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Immortality?

i think there is an infinite amount of things to do tho
so with infinite time and infinite things to do, you won't get bored...

unless you just like...start getting frustrated too much or something at your apparent lack of "steady" progress and quit moving anywhere.

maybe progress doesn't have to be linear time-wise, but perhaps exponential? you just gotta wait a few more years to get a bigger reward.
(and you'd be able to because you are planning to live forever, so like, if you don't have a good position or kids by the time you're 50 it doesn't really matter cause you've always got time)
 
Leg said:
i think there is an infinite amount of things to do tho
so with infinite time and infinite things to do, you won't get bored...
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Not always.

Suppose you were given 1 jigsaw to do every million years forever. Although that would mean you'd do an infinite number of jigsaws, it would still be undeniably boring doing only 1 every million years.
 
¡YA BASTA! said:
Constant change is irrelevent to the idea of getting bored with Immortality 8)
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Your post implies that its not possible to die (ie your conciousness to go to oblivion), only to be changed into something else. Since nothingness or nonexistance don't exist (nonexistance is nonexistant, perhaps somewhat of a logical contradiction ;)) once your conciousness comes into existance, it cannot stop existing.

Your post did not imply that the universe (or at least Earth) is changing enough to keep someone entertained for all eternity.

If you'd said "There are no constants in the universe, things always change" then I'd have replied, since that is relevant to the question of would someone have things to do if they lived forever. Instead you just talked about not existing, and how this is prevented.
 
^my brain no longer works well enough to reply meaningfully

I conceed. You win by default :p

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Yeah.
I had a little amphetamines with problem :|
 
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ebola! said:
>>I agree. Thats part of my gripe with religion. People say "Don't you want to live forever?" and my reply is "No". No matter how wonderful the place you live forever in is, eventually it would become hell.>>

I think this is predicated on the anthropomorphic idea of eternal selfhood.

ebola
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fuck.

i didn't realize you hit the nail before I did :o

and btw, what is with the sudden Green Anarchy? I expected better out of a smart guy like you, Ebola! Do youself a favor and come join us Scorched Earth Anarchists. That way you can enjoy driving musclecars around without any guilt....we're just helping to accelerate humanity towards that inevitable Energy Crisis that will be SO FUCKIN FUN =D
 
Originally posted by AlphaNumeric
I don't think some people realise how long forever is, or at least don't attempt to grasp it.

indeed. i wrote this elsewhere (based on something somebody else wrote which i could not find - so i'm paraphrasing):

"imagine a fly on a planet a billion light years (that's 5,878,499,799,944,615,912,808 miles) from earth. once every billion years (that's 1,000,000,000 years or, say, 12,500,000 lifetimes), the fly flies a billion light years to earth and pick up one atom. it then flies a billion light years back to its own planet. it repeats the journey every billion years until every one of the countless billions of atoms in the whole of planet earth are transported to the fly's home planet.

can you imagine how long that is? is it even conceivable? well, however long it is, it doesn't even begin to scratch the surface of 'forever'."

related reading: I want to live forever:(

alasdair
 
CHeck out this thread:

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=219568&r=0

Scientists create mice that can regenerate any body part or tissue except brain tissue.
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Hypothetically speaking, even if the potential for immortality could be attained there also exists the problem of statistical circumstance that comes into play over long peroids of time. Inevitably, some sort of disaster would have to befall a person with an "immortal" lifespan as the statistical probability of such an unlikely scenario (whatever it may be) would become more likely to happen as time progresses. You may have a body that could theoretically live forever, but eventually a bus or a bolt of lightening is going to hit you and you are going to die.
 
>>Religious viewpoints put it as forever.>>

Not exactly. Being charitable, most religious viewpoints posit non-dual being, with time, space, and dualistic experience not applicable. This is a very different thing from imagining our current awareness spanning "eternity".

>>and btw, what is with the sudden Green Anarchy? I expected better out of a smart guy like you, Ebola! >>

It was actually part of a ruse. I don't really identify as a green, although, in the wake of the coming energy crisis, I think we'll have to get reasonable about things.


ebola
 
alasdairm said:
i can not imagine anything more terrifying than the idea of living forever.

alasdair
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The truest thing ever written.

The scariest trip i ever experienced was because this thought entered my brain while i was hippie-flipping badly, and i have never been the same since.
 
"Eternity is a long time, especially towards the end"
Woody Allen
 
To the people who say they would want to live 'forever'(reminds me of an oasis song) can you imagine what you would feel like after a 100 years old? People seem to think that they would feel the same way they do now and be able to do whatever they want at the age of lets say 150, but lets put this into perspective, if you did live until 150, you would be doing no more than sitting in a nursing home and rotting away until you finally die, imagine how depressing that would be.

It reminds me of the saying 'be careful what you wish for'.I personally wouldn't mind dying at the age of 80 or somewhere around that age.
 
nickspurs said:
The truest thing ever written.

The scariest trip i ever experienced was because this thought entered my brain while i was hippie-flipping badly, and i have never been the same since.
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Just out of curiosity, what were you tripping on?
 
he says, about 10 words later, he was hippie-flipping.

hippie flipping is a common term for a combination of mdma and mushrooms.

alasdair
 
alasdairm said:
he says, about 10 words later, he was hippie-flipping.

hippie flipping is a common term for a combination of mdma and mushrooms.

alasdair
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exactamondo, about 6 ecstasy pills, 60g of wet shrooms and about 8 cans of beer.
 
AlphaNumeric said:
Suppose you were given 1 jigsaw to do every million years forever. Although that would mean you'd do an infinite number of jigsaws, it would still be undeniably boring doing only 1 every million years.
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there is more to life than "jigsaw puzzles" IMO
 
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u'd have a jigsaw puzzle every second. it's not like our creativity would run out

and... entirely new games would be invented besides jig saws
 
What has not been taken into account are the effects on the general population of immortality. As the life expectancy of humans increases on earth as does the population because old people are living to be older as new people are being created, so if immortality or even living to be 300 years old becomes a possibility, overpopulation and overcrowding will also become an extreme problem, the world functions as it does for a reason, and if man tampers with it the consequences are too great for everyone
 
^^ rené barjavel - "le grand mystère" (the great mystery)
ok, already spoiled
no need to read it anymore :)
seriously, barjavel's books are enthralling
the kind that you can't drop until you've finished it
 
yea i've thought about that griz, that is certainly a problem

we will need to start colonizing other planets...
 
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