If drugs make you happy, they're worth it right?

[tylerzsecret]

Addiction is better than suicide. So if i do drugs to make me happy when i would have otherwise killed myself, how is using drugs to escape a bad thing? And by worth it, i mean worth the addiction, legal repercussions, family being upset, getting kicked out, and so on.

 

[DrinksWithEvil]

have you tried getting on SSRIs? its not a bad thing until the drugs start to control your life. losing your job, losing your heath/wealth etc.

 

[tylerzsecret]

^^No, how should i go about getting SSRI's. How open should i be with a counselor?

 

[k.kat]

^Go speak to your doctor & tell him/her exactly how you are feeling.

 

[†∆†]

some people would say serious drug addiction can be worse than death, this is part of the reason that some addicts end up killing themselves even if they weren't suicidal prior to drugs

 

[AfterGlow]

The problem is that using drugs don't address the reason for your unhappiness. They just make it feel ok for a little while. When the drugs wear off, the source of your unhappiness is still there. Over time, you develop tolerance to most drugs and they don't produce the same temporary happiness. If you figure out why you're unhappy and you do something about it, you have a better chance of achieving a more lasting happiness.

Addiction is better than suicide. So if i do drugs to make me happy when i would have otherwise killed myself, how is using drugs to escape a bad thing? And by worth it, i mean worth the addiction, legal repercussions, family being upset, getting kicked out, and so on.

 

[Legerity]

Drug use does not make people happy. If you are suicidal and then perhaps the drug use is providing some relief, but I wouldn't consider that the same thing as being happy or content.

Are you in therapy? Have you discussed these issues with anybody? Maybe if you work through these issues then you will not need to seek the relief that you say drug use brings for you.

 

[Asclepius]

^They can be a lifejacket at a particular moment in time, but when situations change and your stuck and everything/everyone else is moving on...well its Nightmarish! Its like the proverbial 'Deal with the Devil' the price-tag far outweighs the initial succor.

 

[paranoid android]

Go to a doctor and tell them how depressed you are feeling. Make sure that they know this is not just a case of the blues and that they give you a proper psychiatric assesment. That way they can figure out what exactly is causing the problem and they can treat it correctly. There are many psych meds on the market today and SSRI's are just one group for treating depression as there are a few different kinds of anti-depressants. You said you saw a counciler and that is a good idea too because counciling often helps alot. Just talking about these problems can help a hell of alot.

As far as weighing the pro's and con's of getting addicted to drugs there is very little on the pro side. I don't know what drugs you where meaning to take but just about every recreational addictive drug comes back to bite you in the ass big time. If you think you are depressed now wait until you have to deal with that depression while you are in opiate withdrawal or something and that brings with it a black depression that lasts long after the drug and even initial withdrawals have worn off.

As for stimulants such as cocaine and various amphetamines they tend to make depression into total despair really quickly and will only make any depression you already have 100 times worse. Cocaine weather it is cracked up, snorted or IVed not only makes my bipolar far worse then it already is and makes my mood swings unbearable. Not to mention it triggers off psychosis and severe depression in even the most stable people so with me it made me a bipolar psychotic wreck after only very short term use. Everytime i took enough dextroamphetamine for it to actually make me feel high it made my preexisting problems seem all the worse and plunged me into a bottomslees pit of sleepless despair.

So yeah in my opinion using drugs to get high to treat your depression is asking for trouble and for a skyrocketing tolerance due to the fact that the euphoric effects of these drugs wear off very quickly so you need more and more to regain those effects. Not that they are ever as good as when you first started using

 

[theartofwar]

here's best case scenario: You keep use drug of choice, become addicted, somehow legally you have money to support your habbit 24/7..... oh shit now im not as high as I was.. why don't I feel as happy? Bam - add in another drug, then that shit isn't cutting it either.... time for the three peat.... sooner or later you get to the point where you are numb to shit. I started w/few percocets and ended up speed balling, happy? Haha I was farthest thing from happy possible - and I don't even want to begin talking about the shit that happened to get drugs, we've all been there in some degree.

Here's the deal, you seem really down, and depression is a very legitimate condition and can be treated with therapy, medications. It's important you step forward to a doctor and talk how you are doing - believe me the drugs will not last - sooner or later it becomes overwhelming and eats you alive.

 

[Lolie]

^^No, how should i go about getting SSRI's. How open should i be with a counselor?

Whether SSRIs are the most appropriate medication for you is something which needs to be determined by a doctor - for many people they're not the most appropriate medication. So go and see a doctor and tell them what's going on for you mentally and emotionally.

What you get out of counselling depends a great deal on what you put into it, so I'd recommend being as open as possible - a counsellor can't help you if they don't know what the problem is - but of course it takes time to establish a rapport with a counsellor and to feel comfortable enough to tell them everything that's going on.

 

[FreshFr0mDet0x]

This is actually a pretty touchy issue, especially as it is grounded in simple words that always manage to fail in some way, as they are subject to interpretation. What is "worth it?" It's really based on that word/phrase, and each's perception of that value is relative.

Some people live life to be "happy as much as possible." Others live to be "as successful as possible" (whatever that means; financially, procreationally [i madez up a wordz?], etc.) while others still "don't give a fuck about anything" and others still become suicide bombers. Also every combination of the aforementioned and the not aforementioned. In a whirrled of 6,000,000,000+ just about everything happens...

 

[paranoid android]

This is actually a pretty touchy issue, especially as it is grounded in simple words that always manage to fail in some way, as they are subject to interpretation. What is "worth it?" It's really based on that word/phrase, and each's perception of that value is relative.

Some people live life to be "happy as much as possible." Others live to be "as successful as possible" (whatever that means; financially, procreationally [i madez up a wordz?], etc.) while others still "don't give a fuck about anything" and others still become suicide bombers. Also every combination of the aforementioned and the not aforementioned. In a whirrled of 6,000,000,000+ just about everything happens...

Im not sure how i would define happy as it's a rather hard feeling to put into words. Ive been happy and ive been beyond happy. I know that sticking a needle full of morphine, dilaudid, cocaine or demerol in my arm does not make me happy. Neither does a botttle of whiskey or rum or chuckin down a wack of pills.

Happiness is when im content with life and i have the main things that i want and have a good quality of life. Those are just some of the things that define happiness for ME.

 

[ugly]

Drugs don't necessarily make us "happy" I don't think. It is just that they make us feel different, maybe even better, for a little while. Life is good, right? I don't think so. I understand why people commit suicide. I tried once, last December, with my car on in the garage but they found me before I could die.

I'm really tired of chasing, though. I can't afford it anymore. The economy, at least in Cali, has fucked my fam and I up the ass. I can't spend money on drugs that I have to spend on bills. So I just can't get high.

Sitting here sober makes me think suicide is a viable option. I am on Lexapro. I guess that's is helping me more than I realize. There are folks on this board who would love for me to kill myself. They may come in behind me and post DO IT.

Life is supposed to be good, it's a gift, I should love it, and I should be happy. I'm not depressed, I'm just not happy. I can't go anywhere or do anything. I had a nice little drug binge and its over. Now I have no way to have another drug binge. There's some alcohol here but I don't like alcohol.

I've tried church because that's suppose to be what makes people happy. I always hear people say that worshiping God will bring you peace. For a while it did. Then it wore off. Just like a drug does.

I can't commit suicide because my mom is 72 and she needs me. If I died now, I would cause her more pain than she could take and I won't.

If my mom was already gone, I have a loaded gun right here. Right now. I'd be gone too.

 

[Lolie]

I think that there's a fundamental difference between feeling good when you take drugs and being dependent on drugs in order to feel good. Each can lead to its own set of problems but I think that the person for whom drugs are just one of many things which make them feel good is in a less dangerous situation than the person for whom drugs are the only thing which makes them feel good.

Another thing I've noticed is that a lot of people have a hard time conceptualising happiness. They can't envisage what it would look like.

 

[paranoid android]

Drugs don't necessarily make us "happy" I don't think. It is just that they make us feel different, maybe even better, for a little while. Life is good, right? I don't think so. I understand why people commit suicide. I tried once, last December, with my car on in the garage but they found me before I could die.

I'm really tired of chasing, though. I can't afford it anymore. The economy, at least in Cali, has fucked my fam and I up the ass. I can't spend money on drugs that I have to spend on bills. So I just can't get high.

Sitting here sober makes me think suicide is a viable option. I am on Lexapro. I guess that's is helping me more than I realize. There are folks on this board who would love for me to kill myself. They may come in behind me and post DO IT.

Life is supposed to be good, it's a gift, I should love it, and I should be happy. I'm not depressed, I'm just not happy. I can't go anywhere or do anything. I had a nice little drug binge and its over. Now I have no way to have another drug binge. There's some alcohol here but I don't like alcohol.

I've tried church because that's suppose to be what makes people happy. I always hear people say that worshiping God will bring you peace. For a while it did. Then it wore off. Just like a drug does.

I can't commit suicide because my mom is 72 and she needs me. If I died now, I would cause her more pain than she could take and I won't.

If my mom was already gone, I have a loaded gun right here. Right now. I'd be gone too.

If the lexapro isint helping try something else. Also watch out for suicidal thoughts and idealations as some anti-depressants can cause this in some people. By the way i think your being abit paranoid about people wanting you to committ suicide as noone posts anything like that here. If they do it get's dealt with rather harsly.

 

[ugly]

You are right. No one has said anything about suicide. There are some posts full of hatred, that's all though.
I can't try anything else.
I can't afford it.
Once this bottle of Lexapro is gone I won't be on anything.
Lexapro works better than anything else. It is very expensive and I can't buy it.
I am strapped with ties that bind. My life is set in stone. I've lived it. I'm not living it anymore though.
I'm not doing anything anymore.
I want to step off the planet and I can't.
Thanks for your input about the Lexapro. I know about the risks, after having been on antidepressants forever and switching out different meds is something my dr has done if I was not feeling better. Lexapro has worked really well. I don't have insurance. I didn't' qualify for medi Cal. I want to step off the planet now.

 

[Zombartie]

No matter how cliche it sounds Nothing is Forever.

Rational thinking on this topic would be since Death is unavoidable by any of us, if you feel down why not take something that will make you feel better. However, the problem is Drugs simply speed up the process of dying. Abuse generally leads to depression and other mental problems and you die faster.

And of course addiction is better than suicide, unless you are suicidal and want a one way ticket outa here. Most addicted people use drugs to mask problems or help in situations, but they are not suicidal. I am not scared of dying, it is the thought of how devastated my family will be. They did so much for me, and I wanna be around to eventually pay em back for all the good things. No matter how one lives his life, I don't judge them. I dream of time when I will be older and helping my family like they helped me, and that will be when I experience the true "hapiness".

 

[OnThemThangs]

SSRI's are on the boo boo. Get On Them Thangs.

 

[unsettled]

If you're suicidally depressed and you're thinking of either killing yourself or taking a drug instead then obviously the drug is probably a better choice in the short term, in the long term they become problematic in every way imaginable.

Keep in mind that a psychiatrist will prescribe you drugs so you'll still be on drugs, I mean if you really want to be on drugs for life a psychiatrist is your best friend because they will happily keep you on a drug combo if it helps you cope with life and evens you out a bit.

In my opinion life is much more fun when you can travel, have relationships, new experiences that aren't dependent on drugs, easier said than done though.

Drugs are worth it to a point, once you pass that point it's time to face the music and make the necessary changes so you can live you're life the way you want to.

No one is happy all the time, it's unnatural, I think a lot of people are depressed because they have unrealistic expectations when it comes to happiness. Life is a bitch sometimes but it needs to be, just like you need dark to appreciate light you need sad to appreciate happy etc....

Read some Alan Watts or Eastern Philosophy or go to a psych of some sort or keep doing drugs, it's your life, live it how you want to.. figuring out what you really want is often the trickiest part.