I'm gna try Kratom, Know nothing about it !

[benzoman12345]

So I have Chronic back pain, in a pain clinic that the appointments are 6 months apart and just a waste of time no this NHS bullshit,

I was on Tramadol 50mg (2 caps 4 times per day),
Now I have recently tried my luck at getting DHC and I got DHC/Paracetamol, 30mg/500mg (2 tabs 4x per day)

I have access to Plain Codeine tabs, Morphine, Oxycontin ..... but I can't afford any of it at the moment and I am very curious to try Kratom anyway because I AM in chronic pain every single day and these pain killers the Dr will give me are NOT enough, and I do like a nice little nod at night time because I have crazy fucking insomnia, I am still fit and healthy, exercise frequently so this does not affect me physically at all, it really helps me unwind mentally though,

Anyways.... Can someone who knows about Kratom please advise me which type is best for a person of my needs, I know you get powder and leaf, though I think I would prefer the powder to just weigh it out and down the throat it goes with a glass of water,

I am looking for a strain with good pain killing effects as well as a bit of euphoria to chill out at night, a vendor I have just been on have these 3 sample packs so I figured it would be a good idea to try a few and see what's best but if I can get advised here it would save the hassle

These are the sample packs the vendor has:

10g Green Malay,
10g Red Riau (Indonesian),
10g Red Vein Thai,
10g Stem & Vein Powder (Indonesian).

10g Sumatra Red Vein Kratom,
10g Borneo Red Vein Kratom,
10g Sumatra White Vein Kratom,
10g Green Riau Kratom

10g Kali Red Vein Kratom,
10g Borneo White Vein Kratom,
10g Borneo Green Vein Kratom,
10g Borneo LTP Kratom

In simple terms I need to know 2 things, 1: What is the most potent strain , 2: What is a good dosage for an opioid tolerant person (I AM).

Any advice would be really helpful, Cheers !

 

[benzoman12345]

Well before making this thread I probably should of done some homework lol, I've read hundreds of posts and it seems like Bali is the way forward, I read that others like Thai are stimulating and that's not what I'm after, apparently Bali is the most sedating/relaxing cheep and cheerful type, gna give that shit a go see if it enhances my DHC

 

[Bman2]

If oxy, morphine isn't enough, I'm sorry to say Kratom will just disappoint you. It has a ceiling that most would claim to be around the effects of 30mg oxy. Some times people will claim they feel more, but they are the ones with virgin receptors. More important than which kratom you buy, is WHERE you buy. The particular batch you obtain is often the biggest factor of how good it will be. Strengths can vary from batch to batch, even something that comes in the same package you can never really know. I suggest ordering from a respectable vendor online, and avoid headshops. Bali is a good strain to go with, but unless you order it from the right place, it probably won't be any better than the other strains. It might not even be true bali if it's not bought from the right place. Also you said you need help sleeping. I'm also an insomniac and Kratom keeps me up, but so do opiates. You may be different. I can't get nods onm opiates anymore unless I spend my whole life savings on pills or buy a bag of H. Best way to enjoy kratom is to not expect anything out of it. It sounds like you're saying your pills aren't cutting it so you need the next best thing. Kratom is actually a step down from that. You may need to adjust your expectations. The most potent from my experiences is Ultra Enhanced Indo (UEI) or a 15x extract. But it's extremely expensive and not really practical if you're expecting any sort of good value. However, you could try a couple grams of something like UEI on an empty stomach just to take note of how it works for you. Expect that to be the tip of the mountain as far as kratom experience goes. If you make kratom a regular thing, just buy plain leaf and stay away from extracts, tinctures, and anything that claims to be above "15x" in potency is most likely a lie and a rip off.

 

[Flaga121]

The Bali is a cheaper safer option if it handles your pain. Try it out, I personally love it.

 

[benzoman12345]

Thanks for the replys guys, I think I'll find someone who is a fan of Kratom and find a good source and try some Bali and see if it helps at all, if it doesn't well at least I found out