with the kratom, if you start taking that once you hop off the sub, you'll feel next to no withdrawal symptoms. I have a friend who did that exact same thing and he felt 100%.
 
Yeah, that's reassuring to know; a mate of mine also tapered painlessly. Dunno what it is about the net, but when you read about bupe detoxes there are so many nightmare horror stories; paws lasting for years, excruciating pain. I think it comes down to a positive mindset. I know the bupe withdrawal isn't going to be as horrific as morphine withdrawal, it's just gonna last quite a lot longer
 
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A lot of the horror stories, just like with methadone, are from people on super high doses, not tapering, or tapering incorrectly, just hopping off, not preparing with other meds, etc. If you're an idiot about it, yeah it's gonna be brutal, hah. But if you taper to a low dose over time, come off at the lowest amount possible, and then use something like kratom.. it's really not that bad.
 
The bupe withrawal is shitty as hell! Not as painfull as kicking dope or meth but verry longer...A lot of sweating and depresion..I tried 2 years ago and i succeded.Going cold turkey is not a good idea...My trick was that i took 3-5 tramadols a day with 1 diasepam.and on every 3rd day i took small doses of H.I was smoking it afcoarse not iv..This will be about a month or month and a half...U'll get through some rough time but it will be worth it! Watch movies,walk in nature,stay with a girl or with friends who will support u all through the proces..It is achievable trust me.All u need to have is a strong will.u'll feel great afterwards.Good luck!
 
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I did one week taper in rehab.

However, every once in a while when I think I want to use or I am craving, I cut a strip into 8 tiny pieces & do 2 of those pieces twice a day for about 2 days. Then I'm good for a few months. As others said, it's best to do a quick taper so you can get through the worst of withdrawals if you are coming off of whatever but don't go a full week or more if you can help it because then you'll have to taper from that as well.
 
Mr.Scagnattie said:
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A lot of the horror stories, just like with methadone, are from people on super high doses, not tapering, or tapering incorrectly, just hopping off, not preparing with other meds, etc. If you're an idiot about it, yeah it's gonna be brutal, hah. But if you taper to a low dose over time, come off at the lowest amount possible, and then use something like kratom.. it's really not that bad.
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Definitely, I remember once when they stopped my script and I went from 12 to zero, and it was really bad; insomnia, restlessness, and a very unpleasant burning/freezing sensation all over my body. Btw I've started taking my dose in one go, and I've reduced by 1 mg, I won't expect unpleasant symptoms till I get to around 8 and below, I think that's where the tramadol will help. I've given myself 1 year to get off it, so it's gonna be slow and hopefully easy. When I jump down to zero, I've got plenty of kratom, lope, and phenibut.

The good thing about bupe WD's IME is the lack of despair/ rock-bottom depression I got from morphine and H, I think that's good, it's just the length of it that's gonna be really difficult.

^ man! that sounds like a brutal taper, way too fast. I did a stint in rehab myself and knew people who just couldn't bear it, so kudos for sticking it out.
 
yeah you dont ALWAY's experience withdrawal
SWIM is on suboxone 12mg a day (fucking speaking of) on a side note SWIMs shitty insurance wont cover films anymore and has to get the tabs and SWIM dont mind but still its so dumb because honestly SWIM rather have strips

but SWIMs been taking them for years on end and detoxed in the loony bin once and remembers being in rehab buying a strip off this cat there and got fucking rigggggity WRECKING ROCKED lol like the first time again

Ive realized if you wait 2 weeks your tolerance and blood levels lower enough to get high again
 
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