I'm about to kill myself, seriously.

Thanks for that artofwar..

Anyways I still have no where to live, i've just been coming to my mom's during the day. The guy bojangles stopped answering me.. sucks.. seemed like it was a done, sweet deal. Bummer

I don't know what to do.
 
i said it because until i stopped making excuses, i could not overcome my situation. i am decently well aquainted with bp's situation. i've experienced similar things, save cancer. I've been in a multitude of crisis situations, and all the helpfulness/support i had i just used those avenues as reasons to not focus on the crux of the problem - my inability to deal with life on life's terms. I'm from a similar place as bp (literally 20 mins away in NJ, i was homeless in Morristown, NJ where he used to live if i remember correctly.) i've experienced very similar turmoil in terms of IV heroin cocaine addiction/ methadone clinic plus xanax, bipolar diagnoses etc, obviously not cancer. I solely speak from my experience in attempt to assist him. i emailed him my phone# and he never called. I know homeless shelters, food pantries, good aa/na meetings in the area hes from. to me it seems like he's playing the victim role, and that will perpetually disallow him the opportunity he deserves to overcome his present circumstances. I also thought i was terminally unique, and it seems like he may have a similar mindset - and the diagnosis/overcoming of cancer is unique; however the mindset of "im different, i need unique circumstances to take control of my life" is extremely detrimental to a recovering addict. I say these things because I did the exact same stuff...and i didn't change until i had traded everything of any value to me to self destruction - and was hoping to assist him so he did not have to experience the torturous empty existence i did. alas, it does not seem he will give me the opportunity to help.

I do appreciate your concern for him. Hopefully he finds his way.

I once was in the room with my sponsor and a sponsee brother who was also a good friend of mine. He was in "crisis scenario" having relapsed, getting arrested, disowned by his family, and lost his job because of his time in jail. He was freed of his physical dependence to heroin while in jail for a month. However, when he came out he blamed everyone but himself for his current circumstances, and was loafing on couches - not doing anything to better his life. He sat on the bed rocking back and forth (psych ward style) with tears welling in his eyes. "i wish i was dead, i'm gonna fucking end it, i cant take it anymore." My sponsor overheard this and asked him "you seriously want to end it?" My friend retorted "life isnt worth living, i cant fucking take it anymore, this whole recovery thing isnt going to work for me...i dont enjoy anything, my life is ruined, i'm done." My sponsor grabbed a pillow and smothered him with it. My friend immediately grabbed at the pillow and fought the older man with the pillow off of him. After some huffing and puffing, he freed himself from the pillow over his face.

My sponsor said "apparently you dont want to die, as you didn't allow me to smother you just now. since you're here, lets do some shit that will give you some relief...not the same type of immediate euphoric relief provided to us by a needle or a pint, but something that once attained is far less fleeting then the respite provided by chemicals...a life free of servitude to those things. Its going to be hard work, but i guarantee it will be better than how you're doing now... and if not the dope man will still be on the corner when we're through, and the booze will still be in the liquorstores. At the very least you will have lowered your tolerance so you don't have to spend 100's a day just to stay well."
My friend stood up, wiped the tears from his eyes, and had a different look about him. He still was malnurished and pale skinned. However there was something in his eyes. A fire burned deep within him, and it showed through the windows to his soul. He was determined to live better...and he did.
 
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^I do appreciate your help man, I really do. I know where some shelters are. I know where the food kitchens are. I know where na/aa meetings are. I have food stamps, so I can eat. I get my monthly disability check which isn't much but enough to pay formy psychiatrist and some other shit. I'm not playing the 'victim role', bro, it is juts the reality of my situation. I need some place to stay, and some people have came forward and offered me a place to stay, but now they have eveidently backed out. Once my friend moves into his new apartment in a week or so i can move in with him, and work for his construction business.

Also, I have NEVER blamed anyone else for my problems. I put myself in many of thse situations regarding drugs and am willing to do wha ti need to do to get myself out. It is a huge hole, and the fact is, I need HELP. I have NVER blamed anyone else for my problems. Obviously it wasn't my fault I got cancer, or my father died, but they all have attributed to my mental state and the quality of my addiction/life.. I also do not think I am different from any other junkie that needs help in this world. I dont know where you're getting yoru info from many but you're making a lot of mighty hefty assumptions about my life when you certainly have no idea.

I have superior court warrants , which is a main reason I need to keep a low profile. many shelters will check if yuoi have warrants. I know I will have to deal with this, but I am hoping my P.O. gives me one more chance since I voluntarily completed a rehab and if I get a job/house here soon maybe she'l just give me another chance and not go back to jail.
 
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well i hope you make it brother. hit me up sometime if you feel like it.

and those assumptions were based on how i operated in those situations, which were very similar to what you're going through now. I'm not saying active blaming or victim role or entitlement thought processes, but in hindsight i realize now some of those mental states had their hooks in my thought processes - deep in my subconscious.

don't let the past get u down, as best you can, its easier said then done. live in today and never look back. keep pushing forward. what will be will be. be like mike and just do it ^_^
 
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BDP, I'm really sorry that Bo never responded to you. What's the latest with your housing situation?

I really respect the tone that you and lilmizer have taken on to discuss what can be a really sensitive topic (for both of you and for all of us). TDS is for support and support means empathy and honesty delivered with respect. Respect should always have a capital R and you guys have that down. My respect goes out to both of you.<3
 
you shouldn't kill yourself but i can relate my dad got smashed on xanax and totaled his truck so any money he had to help me pay for college is going to a new truck so i'm contemplating suicide myself
 
Please dont go through with that mrflowers... <3 Just keep on plowing through life and dont let it bring you down.

BDP - how have you been doing since we last talked?
 
Stuck would be a good word to describe things. I've been hiding out at my Mom's house despite me not being allowed to stay here, based on the rules of the housing community.

I don't know what to do. I'm waiting for my friend to get his new apartment so I can move in with him, and start working for his construction business next week. HOpefully that works out, because that'd be golden.

Other than that, pretty depressed.. I have all these warrants and stuff again for probation so I have been debating turning myself in. . I dunno.
 
Hey Mike, sorry I just saw this thread. If you end up heading west, let me know. This is a good place with good people, and being outa the city really helps you focus on living clean and connecting with nature. Its some hippy shit, but I think you would benefit from it.

Could you just turn yourself in? It solves the having a place to live and staying clean thing, no? Are you able to stay on subs in NJ/NY prison? I imagine you will do some time, but you need to get that shit over with as quickly as possible, so it doesn't interrupt you re-building your life. As you know, I have 0 experience being incarcerated, I imagine it is terrible, but it's either now or later...

Also, don't even talk about killing yourself. I know that you are stronger than that. You beat cancer, survived addiction, some bad accidents, getting locked up. You are a hard motherfucker man, and I know no matter where you live, you will still have your body and your health to enjoy and appreciate. I know it doesn't seem all that great now, but give it a few more months and having a body/ mind not racked by drugs will be everything you ever needed to live for.
 
Really sorry to hear about your situation BP. My only advice would be to stay strong for the next week and look forward to being able to live with your friend and having a job. You may be in a shitty situation right now, but at least you have some light at the end of the tunnel. Once you get a steady place to live and work you'll be able to deal with your legal problems from a much less stressful perspective. Good Luck!
 
Hey thanks muv and Erik.. I hope the situation with my friend pans out, its not 100 percent but it sounds pretty good.. If it doesn't work out Im just goign to have to turn myself in and get it over with. I'll probably only get a 1 year sentence and with the time I already did this year plus good time it would really only be another 4-5 months. Not bad.
 
^^ Not bad at all really. 3 hots and a cot is a big plus. Also some places have reintegration programs for felons which can help set you up with jobs, housing, etc. They could probably at least get you released to a halfway house to help you out.
 
^The don't do any of that shit at the county jail. But state prison does haev a lot of programs like that plus you can do a lot of your time at a halfway house/long term program. Plus you can smoke cigarettes in prison. You just need to get a sentence of over 1 year and you go to prison. Anything less is county jail. Here in NJ at least. It's strange how it works, if I got 3 years in prison I'd be up for parole in 9 months, 22 days. Whereas if you get 1 year in the county, yuoi have to do 9 months plus 2-3 years probation. I'd rather go to prison.
 
Shit like this makes you stronger. As corny as it sounds, it's true. If you can make it through this, imagine what else you can make it through
 
^The don't do any of that shit at the county jail. But state prison does haev a lot of programs like that plus you can do a lot of your time at a halfway house/long term program. Plus you can smoke cigarettes in prison. You just need to get a sentence of over 1 year and you go to prison. Anything less is county jail. Here in NJ at least. It's strange how it works, if I got 3 years in prison I'd be up for parole in 9 months, 22 days. Whereas if you get 1 year in the county, yuoi have to do 9 months plus 2-3 years probation. I'd rather go to prison.

NJ State Prison isn't that great either, I been there. I had a 3 year sentence and when I came up for parole, they gave me hit which meant that they wouldn't review me for parole for atleast another 6 months. They can keep hitting you back and force the entire sentence on you. The only good part was that I was eligible for the Intensive Supervision Program so I was out before my next parole review. Also, the halfway houses are shit atleast the one in Newark.
 
^Yeah it's not fun man , but prison is definitely better than county jail. Plus you can always take ISP, like you did, after only a few months. It is always a possibility to get a hit for parole, but the prisons are so packed right now anyone with a flat sentence will most likely get paroled b ecause there are so many people.
 
BDP I am so sorry that you're in pain, I wish I could take your pain from you so that you didn't feel so broken.

I know we don't have a relationship but you're OD crew, you should post in our humble social sometime.

You can message me anytime man <3
 
Here in STL they got places for felons (regardless of prison sentence or not) that aim to reintegrate them, get them into housing, education, etc. The resources are abundant here if one knows how to find them.
 
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