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Heroin I'm really starting to think heroin sucks, at least when IV'ed.

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I used to be a heroin addict but that was not very sustainable so more recently I have been maintaining with kratom, hydrocodones and suboxones when I get them and only shooting dope occasionally (like 2-3 times per month). Last week I was all excited because I got myself dope. I was so looking forward to it, but in the end I did not even enjoy it.

Let me explain. At the time I was pretty happy with my kratom habit, taking just two to three tablespoons of bali per day but getting good energy and a pleasant opiate glow from each dose. Also, my life was quite normal. I wasn't always fiending for more, or fearing WD or blowing through money like there was no tomorrow.

So I get the dope, shoot up and then I don't even feel that euphoric. I swear I get more euphoria and warm fuzzies from a couple norco than I do from IVing a bag of dope. What's up with that? And then of course, an hour later my buzz is already on the decline and I can't resist shooting more. Next thing I know I am way sedated, nauseus and so itchy its driving me crazy and yet still not particularly euphoric. I know it would be so much more prudent to save some dope for the next couple of days, but IV opiates have become like crack for me. As soon as I start shooting H I keep on shooting more until my stash runs out. For some reason, with kratom or hydrocodones, I take one dose and then i am good for 7-12 hours. Then after all the H was gone, I am craving more and my tolerance is all jacked up so I cant get high off kratom or hydros for a couple of days. When I look back at it, it was a pretty awful experience.

So Ive come to conclude that the weaker opiates are actually better. Why? Because they allow you to keep your tolerance much lower, which gives you so many more options and makes withdrawal so much easier and less scary. But here's the kicker, my primary reason for using opiates is pain relief and if I had to judge based on pain relief I dont necessarily feel like heroin does a better job than hydrocodone or kratom. You see, yes heroin is massively more powerful but because there is also a concurrent massive increase in tolerance that comes with heroin, you're net in pain relief is quite small. Sure, if I had an endless supply of very pure heroin, I would choose that over hydros and kratom but the fact is that I don't and that's probably for the better anyway because I actually don't want to spend my whole life in opiate induced stupor. When I was using a gram and a half of heroin a day, I used to sleep 12-14 hours a day. All I would do is nod out and sleep. What kind of life is that in the long run? With kratom, my life is actually normal.
 
Your probably not getting good dope bro. If it is decent dope its possible that other drugs have ruined your taste for it. That happened to me from being on subs for so long. I need a shit load of dope to even get me high and then I just dont even enjoy the high. Also have you tried making poppy tea rather than kratom. I think it is a much better feeling
 
I've never done heroin but I do feel that opiates become a drag after consistently using them every day for pain.

I get this feeling like, this opiate feeling is stupid & if I didn't have pain, I wouldn't touch opiates.

Sure there are days where I pop 3 (10/325's) & I enjoy the high & it takes my pain away for 6 to 7 hours but it gets mundane after a while. I definitely don't want to be in an opiate stupor my whole life.......I have & do get bored from alcohol & every other drug I have tried in my life & just quit using but with opiates, I need to take them for pain.

Do you also use opiates for depression/anxiety as well as for pain?
 
Your probably not getting good dope bro. If it is decent dope its possible that other drugs have ruined your taste for it. That happened to me from being on subs for so long. I need a shit load of dope to even get me high and then I just dont even enjoy the high. Also have you tried making poppy tea rather than kratom. I think it is a much better feeling


I wish poppy tea was readily available, its long lasting & great for pain........but can be very addictive.
 
I wish I never went farther than oxycodone. Weaker opiates give the same feeling. Just stick with codeine and you'll be golden.
 
I wish I never went farther than oxycodone. Weaker opiates give the same feeling. Just stick with codeine and you'll be golden.


I think a lot of people would stick with the lighter opiates if they had an unlimited supply & it didn't cost much........

I know I would still be taking codeine if I had an unlimited supply of codeine phosphate.......
 
There isn't any harm reduction related question here so I'm going to close this thread.
 
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