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Immortality?

griz1988 said:
What has not been taken into account are the effects on the general population of immortality. As the life expectancy of humans increases on earth as does the population because old people are living to be older as new people are being created, so if immortality or even living to be 300 years old becomes a possibility, overpopulation and overcrowding will also become an extreme problem, the world functions as it does for a reason, and if man tampers with it the consequences are too great for everyone
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1. we are approaching colonisation of other planets and space, once we can live that long i doubt we'd be restricted to earth

2. we have huge amounts of space not utilised on earth
 
yea, alright for the first reply, dont you start diein once you are concevied not once you hit punerty? and the whole forever thing...if actually presented youd have to really think about that cause well forever is forever....defently have your time of being a hermit ;)
 
Squiggy said:
yea, alright for the first reply, dont you start diein once you are concevied not once you hit punerty? and the whole forever thing...if actually presented youd have to really think about that cause well forever is forever....defently have your time of being a hermit ;)
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Well, philosophically you start dying at conception :)

My point was more to do with cell death and the gradual deterioration of the systems that keep the body running, which doesn't begin in earnest untill you have stopped growing. But actually it's just semantics...

--- G.
 
alasdairm said:
he says, about 10 words later, he was hippie-flipping.

hippie flipping is a common term for a combination of mdma and mushrooms.

alasdair
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Ah I see, I don't know these terms that well!
 
qwe said:
1. we are approaching colonisation of other planets and space, once we can live that long i doubt we'd be restricted to earth

2. we have huge amounts of space not utilised on earth
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Will we still be able to live on earth in future though? Considering Global warming looks like destroying the earth.
 
SmC, This is Earth Speaking!

Global warming might change the lives of the parasitic technomonkeys currently termiting my surface. But don't confuse normal human life with my existence. I assure you they are not equivalent. In fact, I am 4.6 billion years old, and technomonkey culture is at most two million years old- but you are haha less than 50 years, you are one molecule in my stomach. I digest YOU during your lifetime. The price you pay for breathing is that you are continuously rusted by my chemicals/drugs. Well shove this reality check in your tiny veins. Each technomonkey weighs about 100 kilograms, I WEIGH 6,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 kilograms. Suck on That slutsucker! If there's one thing humans understand, it is appearances and power. Well fuckin look at me! You are insignificant to my greatness. Worship me, bitch! I'm crazy huge and each of your beings is subsumed in my being. Compare one pore on your skin to my volcanoes, spewing pyroclastic flows putting nukes to shame. Compare your saliva to my expansive oceans, the place where we collaborated in your ancestral birth.

Just think about how many times u'd have to drive your car to balance out Mt. St. Helens or all my damn cows!

Cheers to Violent Love,
Gaia

P.S. Becoming human form at college party last weekend, I met a fine broad named Katrina. Well please meet my friend, ocean break-dancing Katrina. Still arrogant, technomonkey?
 
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Slaughterhousefive42 said:
SmC, This is Earth Speaking!
Global warming might change the lives of the parasitic technomonkeys currently termiting my surface. But don't confuse normal human life with my existence. I assure you they are not equivalent. In fact, I am 4.6 billion years old, and technomonkey culture is at most two million years old. Each technomonkey weighs about 100 kilograms, I WEIGH 6,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 kilograms. Suck on That slutsucker! If there's one thing humans understand, it is appearances and power. Well fuckin look at me! You are insignificant to my greatness. Worship me, bitch! I'm crazy huge and each of your beings is subsumed in my being. Compare one pore on your skin to my volcanoes, spewing pyroclastic flows putting nukes to shame. Compare your saliva to my expansive oceans, the place where we collaborated in your ancestral birth.

Just think about how many times u'd have to drive your car to balance out Mt. St. Helens or all my damn cows!
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I'm not quite sure what you're point is there, but what I was saying is that it would destroy the earth as we know it now, earth may still exist, but we certainly wont be able to live on it.
 
All those clever breakthroughs will help future generations live longer.. but not for ever.

Death is necessary to teach us about impermanence. Death is part of life.

All component things are subject to decay - even us.
 
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Originally posted by SmC
Ah I see, I don't know these terms that well!

right - a bluelight search for those terms comes up blank...

:)

alasdair
 
Bluelight searches suck to be honest, i tried one the other day and it came up with aload of threads totally different to what i was looking for.
 
well, searching does require a little thought to ensure a good search. but in this case, it was pretty straightforward.

bl search for "hippie and flipping" produces loads of results which would have answered you question including this (which was on the first page of results): The 9 Ways to Flip

i don't mean to specifically single you out but i have responded to a number of threads today where bluelighters seem to not bother reading posts properly or seem to want everybody else to do their work for them.

:\

alasdair
 
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Well i didn't think about the search function at that point anyway,it's not something I use that often on websites.
 
Leg said:
there is more to life than "jigsaw puzzles" IMO
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My point (which I thought was fairly obvious) was despite being given something to do which is of infinite quantity, you can still have practically nothing to do if you live for an infinite time.

I read the first chapter or two of "The Selfish Gene" last week while on holiday. It made an excellent point about breeding ourselves to live longer.

Typically people become weak with disease and genetic illnesses in their 40s and older because of the age at which we breed. If someone has a genetic disease which means they are likely to die before they are 25 or 30, its probably they won't procreate. Hence, the majority of early onset genetic diseases don't last long. If we made it illegal to procreate before the age of 40, we'd find that the people who procreate most are those who don't have genetic diseases which onset before 40. Then, after a generation or two, you raise the birth age to 50. Continue this and its conceivable that you can "naturally" extend the average human life span to 150, even 200 years!! Of course, the cultural view of denying people the right to procreate are fairly extreme, and its probably such action would result in massive population decline initially, but after say 300 years of such rules, humans would live a lot longer and be more resilient towards disease.
 
AN, I must object to your first statement (nothing to do for infinit time).

How about a memory wipe so you can relive life (or different lives) and create new worlds. The only reason you get jaded is because you remember what you've done and nothing is new.
 
But then why bother living forever? If your personality "dies" (since you are the sum of your memories) each time you get your memory wiped, then its the same as being mortal. So your body lives forever, thats not worth much.

If you wish to be immortal, then your memories must exist forever, if what makes you you doesn't live on you aren't immortal.
 
>>But then why bother living forever? If your personality "dies" (since you are the sum of your memories) each time you get your memory wiped, then its the same as being mortal. So your body lives forever, thats not worth much.

If you wish to be immortal, then your memories must exist forever, if what makes you you doesn't live on you aren't immortal.>>

I disagree. Sexyanon's scenario solves the problem of us having to contend with the possibility of the nonexistence of our own consciousness (something we cannot comprehend). I am not just my memories. I am also my living experience.

ebola
 
Surely whatever it is that keeps us going (fear of death in one form or another) would vanish, leaving us all apathetic creatures with no motivation or drive for anything.
 
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