important LSD question

[rogueone]

has anyone here ever placed a tab of paper/blotter on their tongue and felt a strong fizzle sensation on the tongue? no taste, just a fizzle/buzzing sensation.

 

[BULESYE592]

Yes, it will usually taste metallic.

Sorry for the rubbish spelling.

 

[illuz1oN]

I doubt thats LSD on that blotter.

 

[Ismene]

Has someone dipped the blotter in sherbert dip?

 

[TheAppleCore]

No.

 

[EntheoDjinn]

Dodgy, very dodgy

 

[DynoSpec]

i sometimes feel the slightest tingling sensation where the tab is, but its barely noticeable and probably just in my head

 

[Gerald92]

sketchy

 

[freescale]

Sounds like he could be describing the "electric" taste that's a common hallmark of LSD. If that's what you felt, yeah that's a well known & documented sensation that accompanies real LSD. A quick Google search for "electric taste LSD" turned up this, this & even one on our humble board.

 

[rogueone]

Sounds like he could be describing the "electric" taste that's a common hallmark of LSD. If that's what you felt, yeah that's a well known & documented sensation that accompanies real LSD. A quick Google search for "electric taste LSD" turned up this, this & even one on our humble board.

You either know from experience or at least have an open mind to the truth my friend.

As for the rest, I feel the need to tell all who is willing to listen. I've tried all sorts of blotters in the 90's and 00's. many had names like "alice in wonderland", "timothy leary", "beavis and butthead", and many many more. Most of them were also described as more visual or less visual or clean or dirty.

well now, that is interesting isn't it? i mean, LSD being an individual molecule in its pure form, would seem to have more consistent effects wouldn't it? oh, but i know what many will say: set, setting, and dose right? AND, only LSD is active at that amount, right? etc. etc.

if anyone here has had mass spectrometry analyzed and confirmed 95+% pure LSD-25 on the paper that went into their mouths, i'm sure that the window into the LSD world would go from milky to clear in an instant, and then you would "know".

i believe in: contaminated batches and liars laying other things besides LSD on paper. you may trust your connection with all your heart, but your connection probably doesn't know the actual molecular makeup of that paper either. the fact that the LSD precursor chemicals are heavily watched and that the synthesis process is extremely difficult, tedious, and fragile tells me one thing:

"acid" is mostly a term to used describe a plethora of possible psychoactive compounds sold to people under the false advertisement of LSD. As a result, the reputation of pure LSD is now all but lost, thanks to uncle sam

the tongue fizzling acid that so many in this generation has never experienced, was i believe the only real LSD experience i ever had. it was: spiritual, ecstasy, negative emotion deconstruction, post-trip serotonin/dopamine production balancing, complete depression lifting (which lasted for several months), mind/intellect enhancing, pure energy, harmonization with pure light, love, God. there is not an exaggeration in my bones about this. that IS what i experienced.

it forcefully created or recreated for that matter, happiness from within. it was hands down the best medicine that I've ever received. i've tried most of the known RC's, mushrooms, cactus, morning glories, trying to duplicate LSD. The absolute best trips from the other substances combined are only pale in comparison in overall effect.

every "acid" that was given to me or purchased before and since was absolutely pathetic and is not even comparable.

the fizzling acid came with no artwork, no name, and no description of the effects except for "dude, this shit is different man, you'll see"...

i hate the situation, but its likely that you will continue to defend RC acid trips to the death all the while fervently believing that you are consuming real LSD. That is until the laws change.

Want more evidence? The drug scheduling system was designed in the early 70's because of the social impact LSD had. the war counterculture was pure upheaval and couldn't be tolerated by the hierarchical pyramid structure of capitalism and government.

Think about it... merry x-mas

 

[SpecialK_]

There's too many people thinking that things on blotter are no longer on LSD, they are. If not, your not going to the right sources.
Synthesis can affect effects as far as I know, I see this discussed more widely with the likes of MDMA rather than LSD though, but I can definitely notice a difference in batches of LSD or different forms (microdot/blotter/liquid).
If it came with no artwork that just means its WoW blotter, although it could be possible it was laid directly from liquid more recently and so it was a nicer hit or a stronger dose. Storage of LSD is important also.

 

[psilocybonaut]

i hate the situation, but its likely that you will continue to defend RC acid trips to the death all the while fervently believing that you are consuming real LSD. That is until the laws change.

You....have no idea what you're talking about.

LSD is 100% around, you just have shady fucking sources.

And as a matter of fact, you CAN get blotter GC/MS analyzed in the Netherlands, and many people have. Most stuff that goes out as LSD is LSD. There is the occasional DOx on blotter, but not produced in mass quantities.

 

[rogueone]

You....have no idea what you're talking about.

LSD is 100% around, you just have shady fucking sources.

And as a matter of fact, you CAN get blotter GC/MS analyzed in the Netherlands, and many people have. Most stuff that goes out as LSD is LSD. There is the occasional DOx on blotter, but not produced in mass quantities.

and you know exactly what is on the paper that you consume aye??? hmm...

out of the hundreds of mediocre and at best decent "acid" experiences that i've had, only one blew me away and seemed chemically correct to me. until someone can present me with a chemical that matches the same physiological/psychological attributes, then i defend my case to the death. got it?

as for the gas chromatography/mass spectrometry sample analysis findings in the Netherlands - Nice! but i have a question about that. were these "tests" conducted in order to rule out similar and possibly active molecular analogues, other chemicals/contaminants, or just to test for the presence of LSD?

Perhaps the samples did contain LSD and perhaps other microgram active constituents as well... IDK... do you?

on the other hand, if these GC/MS tested blotters somehow determined beyond a shadow of a doubt that the content of these tabs was very pure LSD without anything else, then what did they feel like? hmm? does anyone here know? i certainly don't, because none of the hundreds of hits that i ate including the one good one were not analyzed.

the whole reason that i started this thread is because i'm looking to find anyone who has placed a tab on his/her tongue and felt a distinctive electrical shock feeling buzz/fizzle in the mouth - a pleasant and not painful but strong sensation - which was followed by the most high and intense retuning of perception ever experienced.

was visual acuity enhanced to the point of witnessing 3D as supra-dimensional, seeing angles within angles between objects that are not observed in normal vision? i'm not referring to standard psychedelic cev's and oev's, i've had plenty of those like everyone here. I'm talking about a substance that drastically enhances sensory perception, not simply distorting it. Did you feel strong sensations of flight? not just floaty lighter feelings, had plenty of those as well on other psychedelics. Did you believe that you were a God, that your brain was God? During this experience, I was able to balance myself on an inch diameter cable suspended between fence posts and walk across. I can't do that while sober or on any other chem.

i'm trying to tell you that i was physically/mentally enhanced to an extreme and feeling rushes of pure energy flowing through my entire body producing pure ecstasy. yes i've done meth, nope it wasn't that, yes i've done coke and rolled plenty of molly, nope not the same at all. this was mid 90's before RC vendors hit the web.

with the amount of experience that i've had and research that i've done on the subject, its annoying for me to hear what i hear from some people on forums, but its just a clear indication to me that most folks simply have not had what i had.

don't take that the wrong way, it may not have been LSD at all. but if it wasn't, then what produces the effects that i have described?

and please save the "you don't know what you're talking about" crap for someone else because i doubt that you know more than me, unless you want to go head to head with an in-depth research regurgitation session.

 

[SpecialK_]

You are extremely ignorant and are too textbook to know what you are talking about. If you doubt the blotter nowadays isn't LSD you either don't have good sources or used to take an RC. It's as simple as that, we don't need all your silly information you found on erowid. Your just the LSD equivalent of the people who swear by MDMA pills not being 'like the old days'.
You thought your brain was God, well done you tripped hard.

 

[rogueone]

appears i've inflamed a temperament of hostility. regardless of the research i've done trying approach understanding of how things progressed throughout the history of LSD, i do realize that ultimately there is little evidence to prove anything on my behalf. i've experienced what i've experienced and it is only for me to know, right? that is unless i find another who knows what i'm talking about, which is why i'm here.

what i don't understand is why some folks are so aggressively opposed to the possibility of impure LSD batches and or other chems put on paper. Their opposition remains steadfast in the face of the fact that LSD is difficult to make and is extremely suppressed by gov.

i wish that people had access to pure pharmaceutical grade LSD of lab confirmed quality. i believe that the reputation of the stuff would drastically change if that were the case.

but what the hell am i arguing for, if you don't believe the theory of good and bad acid, then, se la vie...

 

[rogueone]

You are extremely ignorant and are too textbook to know what you are talking about. If you doubt the blotter nowadays isn't LSD you either don't have good sources or used to take an RC. It's as simple as that, we don't need all your silly information you found on erowid. Your just the LSD equivalent of the people who swear by MDMA pills not being 'like the old days'.
You thought your brain was God, well done you tripped hard.

one more thing for you in particular sir. extremely ignorant aye? well, i certainly didn't know about lsd in the 60's, 70's and 80's, but i tried it from the mid 90's and on. have i done it thousands of times? no. a few hundred? yes. been through many forms; mostly blotters, gels, liquid from a sweet breath bottle that had a silverish tint to it, sugar cubes, microdot (twice), some called amber, and some called fluff. i've yet to try what is called needlepoint.

if you were implying that i'm ignorant in a "street" sense, then you pegged me wrong dude. i'm just a heavy researcher on the subject because i want the truth, not some juvenile perspective.

other than that, peace be with you fellow psychonaut...

 

[artic]

I think I might have seen (liquid) LSA sold as "acid" once, but I don't think I've had blotter that I wasn't convinced was LSD-25. All the blotter, regardless of source or (presumably) batch was essentially identical in effect.

In answer to the original question, I often associated a light tingle with high potency tabs. What you're describing sounds more pronounced than I ever noticed.

 

[Ismene]

I've tried all sorts of blotters in the 90's and 00's. many had names like "alice in wonderland", "timothy leary", "beavis and butthead", and many many more.

Did you ever try Alaskan Thunderfuck?

what i don't understand is why some folks are so aggressively opposed to the possibility of impure LSD batches and or other chems put on paper.

Because it discounts the fundamental truth about LSD - that it has an enormous range of effects that can vary depending on a thousand different things. Take the the "purest" sandoz LSD on a rainy day and you'll likely have a completely different experience than if you took it on a sunny day. That's just what LSD is like - no need to go searching for mysterious unknown compounds that apparantly automatically give you "bad trips". The same LSD can make you feel like God one day and make you feel like shit the next. That's just LSD.

 

[Shambles]

OP: Have you considered the possibility that the amazing trip you had (the one sold as being "something different") may have been the one that actually wasn't LSD and the "disappointing" ones that you've had since are the ones with acid on? Seems far more likely to me cos 99% of what is sold as LSD is LSD. And yes, I have had a number of blotters that I've consumed that have been analysed - all contained LSD and nothing else.

Have also known a layer or two in my time and they all laid acid and nothing else. The only realistic RC that would work at similar, blotter-fitting, doses would be the DOx series. A few 2C-x have also turned up on blotter but either required several to work (an active dose simply doesn't fit on blotter) or were blatantly "odd" looking - powder sandwiched between sheets of paper. Some of the stronger benzos and opiates (alprazolam, fentanyl and so on) are also occasionally laid on blotter but would be hard to mistake for acid. LSD's demise is greatly - and erroneosly - overstated.

 

[bec.x]

The thing about "electric" taste refers to te sensation when you are already tripping and waves of static or something go through your mouth. As for the blotter, however, I've never tasted anything but paper, but who knows. Most other coupounds would usually taste bitter if anything, no?