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I'm scared of LSD, but I want it

I'm not sure I can recommend doing combos until you've actually tried something first. I recommend just setting aside a full day, stay at home with music that you really love and that is very familiar to you, be in comfortable and familiar surroundings, and then split your tab up with a hobby knife and take a little, wait for it to kick in, see how you feel in an hour or two, and take a bit more if you don't feel like it's enough.

Caution is good. Paranoia is bad. The more nervous or anxious or scared you are of taking it the more likely you will have a bad trip. If you set your intention to have the best trip of your life and that it is going to set itself apart from all other trips you've ever had and you get into that emotion then you won't have a bad trip.

I did 19 tabs over the course of six weeks and only had one bad trip. It was a bad trip because I got hit with a nasty computer virus earlier that day and the anxiety from it turned into paranoia that the electronics in my house suddenly became self-aware and that "skynet" was after me. It may sound silly but it was actually a traumatic experience.

My point is that set and setting are *everything* with LSD. If you are angry or anxious or scared or frustrated or whatever don't take it; it is not molly or alcohol or mephedrone or coke or something that will snap you out of it and make you feel better; you absolutely cannot use it for escapism. You can use it for problem-solving though.
 
LSD is rubbish- there are so many other drugs you don't have to work at as hard that just make you feel so much better. Acid is too much like hard work, these days. And it's not as if you're going to make any vital breakthroughs. LSD walks you, like a dog upon a lead.
 
^ LSD isn't about making you feel better. It's about changing your perspective on this subjective thing we call "reality" that everyone likes to pretend is objective. If you just want to "feel good" do some molly or mephedrone. If you want to permanently change your perspective on life then take LSD.

If you want to know what LSD is really like, this article is excellent:
http://deoxy.org/w_psyrel.htm
 
If you're all worrying about it you're going to have a much greater chance of a bad trip.
Relax and have a fun time, nothing to worry about at all !
 
girlygrrl said:
^ LSD isn't about making you feel better. It's about changing your perspective on this subjective thing we call "reality" that everyone likes to pretend is objective. If you just want to "feel good" do some molly or mephedrone. If you want to permanently change your perspective on life then take LSD.

If you want to know what LSD is really like, this article is excellent:
http://deoxy.org/w_psyrel.htm
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EXCELLENT comment and phenomenal link... perhaps the best single post I have ever seen on PD. I hereby nominate it to the "Hall of Fame"!

The one line

...this subjective thing we call "reality" that everyone likes to pretend is objective...

says in 13 words things that I have written and posted page after page of excess verbiage trying to express.

It should be emblazoned in big neon letters across the entry-way arch you go thru on the way into PD, haha...

Give that GirlyGrrl an entire row of Gold Stars on her report card :D
 
lol!

the link is really great. so is alan watts in general. what would I give to spend some time with that dude (and some others)....I feel extremely connected to his thinking...

anyway: Raven! read it!
 
Alan Watts "The Book" that skinny, simple little book TOTALLY changed the way I understand consciousness, the universe and everything at the age of 21. This was after I had experienced LSD and mushrooms a FEW times... not enough to have any epiphanies or come to any conclusions, but after those, reading "The Book" gave me chills and quite a few "holy crap" moments during which entire areas of my mind and its understanding seemed to undergo tectonic shifts and just "click" into place.

I recommend it HIGHLY to everyone, whether, "Pre Experienced" or "Post Experienced" (to use Jimi Hendrix's terminology).
 
DwayneHoover said:
EXCELLENT comment and phenomenal link... perhaps the best single post I have ever seen on PD. I hereby nominate it to the "Hall of Fame"!

The one line

...this subjective thing we call "reality" that everyone likes to pretend is objective...

says in 13 words things that I have written and posted page after page of excess verbiage trying to express.

It should be emblazoned in big neon letters across the entry-way arch you go thru on the way into PD, haha...

Give that GirlyGrrl an entire row of Gold Stars on her report card :D
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Damn, I'm humbled and a bit speechless :)
 
LSD is one of the best psychedelics to start out on IMO. Very easy going it is not like it is portrayed in the media. Their are far easier things to have a bad trip on(once again this is all IMO through my heavy venture into the hallucinogenic world guys.) including but not limited to:

5-meo-dmt
4-aco-variants
2c-p
all the Dalt variants, 5-meo-dalt, 4-meo-dalt etc etc.

All of these for me have had slightly more "darker" themes lurking in the background and it was/is easier to think negative thoughts, get negative vibes, etc.
 
............."^ LSD isn't about making you feel better. It's about changing your perspective on this subjective thing we call "reality" that everyone likes to pretend is objective. If you just want to "feel good" do some molly or mephedrone. If you want to permanently change your perspective on life then take LSD."

But the whole point I was making is that LSD does NOT permanently change your perspective on life. It cannot tell the clothes from the man and every whore was a virgin once.
LSD merely lowers the threshold of our criticality.
And I have to disagree about the nature of reality-it is consensually objective enough for us to function. Anything else is angels dancing on pinheads.
 
bumpinbeats said:
LSD is one of the best psychedelics to start out on IMO. Very easy going it is not like it is portrayed in the media. Their are far easier things to have a bad trip on(once again this is all IMO through my heavy venture into the hallucinogenic world guys.) including but not limited to:

5-meo-dmt
4-aco-variants
2c-p
all the Dalt variants, 5-meo-dalt, 4-meo-dalt etc etc.

All of these for me have had slightly more "darker" themes lurking in the background and it was/is easier to think negative thoughts, get negative vibes, etc.
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Disagree about the 5-Meo-Dalt. Have tried it in many different ways/settings/variations and have had nothing but pleasant experiences with the chemical. Definitely a trip, but I have never found it to be as powerful or mind-bending as strong quality acid. I can't say I've ever had a difficult experience with 5-Meo-Dalt. That said, I don't think I have ever done it without combining with marijuana before or during or both.
 
ChronicHD said:
Disagree about the 5-Meo-Dalt. Have tried it in many different ways/settings/variations and have had nothing but pleasant experiences with the chemical. Definitely a trip, but I have never found it to be as powerful or mind-bending as strong quality acid. I can't say I've ever had a difficult experience with 5-Meo-Dalt. That said, I don't think I have ever done it without combining with marijuana before or during or both.
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Well 4 years ago, a friend of my best friends killed himself during the Doors movie, during the desert scene while peaking on Moxy (5-meo-Dalt). Ever since then i and my friends personally get some sort of dark side to a moxy/foxy trip..maybe it only applies to us. Either way RIP.
 
I'm a fairly experienced user of LSD, done it dozens times over the past 15 years or so.

I agree with the OP 100%. I too am afraid of LSD, but I WANT IT! (its a good "afraid") the shit deserves respect though! All psychedelics do, for example; I picked about 500 liberty caps this season. This Saturday we are going to a HUGE Halloween party all dressed up, theres gonna be light shows, good beats. Think I'll trip? the answer is no way. (maybe some MDMA though :) )

When I trip its usually on my own. However, I have 2 friends joining me this Sunday. The plan is to eat a healthy lunch, then later in the afternoon we'll all take whatever we are comfortable with. We will be at my place which is in a wooded area. No phones, nothing to do that day. If anyone except the people I am tripping with need to reach me for any reason at all, I am simply not available. There will be a bong, there will be good pot. Anyone can play whatever music they want but anyone can also VETO anything if its harshing their buzz to much. I like to see how my favorite music syncs up to nature programs on my 55" in HD while smoking a bong and playing with my cat! As the experience progress's we may wander outdoors in the forest, indoors gawking at weird animals on my TV, listen to music, curl up in a ball and get lost hallways of our own consciousness, have some drinks, whatever we want to do but in a controlled environment.

Its the people who have no fear that eat a 10 strip and get medivac'd from night clubs while thrashing in a state of psychotic terror. Then they talk about how "fucked" psychedelics are and how they'll never touch the stuff again (wankers)

They say set and setting are the most important things. Well maybe they are, but dosing right and planning right are also very important. Remember that and you'll have good times.
 
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Spoken Word said:
My friends (all have tripped a LOT) told me that the source is most important. If it's some guy you just met at a party, he might give you weak/bunk shit. If it's someone you trust, you can get a good dose-obviously, and the source might just be able to tell you EXACTLY what it is.

Then of course, the dose. A lot will send you FAAAR away. A little will tease you.

Tying both the product itself, the dose, and the trip together is the setting. Who are you tripping with? Will they want to do more drugs that will affect the trip negatively? Are they the kinds of people you WANT TO be mentally-altered around?
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I disagree that the source is the most important; really, its the setting as you mentioned below. Either way, unless you actually ARE the source, then you may as well take what you get. In the regional forums on BL, reviews for different prints are floating about. Check em out.

Weed will cause anxiety and panic in a lot more people then will LSD. I don't know why, but I find weed extremely anxiogenic, so I can only take tiny rips of it (god forbid that I eat it, I am then in a borderling psychosis)...I've been able to handle my shit while on whopping doses of LSD, but even a very small joint will get me worried. It sucks, because I love cannabis, but at this time in my life, it doesn't love me, the prick....;)
 
Weed used to make me very anxious, especially in higher doses.

Last time I did acid I was out of my mind, asking my friend what the world was over and over and laughing histarically and talking in insane voices and I wasn't the least bit scared. If you choose to try it you will probably LOVE IT <3

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=373188

Read that thread, if you want.
 
ATLGIRL said:
Dude.....fuck it....don't try it. It's awful :(
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And why do you say that? Have you had a bad trip on acid before or something? That is an over-generalized statement, I hope you know. Acid opens up your mind, which can either be beautiful or not.
 
JJ-180 said:
............."^ LSD isn't about making you feel better. It's about changing your perspective on this subjective thing we call "reality" that everyone likes to pretend is objective. If you just want to "feel good" do some molly or mephedrone. If you want to permanently change your perspective on life then take LSD."

But the whole point I was making is that LSD does NOT permanently change your perspective on life. It cannot tell the clothes from the man and every whore was a virgin once.
LSD merely lowers the threshold of our criticality.
And I have to disagree about the nature of reality-it is consensually objective enough for us to function. Anything else is angels dancing on pinheads.
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Perhaps not LSD in particular but psychedelics in general DID permanently change my perspective, and they do that to ALOT of people.

And "reality", being a construct within human language and culture, 100% has its origins in our internal SUBJECTIVE impressions and perceptions.

Yes, we go on to write stuff down, devise explanatory theories, do scientific experiments, etc. But without organic conscious brains with an inner "observer" who HAS THE SUBJECTIVE IMPRESSION OF "SEEING" SOMETHING... even our scientific model of "reality" has NO STARTING POINT.

How do you KNOW, really and truly KNOW that the entire Universe is not some elaborate dream that has been constructed inside YOUR consciousness? That "YOU" are NOT the ONLY thing that actually exists? You don't... unless you have some sort of Vulcan Mind Meld ability to get inside others' minds... and even that THAT could just be a part of your dream. I'm not suggesting to believe this, just making a point.

EVERYTHING that we believe to be true, at SOME point has it origins in the SUBJECTIVE observations or thoughts inside of individual human beings' minds.

Is there something "really out there" that "actually" exists without us? It is impossible to say... "really" and "actually" and "atoms" and "universe" are just words and/or concepts all of which have ZERO meaning without "US" defining and experiencing them... therefore: "reality" is a subjective construct.

That is not to demean it... WE exist, which is really all we actually know... but that means that IT exists. Understand?

Any "proof" we may gather consists of a subjective inner perception that a conscious human has inside his consciousness while reading an instrument display or computer printout.

And what IS "objective proof" if no one exists to prove anything to?

These are not just semantic games. They are very meaningful unsolved philosophical conundrums that are STILL being argued about by professional philosophers, with little definitive resolution coming from science. Despite all our progress, The Universe and our existence within it, i. e., "Just what is REALLY going on here?", are STILL deeply mysterious in every way. DNA has programmed us to PRETEND they are not, just so that we can put one foot in front of the other and reproduce more DNA.

You really have NO actual idea what "you" are, where exactly "here" is that you are supposedly at. For all we know it may be entirely smoke and mirrors at some level.

Maybe, as Mark Twain suggested in "The Mysterious Stranger" it all really IS one giant dream all being thought up by one single consciousness floating alone in empty space for eternity.

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