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Heroin IM Vein Question

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heyian2222

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Hey fellow Bluelighters. I have a quick question for ya here. OK so my girlfriend IMs heroin (Please don't tell me how bad it is i already know) and it usually takes around 4-5 minutes to hit her. well today she did a shot and within 5 seconds she was floored! Could she have just so happened to hit a vein in her shoulder (this is where she IMs) and that's why it hit her so fast? Any feedback will be greatly appreciated.
 
actually IV'ing would be safer than IM'ing...as long as you dont miss your shots. IM'ing puts you at much more of a risk for abscesses than IV because the solution is just sitting there in your muscles.....IV goes directly into your bloodstream and is taken away, causing no issues.
 
jamesBrown said:
because if you do it correctly IM'ing a shot is very safe and healthy
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Not with street drugs it's not.

I'm assuming you meant micron filtering would be the 'correct and safe' way to go about IMing.. I believe this to be untrue. There is still a possibility of particulates being in your shot causing complications. It is NOT safe and healthy.

IMing street drugs is an awful idea, and this post is the epitome of harm promotion.

punchednthenose said:
yeah but IMing the shit is so horrible and unclean compared to any other way to take it. the only thing worse is IVing.
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IV is much safer than IM.
 
BaybeX said:
Not with street drugs it's not.

I'm assuming you meant micron filtering would be the 'correct and safe' way to go about IMing.. I believe this to be untrue. There is still a possibility of particulates being in your shot causing complications. It is NOT safe and healthy.

IMing street drugs is an awful idea, and this post is the epitome of harm promotion.
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whatever you say
 
^'Whatever I say'?

Can you post some evidence backing up your comment that IMing is safe and healthy if 'DONE CORRECTLY'?

Please.. I just want to know where you came up with this information.
 
You do realize that an abscess is a puss filled "lump" usually caused by missing an IV shot or injecting a sloution directly into the muscle under the skin??

If she REALLY does have an abscess, tha she should go to the hospital/doctor immediately. She could develope a serious infection inside an abscess that could spread to her blood and kill her, or the abscess can cause her to lose a limb or a digit.

Its best to be safe as possible and have that shit checked out.
 
Im assuming she didnt IM her shots properly...meaning she didnt use a micron filter?....and sterilize each injection site....and only inject into her buttocks or thigh?

theres a technique on how to safely IM a solution somewhere im trying to find the link for.

i mean, doctors do IM shots ALL the time, but they are using sterile solutions that are meant for IM. But if you micron filter a solution it makes it SOOOOO mch safer. Especially if you perform the rest of the IM shot in the correct manner. Allthough I STILL say that IV shots are safer. Because your shooting directly into your veins so it doesnt cause abscesses unless you miss the shot.
 
jamesBrown said:
You do realize that an abscess is a puss filled "lump" usually caused by missing an IV shot or injecting a sloution directly into the muscle under the skin??

If she REALLY does have an abscess, tha she should go to the hospital/doctor immediately. She could develope a serious infection inside an abscess that could spread to her blood and kill her, or the abscess can cause her to lose a limb or a digit.

Its best to be safe as possible and have that shit checked out.
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Yes, she has had them checked out, all of them have drained themselves and have gone away


jamesBrown said:
Im assuming she didnt IM her shots properly...meaning she didnt use a micron filter?....and sterilize each injection site....and only inject into her buttocks or thigh?

theres a technique on how to safely IM a solution somewhere im trying to find the link for.

i mean, doctors do IM shots ALL the time, but they are using sterile solutions that are meant for IM. But if you micron filter a solution it makes it SOOOOO mch safer. Especially if you perform the rest of the IM shot in the correct manner. Allthough I STILL say that IV shots are safer. Because your shooting directly into your veins so it doesnt cause abscesses unless you miss the shot.
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look dude we cannot afford these micron filters and dont have the money or the resources to have a freakin mini lab in our closet. Being a junky sucks and you have to realize that not everyone has money especially heroin addicts
 
Man chill out what is with everyone? I was merely trying to help you out the best I can.

Also...micron filters ARE VERY CHEAP. So please dont bitch at me about how you cant afford this or that and dont want a mini lab. I NEVER said anythign about a lab. Using proper IM technique has nothing to do with a "lab" so quit your attitude....im giving you the best advice available to you. If you choose not to use a micron filter and not use alcohol swabs etc...to make it safe for you/her to IM, then fine, thats your choice....I was just letting you know that its not hard to do it MUCH safer than most people IM.

I know what its like to be a heroin addict. I was a IV heroin addict for 4 years....and an opiate addict for a few more years. You think I dont know what its like? Trust me I know, I was even homeless for a while because of my habit....but even when I was homeless I could still afford a micron filter for only a few bucks. It costs less than a 10$ fix. I know what im saying....and im only trying to help....so drop that fucking hostility, no ones trying to force you to have a "mini lab" in your closet, wherever you got that idea.
 
If you didnt want advice on how to reduce the harm done to you or her body when you IM a shot....then you came to the wrong website....this is a harm reduction website, thats what we do....give the best advice in the hopes of reducing harm....in fact its our #1 goal. So try to understand that before you get all whiney and bitchy about me trying to help you be safe and prevent you from losing limbs, etc...
 
Perhaps the attitude/tone of your posts (and large amounts of misinformation) keep people from taking your posts seriously. I know that is the case for me and a few other forum regulars (mainly ODers) I've talked with. No offense, but you need to learn a lot more before you post. Double, maybe even triple check your facts.
You want to help with harm reduction? When people have to come in and correct your potentially dangerous posts -surprise- you actually make the job of spreading harm reduction more difficult (in the for of time spent -nay- wasted, correcting your [abundant] errors.) Just the facts, Jack. Feel free to rant away at me.
 
johanneschimpo said:
Perhaps the attitude/tone of your posts (and large amounts of misinformation) keep people from taking your posts seriously. I know that is the case for me and a few other forum regulars (mainly ODers) I've talked with. No offense, but you need to learn a lot more before you post. Double, maybe even triple check your facts.
You want to help with harm reduction? When people have to come in and correct your potentially dangerous posts -surprise- you actually make the job of spreading harm reduction more difficult (in the for of time spent -nay- wasted, correcting your [abundant] errors.) Just the facts, Jack. Feel free to rant away at me.
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what the fuck are you talking about? not once has someone had to "correct my error". Give me one instance where I said "misinformation" that wasnt anything to do with a matter of opinion.....as in I stated a blatant "non-fact"...im pretty sure that has never happened. but by all means....show some evidence to back up what your saying and maybe people will take YOU seriously....otherwise....stop making posts trying to make other members look bad.

What you just did up there^^^is get off topic, whine about how I am constantly posting misinformation yet didnt give ANY examples or evidence, and say that I need to check my facts before I post.

For the record...I do check my facts, I know what im talking about....and if there was anything I posted that you disagreed with than you could politely PM me and let me know how you disagree and I will either explain my side of the situation and my evidence or say that im sry for the confusion and we could figure that shit out like ADULTS....when people like you start making random posts that serve no purpose other than to talk shit about other members, its just not right....its also not what BL is meant for. So please stop acting like someone who is only concerned with making someone look bad. You and that one chick Baybe somethign are constantly BITCHING and BITCHING and BITCHING at me. I mean come on, can you move on finally? Seriously, get over whatever problem it is you guys have with me and shut up. NOTHING good is coming from the way you post towards me. NOTHING. Its getting to the point where your being extremely childish.......i dont know what you have against me, but I post in order to help people based on my personal experience/research. I dont srpead lies or false statements. So please stop accusing me of that....especially when you have ZERO evidence to back it up.
I have nothing against you people, except that im trying my hardest to stay calm every time one of you posts some random derogatory post about me that serves no purpose to the BL community. If I was such a horrible BL member and was constantly posting false information then why would I keep getting PM's from moderators THANKING me for the posts I contribute, and telling me to IGNORE you and BaybeX's posts, and do my best to not get sucked down to your level of talking shit to people for no good reason? Yea, thats right, they tell me that when you start talking shit, to ignore you because arguing wth you about it will just make me look like a stupid name calling idiot like yourself. So, do the entire community of BL a favor and stop with this shit. Its not helping ANYONE. I am trying to help people and I do not post false information.....if i did im sure you would have shown some evidence of it. So grow up and leave me alone unless you have something constructive to say

Its pathetic that I have to take so much time out of my week to deal with you people who seem to have nothing better to do than to talk shit about me. I mean come on, get another hobby. Grow up....and move on. Please.....not only is it annoying, but its pathetic.
 
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what the fuck are you talking about? not once has someone had to "correct my error". Give me one instance where I said "misinformation" that wasnt anything to do with a matter of opinion.....as in I stated a blatant "non-fact"...im pretty sure that has never happened. but by all means....show some evidence to back up what your saying and maybe people will take YOU seriously....otherwise....stop making posts trying to make other members look bad.

What you just did up there^^^is get off topic, whine about how I am constantly posting misinformation yet didnt give ANY examples or evidence, and say that I need to check my facts before I post.

For the record...I do check my facts, I know what im talking about....and if there was anything I posted that you disagreed with than you could politely PM me and let me know how you disagree and I will either explain my side of the situation and my evidence or say that im sry for the confusion and we could figure that shit out like ADULTS....when people like you start making random posts that serve no purpose other than to talk shit about other members, its just not right....its also not what BL is meant for. So please stop acting like someone who is only concerned with making someone look bad. You and that one chick Baybe somethign are constantly BITCHING and BITCHING and BITCHING at me. I mean come on, can you move on finally? Seriously, get over whatever problem it is you guys have with me and shut up. NOTHING good is coming from the way you post towards me. NOTHING. Its getting to the point where your being extremely childish.......i dont know what you have against me, but I post in order to help people based on my personal experience/research. I dont srpead lies or false statements. So please stop accusing me of that....especially when you have ZERO evidence to back it up.
I have nothing against you people, except that im trying my hardest to stay calm every time one of you posts some random derogatory post about me that serves no purpose to the BL community. If I was such a horrible BL member and was constantly posting false information then why would I keep getting PM's from moderators THANKING me for the posts I contribute, and telling me to IGNORE you and BaybeX's posts, and do my best to not get sucked down to your level of talking shit to people for no good reason? Yea, thats right, they tell me that when you start talking shit, to ignore you because arguing wth you about it will just make me look like a stupid name calling idiot like yourself. So, do the entire community of BL a favor and stop with this shit. Its not helping ANYONE. I am trying to help people and I do not post false information.....if i did im sure you would have shown some evidence of it. So grow up and leave me alone unless you have something constructive to say

Its pathetic that I have to take so much time out of my week to deal with you people who seem to have nothing better to do than to talk shit about me. I mean come on, get another hobby. Grow up....and move on. Please.....not only is it annoying, but its pathetic.
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johanneschimpo said:
Feel free to rant away at me.
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what the fuck are you talking about? not once has someone had to "correct my error". Give me one instance where I said "misinformation" that wasnt anything to do with a matter of opinion.....as in I stated a blatant "non-fact"...im pretty sure that has never happened. but by all means....show some evidence to back up what your saying and maybe people will take YOU seriously....otherwise....stop making posts trying to make other members look bad.

What you just did up there^^^is get off topic, whine about how I am constantly posting misinformation yet didnt give ANY examples or evidence, and say that I need to check my facts before I post.

For the record...I do check my facts, I know what im talking about....and if there was anything I posted that you disagreed with than you could politely PM me and let me know how you disagree and I will either explain my side of the situation and my evidence or say that im sry for the confusion and we could figure that shit out like ADULTS....when people like you start making random posts that serve no purpose other than to talk shit about other members, its just not right....its also not what BL is meant for. So please stop acting like someone who is only concerned with making someone look bad. You and that one chick Baybe somethign are constantly BITCHING and BITCHING and BITCHING at me. I mean come on, can you move on finally? Seriously, get over whatever problem it is you guys have with me and shut up. NOTHING good is coming from the way you post towards me. NOTHING. Its getting to the point where your being extremely childish.......i dont know what you have against me, but I post in order to help people based on my personal experience/research. I dont srpead lies or false statements. So please stop accusing me of that....especially when you have ZERO evidence to back it up.
I have nothing against you people, except that im trying my hardest to stay calm every time one of you posts some random derogatory post about me that serves no purpose to the BL community. If I was such a horrible BL member and was constantly posting false information then why would I keep getting PM's from moderators THANKING me for the posts I contribute, and telling me to IGNORE you and BaybeX's posts, and do my best to not get sucked down to your level of talking shit to people for no good reason? Yea, thats right, they tell me that when you start talking shit, to ignore you because arguing wth you about it will just make me look like a stupid name calling idiot like yourself. So, do the entire community of BL a favor and stop with this shit. Its not helping ANYONE. I am trying to help people and I do not post false information.....if i did im sure you would have shown some evidence of it. So grow up and leave me alone unless you have something constructive to say

Its pathetic that I have to take so much time out of my week to deal with you people who seem to have nothing better to do than to talk shit about me. I mean come on, get another hobby. Grow up....and move on. Please.....not only is it annoying, but its pathetic.
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Lol, you called it.

BTW James..you took this whole thread off topic for no reason. He stated in his OP that he knew the dangers of IM'ing, so why even bring it up?
 
There is no way we could know if she hit a vein or not so all we could do is speculate.

This also got way off topic and wildly unproductive so I'm pulling out the special key and locking this bitch up.

OP if you feel there's a reason to re-open this PM me and we can discuss it.
 
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