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Im dissapointed in hallucinogens

I very rarely get anything much in the way of visuals from anything at any dose (with one or two exception like DMT) but not been bothered as I always thought of them as a nice bonus if they happen but essentially just a side dish that's superfluous to the main meal which is all about the headspace. This may be changing though as I've had strong visuals on my last coupla trips (namely 4-AcO-DMT and 2C-E). Set and setting are no different - the only change is that I used much lower doses than I normally would. Odd, but enjoyably so :)
 
My Dmt experience was the regular dmt the first time, and the second time (about 7 months later) was 5meo dmt preceded by 30x syrian rue.
first experience, i felt slowed down (i had NOOOO idea how to trip on this stuff, so i spent 20 minutes walking 25 feet to get a cup of water) the world was still discernable, but in geometric patterns...diet kaleidascope effect?
2nd trip was just a reallly really watered down version of the first trip, but the best body high evrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

im taking Primal Defense and Milk Thistle Extract, B-100 Complex, a Time Release Multivitamin and Omega 3-6-9 Complex, for awhile maybe the beginiing of this thread.
hopefully all of this stuff will allow me to trip balls at ETD this weekend!!

edit: i've knoticed that the primal defense (or thistle extract, because those are the two new ones i've been taking) have been making my adderal induced insomnia soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much worse. i took an Ir at 2pm at a theme park, got home took xanax at 10:45...didnt sleep untill 4:30.
 
Well, the # was an average of course. A group of about ten of us had a sheet and devoured it over a period of time. We used Erowid and other sites to see what they described what you would feel from lsd at certain mic's. and it was between 50-75 a tab.

i didnt take xanax at the same time as LSD, or even within 2 or 3 days of it.
 
Even from DMT? That's bizarre. Sorry I'm of no help but i couldn't imagine what a DMT trip would be like without visuals.
 
i think its definitely the xanax. if he is taking benzos every day it is definitely enough to dull psychedelics
 
landocomando said:
Yea, i take adderal and xanax (both of which were prescribed to me very recently), and used to be on a long run of minocycline ( about the same time i started doing drugs in general). I thought because mincocycline alters the liver enzymes in some ways that this could be the result of my overall decrease in ability to feel certain drugs that i have no prior tolerance to (aka pcp, xanax and opiates)
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that might b ur problem i know several ppl that used to take adderal or ridlen or xanax and it takes twice as much shrooms and x to get them going that me ,

my friend smokes twice as much as me and we r the same highness and iv been smoking longer, i atribute this to his brain cheistry and that he used to take riddlen as a child
 
Yeah true about the medications. As far as visuals go, however, I've always gotten FAR more visuals from phenethylamines like mescaline or any 2-c-x.
 
landocomando said:
My Dmt experience was the regular dmt the first time, and the second time (about 7 months later) was 5meo dmt preceded by 30x syrian rue.
first experience, i felt slowed down (i had NOOOO idea how to trip on this stuff, so i spent 20 minutes walking 25 feet to get a cup of water) the world was still discernable, but in geometric patterns...diet kaleidascope effect?
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That sounds like some fairly intense visuals. Ionno what else you are looking for.
 
visuals are NOT the point when doing psychedelics. anyone that goes into them looking for visuals are going into it for the very wrong reasons
 
^ Jesus. Finally someone agrees with me. Other than Roger&Me, whom I always agree with (almost).

I'll have to paraphrase a quote of his, which pretty effectively sums up my perspective on the matter: going into a psychedelic experience looking for visuals is like getting a chance to meet God and staring over his shoulder at his cool wallpaper the whole time.
 
these wonderful gifts from the universe are not here to pleasure you. go jerk off with some coke or something.
 
^ Seems a bit harsh. Besides, when did you become the Official Spokesman of the Universe itself? :p ;) Pleasure seems to be the primary effect of psychedelic usage IME.

In the darkness of existence, pleasure is our only guiding light. We must regard it as our sole purpose and goal. Human behavior has no other basis.
 
20mg of 2c-i rocked my world....

like the sky was vortexing and the ground was swallowing things up and my entire view of the world was just like jello. It was at night in the woods with minimal lighting, night vision completely overtaken by hallucinated patterns......
 
I'm pretty hardheaded, but with high enough doses after a long enough period of abstinence, and a nice, peaceful mindset with no expectations, and I might notice some crazy shit going on :)
 
livelifenow said:
visuals are NOT the point when doing psychedelics. anyone that goes into them looking for visuals are going into it for the very wrong reasons
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Yea definitely. Visuals are cool and all, but they're such a small part of the experience.
 
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Feste said:
I've got a few friends who can't get visuals, no matter what the dose.

Just bad luck I guess. :\
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Some people do not get visuals from psychedelics.

I have friends that just had the mental effects from psychedelics and they took very strong LSD and mushrooms and they did not see any visuals at all.

Visuals are nice but they're just icing on the cake of the entire psychedelic experience.
 
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