Misc Immediate effect from St.johns wort, Interesting it was a combination Kanna+ St.johns

[aguythatlikessmoke]

Anyways I wanted to report about a recent combination.

Kanna Sceletium I took two dosages today one in the morning mixed with Green tea.
Later on during the day I took powdered Kanna my second dosage.


I felt the usual stimulation , Mild Euphoric mood lifting of Kanna.
Kanna is a dual acting agent- A PDE4 inhibitor and a SSRI possible effects on Canibinoid receptors and GABA receptors.

I made a St.Johns wort tea. My Tea is European and is a good source. Then when I combined The Kanna and St.Johns wort just wow. What did I just take???

St.Johns wort blocked all of my emotions like negative and bad, My mind felt blank. My mind usually races and I have a lot on my mind and I think a lot but St.Johns wort just makes my mind blank, Its also very calmin, I feel chill. Its so neat. But I still get a kick from the Euphoric effects from Kanna. Wow This is amazing. St.Johns take a while to kick in but this time it just hits me, my Mind is blank and I feel calm, relaxed.
I think the Kanna due to its Dual effects and its Phosphodiesterase effects is enhancing the speed of action of St.johns wort.

I believe in herbals no kidding.

Anyways this combination is awesome to take things off your mind, like my head is blank I really have a hard time thinking about Problems about anything I feel blank yet I still feel the stimulative and Mild Euphoric effects of Kanna.
St.Johns wort is interesting. I believe in it.

I am a bit Sensitive to herbs though, but also I get my stuff from a good source. I think people fail with Herbals because their sources are bad.

I have had amazing highs on kratom , just amazing Euphoric highs on kratom that blow Vicodin, Hydrocodone any day. I also felt Sedation and Hypnotic effects from kava that blow Valium out of the window.

Believe in herbals

 

[aguythatlikessmoke]

I was a bit hesitant at first but Kanna and St,Johns wort combo have just a mild side effect a bit of a racing heart and some over stimulation but it fades.
The risk of Serotonin syndrome seems low.

 

[llamer]

that's interesting and worth further investigation. how much hypericum did you make for tea, how many grams? do you take it every day?

SJW has significant CYP450 enzymatic induction properties so I wandered if that had some uiniuque effect

 

[aguythatlikessmoke]

that's interesting and worth further investigation. how much hypericum did you make for tea, how many grams? do you take it every day?

SJW has significant CYP450 enzymatic induction properties so I wandered if that had some uiniuque effect

I just had some reading done and some other stuff to do , I ate. Came back on Bluelight now.

Well I use Kanna( Sceletium Tortuosum) quite often, its a herb from south Africa with mild Euphoric properties but it has some nice mood lifting and antidepressant effects. Have you heard of it??? It is an SSRI and a PDE4 inhibitor Phosphodiesterase inhibitor Dual effect and it is rapidly acting. I notice the effect within 15 minutes of ingestion sort of an anxious come up followed by mild Euphoria and Anxiolysis.

But this time after taking the Kanna about 30 minutes later I drank SJW tea . I made SJW tea used 3-4 grams of Herbal Material but it in warm water that reached boiling point. Allowed it to step for 10-13 minutes. After drinking it the Euphoric effects of Kanna where intensified This lasted about 30-45 minutes. Where ever I was walking I had a huge smile on my face. I also felt another effect that I do not get from Kanna. I call it the blank mind effect, Like my mind sort of went still for a good amount of time, I could literally not think about anything no Problems, but also other things like my mind slowed down significantly it was blank It was a meditative sort of state very nice feeling, something you rarely feel but it gives you a peace of mind this also lasted for a short amount of time up to 30 minutes after ingesting the tea( do remember before the tea I had Kanna). Later on Mood lift was there, but the meditative state sort of broke ( it was a very interesting feeling just blank) Pleasurable because rarely do you experience it day in day out. Then later on I felt Some Muscular relaxation from Kanna being intensified by SJW. But Also SJW seems to have Sedative effects some Mild to Moderate I felt a bit sleepy.

Only side effect noted was a racing heart nothing else.

I was worried about Serotonin syndrome but I read reports online of People combining SJW and Kanna without any problems and then weening of the Kanna and just using SJW. Cause SJW takes a week or two to fully kick in. But today after taking Kanna i noticed immediate effects after taking SJW.. No side effects or Serotonin syndrome both are serotonergic
Interesting

 

[aguythatlikessmoke]

i have good quality of SJW tea and with Herbals the quality and source of your product means everything.

I have used Mulungu, Kava kava 30 percent extracts and these herbal hypnotic sedatives are somewhat on bar with benzos and most certainly help with moderate anxiety.
I also used Kanna and Kratom and they had good effects too on me.
Kratom was better than vicodin at least to me and way less addictive and more Euphoric with Vicodin I get this drugged up feeling and i am nodding really bad. But with kratom I feel Euphoric and really good, and more so stimulated the nodd on Kratom it is there but no as bad as vicodin , Vicodin feels dirty compared to kratom you feel drugged up on kratom not so.

Also the nausea is bad on Vicodin as is the Crash the next day you feel out of it spaced out and dizzy and shit, But with Kratom either the hangover is mild but sometimes there is an afterglow.

 

[cyrick610]

Hey

I read your other threads about Kanna,it seems to be working for you.I tried kanna from 2 different vendors and no luck for me,I'm not getting the anti-anxiety effects.I wanna know what you are doing differently,can you tell me your vendor?in the meanwhile I'm thinking of ordering from south africa,coz the people there speak highly of it.

 

[Nicholai]

I wouldn't get in the habit of mixing an maoi with an ssri, which is what you're doing. There's a new kanna preparation, which is supposed to be quite good, but I can't remember what it's called right now. Traditionally, kanna is mixed with cannabis for a really good high.

 

[Birdtribe]

Hi aguythatlikessmoke could you please personal message me. I want to know where u get your kanna extract from. I can't message anyone because I'm new. Thanks