Im scared for myself

[chris_p]

Alleyesacaline? sounds right up my alley.. do you just mean rc chems that are similar to Mescaline like? Such as 2C-B? Maybe? Not sure at all honestly.

It draws my curiosity because not only am I a functioning addict, but hallucinogens, empathogens--+ other types of empathogens or cathinones I have yet to try or obtain.

I really have felt these substances take a fresh look at my ongoing opioid/opiate addiction..so I think it's helping me heal internally(placebo of not, something is working). But of course not enough, I think after the major sub kick then I will heroic dose shrooms for rebirth to hopefully seal the deal..if that doesn't work I am going to seak out Ibogaine.. taper, baby steps and adult psychedelic dosing is my new game plan.

Sorry to get off topic.. @chris_p
Let us know how things be going or rolling? I know you had recently ventured into dmt and salvia world, I am envious of your dmt..I definitely am interested in the vape since I have never tried. Just Shrooms, LSD, Salvia, aco-dmt or det gummies, DXM..I need to get aqointnted with all these OTHER amazing psychedelics. Maybe I will start a different thread.. but enough of my wishlist how you doing brother?

Yea I only really dipped my toes in the salvia it's still lying on my shelf don't think I want to touch it any more than I already have. It was interesting to experience but I can tell it's one of the scariest drugs I've gotten my hands on. Maybe one day when I'm really drunk I'll have a nice 'accident' and enter the real salvia land.

DMT on the other hand is a tough one for me, and colourful crack is definitely a good way of describing it.. funny enough it was my first psychedelic back when I was a teen. Sometimes I love it, sometimes I hate it and im scared as hell of it, just depends on my mood. It has an extremely specific body load that no other tryptamine gives me including shrooms, you know when you've hit the DMT, it's like all your senses become hyperbolic and stretch into a higher dimension, begin to go inverse and touch eachother, and the first few seconds after the exhale are always extremely anxiety inducing no matter what, like the calm before the storm. the peak is strange and indescribable and I could write hundreds of paragraphs on it. Never vaped it but heard a lot of 50/50 stories about vapes, some people say they can never breakthrough or only get mild visuals even after a dozen or so pulls, good old changa will send you to the other side of the moon in just one hit if you make it big enough.

For now I've laid off basically all the drugs just for work related reasons. MDMA is the one I regret the hardest. I'm still feeling the withdrawal even now. Gonna take a long long break from that one. Just smoking weed and low dose xanax and maybe some beer. Tripping has a way of humbling even the worst hedonist...

 

[Esperighanto]

Alleyesacaline? sounds right up my alley.. do you just mean rc chems that are similar to Mescaline like? Such as 2C-B? Maybe? Not sure at all honestly.

Allylescaline is a mescaline analog that hits in ~45 minutes, lasts 8-12 hours, lacks mescaline's nausea and lovey-dovey empathogenic feelings and has more of an acid-like feel to it. It's clear headed, the visuals are closer to LSD or 2C-B, and I've pushed the doses up to ~200mg in the past. Above 150mg it had me uncontrollably passing out, collapsing wherever I was standing, into visions of totally mundane moments of my future in a way that I'm still not unconvinced weren't genuinely precognizant, but just worthless. I don't know why allylescaline found it necessary to show me a first person view of myself in the future eating pastrami out of the bag with my bare hands like a fucking animal, but it did.

It mixes SUPER well with PCP and acid btw. I actually took a cocktail of shit last night I can't recommend for safety reasons (I won't disclose doses taken), but kratom was mixed with 7-OH-Mitragynine, THC-P, caffeine, flualprazolam, carisoprodol, 25B-NBOH, NEP, and allylescaline over the course of 8-10 hours. Through all of that, the allylescaline's character was still highly noticeable which I found fascinating. I'm actually considering taking more allylescaline today to integrate last night's experience better. If you have any questions about AL, feel free to DM me about it, it's quickly became a favorite drug of mine.

Edit: Forgot a small amount of vaped etizolam was attempted but the tank was partially jammed up so it didn't work well, leading to the use of flualp instead.

 

[Opana313]

Allylescaline is a mescaline analog that hits in ~45 minutes, lasts 8-12 hours, lacks mescaline's nausea and lovey-dovey empathogenic feelings and has more of an acid-like feel to it. It's clear headed, the visuals are closer to LSD or 2C-B, and I've pushed the doses up to ~200mg in the past. Above 150mg it had me uncontrollably passing out, collapsing wherever I was standing, into visions of totally mundane moments of my future in a way that I'm still not unconvinced weren't genuinely precognizant, but just worthless. I don't know why allylescaline found it necessary to show me a first person view of myself in the future eating pastrami out of the bag with my bare hands like a fucking animal, but it did.

It mixes SUPER well with PCP and acid btw. I actually took a cocktail of shit last night I can't recommend for safety reasons (I won't disclose doses taken), but kratom was mixed with 7-OH-Mitragynine, THC-P, caffeine, flualprazolam, carisoprodol, 25B-NBOH, NEP, and allylescaline over the course of 8-10 hours. Through all of that, the allylescaline's character was still highly noticeable which I found fascinating. I'm actually considering taking more allylescaline today to integrate last night's experience better. If you have any questions about AL, feel free to DM me about it, it's quickly became a favorite drug of mine.

Edit: Forgot a small amount of vaped etizolam was attempted but the tank was partially jammed up so it didn't work well, leading to the use of flualp instead.

This is hella interesting!! Never heard of such a wonderful hallucinogen/empath, totally cool.
I am well versed with mushrooms and acid, and love to mix them.(also ecstasy and now pure mdma). From high-school and on until I met roxi's I tripped fair amount of times to consider myself a vet in those realms. It was about a 7-10year dry spell of no plug for tripping and just went about my daily opioid abuse.
Now I have got a few solid connects for dried shrooms to capsules, to chocolate infused with whatever shroom strain(Gdamn they getting potent, and I'm loving it) and windowpane tabs or gel/pyramid tabs..which I find that I need at least TWO to feel like a regular one dose blotter hit(they just do not smack visually like the blotters i used to get AND they are hella speedy).

But I have yet to be blessed with substances like 2C-B, Mescaline, Ibogaine, Ayauhasca, or even DMT(including the vapes, I figure if I am new to dmt, then vaping sounds like a great way to slowly get aqointnted, not that I have to but out of respect). Now this alleyesacaline sounds fantastic, like possibly even better than Mescaline?

Either way I need to do my research on changa and San Pedro or whatever to at least figure out my own way to try these two substances! And many more!

 

[Esperighanto]

This is hella interesting!! Never heard of such a wonderful hallucinogen/empath, totally cool.
I am well versed with mushrooms and acid, and love to mix them.(also ecstasy and now pure mdma). From high-school and on until I met roxi's I tripped fair amount of times to consider myself a vet in those realms. It was about a 7-10year dry spell of no plug for tripping and just went about my daily opioid abuse.
Now I have got a few solid connects for dried shrooms to capsules, to chocolate infused with whatever shroom strain(Gdamn they getting potent, and I'm loving it) and windowpane tabs or gel/pyramid tabs..which I find that I need at least TWO to feel like a regular one dose blotter hit(they just do not smack visually like the blotters i used to get AND they are hella speedy).

But I have yet to be blessed with substances like 2C-B, Mescaline, Ibogaine, Ayauhasca, or even DMT(including the vapes, I figure if I am new to dmt, then vaping sounds like a great way to slowly get aqointnted, not that I have to but out of respect). Now this alleyesacaline sounds fantastic, like possibly even better than Mescaline?

Either way I need to do my research on changa and San Pedro or whatever to at least figure out my own way to try these two substances! And many more!

You should read PiHKAL and TiHKAL to get started learning more about the incredibly diverse array of hallucinogens that exist, the Shulgins were truly the first psychedelic wizards in western society imo. Relying on street vendors is always tricky for psychedelics, but gel tabs I've acquired are usually equivalent to 3-5 tabs of any blotter I've ever come across, personally. Acid also doesn't really vary as far as visual quality of speediness, acid is acid. What you're experiencing is the subjective variance between trips, regardless of RoA (route of administration), it's more likely a function of dose and a slight bit of a placebo effect going on where you expect gel tabs to feel different from blotter. It's still the same compound, and it hits the same way assuming the same dose and set/setting are used. I always say that RoA is just as important as the drug itself, buying a page of blotter that has an image of Rick sucking Morty's cock is going to lead to a weirder vibe than something that's just fractals, you know?

2C-B is prevalent in europe and is spreading more in the US thanks to dealers' use of international trade via DNMs, but mescaline, ibogaine, ayahuasca, and DMT are all easily extracted from plants you can access in the USA. My beginning with DMT was smoking it straight out of a dab rig, I don't think there's anything relevant to respect there, the respect should come from having a properly serene set/setting and mindset going into the trip in my personal opinion, but I'm sure others hold varying views on that. I would highly advise you step into the world of doing your own extractions, it's a great way to have a connection to the compounds you consume, san pedro is a fantastic source of mescaline and you can make your own changa by extracting DMT (and/or harmala alkaloids, also from legal sources) and then curing them onto something you smoke such as cannabis or damiana. LSA is also worth looking into!

I don't know if I'd call allylescaline better than mescaline, they're two very distinct drugs. Mescaline is notably more empathogenic and has more phenethylamine-y visuals, allylescaline is more of a headfuck like acid is and the visuals remind me more of indolic psychedelics (tryptamines and lysergamides). Allylescaline is also dramatically more potent, arguably 8-10 times as potent by weight when compared to mescaline. The same way that miprocin and psilocin are two related yet different tools, or LSA and LSD, allylescaline and mescaline are similarly related yet different if that makes sense. If you have any questions about these, don't hesitate to reach out, I've spent a lot of time exploring as many diverse hallucinogens as I can possibly access, and I guide many people through sessions involving them.

 

[azurefire]

Hey so there isn't a ton of research done on it yet so your ymmv but I know you said you like smoking pot and that's what I do if I really feel the need to get out of my "head" and it works I can fuck around with my tolerance and kinda play hide and seek with it so I don't start using a bunch of other drugs with nasty withdrawals. But besides THC being totally fucking awesome there was a controversial research paper pointing to CBD potentially modulating people who would compulsively drink, so they wouldn't feel the need to seek it out as often. Probably best to abstain for as long as possible before hand to try and get back to homeostasis? but it might be worth a shot to see if it helps take the edge off, I hate that feeling too that "moreish" don't want to stop feeling. I have mega-dosed CBD and I noticed my urge to smoke massive amounts of pot just plummeted and the research is pointing to that CBD can modulate the dysphoric effects of THC so yeah... it might be worth a shot.

 

[Esperighanto]

Hey so there isn't a ton of research done on it yet so your ymmv but I know you said you like smoking pot and that's what I do if I really feel the need to get out of my "head" and it works I can fuck around with my tolerance and kinda play hide and seek with it so I don't start using a bunch of other drugs with nasty withdrawals. But besides THC being totally fucking awesome there was a controversial research paper pointing to CBD potentially modulating people who would compulsively drink, so they wouldn't feel the need to seek it out as often. Probably best to abstain for as long as possible before hand to try and get back to homeostasis? but it might be worth a shot to see if it helps take the edge off, I hate that feeling too that "moreish" don't want to stop feeling. I have mega-dosed CBD and I noticed my urge to smoke massive amounts of pot just plummeted and the research is pointing to that CBD can modulate the dysphoric effects of THC so yeah... it might be worth a shot.

Megadosing CBD (3-5 full grams) felt like a highly tactile empathogen to myself and others, it's interesting you found it to resemble cannabis. It had the whole gang shirtless rolling around on my shag carpet, myself included, but it was an absolute NIGHTMARE to choke down that much smoke. It felt like if the tactile feelings of MDA/MDMA and the brevity of oxytocin were to be crossed, with almost no noticeable cognitive impacts. The asthma inhalers were damn near empty after that session. Six of us killed almost the entirety of a full ounce of CBD crystals we got from a cannabis chemist that lived down the block from us.

Other interesting cannabis substitutes are dagga (both alpine and klip variants, scientifically known as Leonotis nepetifolia), and sinicuichi (Heimia salicifolia) is trippier/more nuanced, but I found it to scratch the itch in a similar way personally. Dagga is likely significantly safer than sinicuichi from what I've gathered but both are highly underresearched.

 

[Opana313]

@Esperighanto
"but gel tabs I've acquired are usually equivalent to 3-5 tabs of any blotter I've ever come across, personally. Acid also doesn't really vary as far as visual quality of speediness, acid is acid. What you're experiencing is the subjective variance between trips, regardless of RoA (route of administration), it's more likely a function of dose and a slight bit of a placebo effect going on where you expect gel tabs to feel different from blotter."

Very interesting! Yes I have read all over that the gel tab or whatever windowpane being old school and very strong. My first experience was just one tab and although I did not think it was as great as my blotter experiences, it certainly was a bit of a let down as I thought I would trip much harder let's say visuals close to the intensity of 3-4g shroom trip, but was MUCH more subtle..speedy and visuals similar to low dose shroom maybe around 2g. Mostly just had OK tracers.
The second trip was a different batch and one gel tab was significantly closer to what I was expecting the first time^ and from then on I started dosing two at a time and then three.
The 3 tab dose was incredible, definitely a dose and a high that I had never taken yet(shrooms were always much more accessible for me when I was younger where as blotter was very sporadic and few-far inbetween). So this was a new spot for me and I guess I could say the visuals mirror a 6g shroom dose, it of course did not smash me and my ego down like mushrooms would or do...this was like OK tripping balls and I am still coherent and able to do shit, if that makes sense. Which is also expected because acid is a bit more of an outgoing type trip or where shrooms body load knock you off ur feet sometimes.

 

[Esperighanto]

LSD can be quite ego flattening but in such a subtle way that it's tough to notice, and it often requires monstrous doses to achieve whereas mushrooms do it more noticeably for me, and in a lower dose range as well. Have you ever combined mushrooms and acid before?

 

[Opana313]

LSD can be quite ego flattening but in such a subtle way that it's tough to notice, and it often requires monstrous doses to achieve whereas mushrooms do it more noticeably for me, and in a lower dose range as well. Have you ever combined mushrooms and acid before?

Yes I have plenty of times although furthest I took it was just an eighth of dried and one mad hatter blotter..then 4hrs in ended up eating another 3 or so grams.

But LAST night took a new tab that I have not tried and it stomped all over the last 3 tabs I took at once which was recently..and this one tab took complete control. Absolutely what I've been after. Such an amazing experience. Trying to gear up for 2 of these potent tabs. Which I believe will be complete oblivion the whole time or possibly other realm. Furthest I've ever been with lysergimides for sure! Fucking incredible!