Bupe If bupe isnt covering your heroin withdrawal low doses of benzos work wonders

[Jesusgreen]

Not to divert the topic too much but did you notice this synergy between Bupe and benzos to be more present when you had a higher tolerance (if you've experienced the combo with a lower tolerance too that is)?

I found when I had a low tolerance to Bupe I often took it with benzos and there wasn't as much synergy as there was with other opiates + benzos, but then when I got my tolerance high enough that I was needing notably higher doses and needing to snort/plug to get any effects from Bupe I noticed taking even the tiniest dose of a benzo sent me into that supremely relaxed state like my first ever times trying benzos and opiates together.

 

[purplehaze147]

Was that a typo or were you really taking TWENTY to THIRTY bags a day!? holy fuck man how did you even afford that kind of habit if you don't mind me asking!?

Pick up bricks & hustle hard & you'll get a free ride lol.

 

[The Doc.]

Wow I bet you still probably when thru a little withdrawals, right? I get China white here too (not 100% sure if it's China white, it's white though lol). I only do about half a gram in a day (25 bags) but the average heroin from Jersey is about 50% pure up to 95% pure. Most other states heroin is only about 15% pure. Jersey is a hub so it comes here the best and then it's cut by assholes.

Yea I live in Canada and was getting kilos so got around 80-90 percent pure and sold it to dealers in ounce or half ounces/quarter ounces then those dealers usually cut it up and made say one ounce of my uncut dope into 3 ounces of cut dope that is still killa dope when on the streets being sold in 50 bags to addicts unless another middle man cuts it down even more before it reaches the street. I worked for some Asian guy who imported kilos and he didn't cut the dope just sold it as is for premium price same with our cocaine. Those were the days having a kilo in front of you but then again I'm glad I got out it was a risk daily and I was so sick doing so much dope my buddy did 6-7 grams of the stuff too daily he would shoot a whole gram of the stuff all the time it was nuts he should be dead. I had to leave everything and cut everyone off to get away from the stuff and am glad I did last I heard that guy was doing time somewhere after I was out for a little over a year so I made the right move I can't do jail I would much rather die than do 5+ years in jail I mean fuck that I'm glad Suboxone came to Canada shit I was on dope for a decade and almost lost every thing including my life after almost ten times in detox and failing it seems dire but Suboxone came here just a coupe years ago and actually saved me.

 

[Erikmen]

You really should talk to your doctor about this. Maybe the amount of subs you are taking for each dose is not quite enough. Plus, doing dope when you're on subs is pretty much a waste unless you have a ridiculous bank account to compensate.

Does subs, like Methadone, blocks the effect of Heroin?

 

[The Doc.]

Yea it does way more so than methadone ever could even low dose bupe (4mg and under) blocks other opiates quite a bit. The bupe sticks to the receptors and could knock off methadone or ANY other opiate thus replacing it with bupe which is why you need to be in withdrawal before taking Suboxone.

 

[Erikmen]

I use 70 mg of Methadone daily and my problem with the blockage remains even if I stop it for a day, or decrease the dosage by half.
Some say it would take at least 72 hours until I could feel something from other opiates.
With Subs the blood stream timing is different, isn´t it? I mean, after a day or so, opiates would work just fine. Is that true?I´m really interested in stopping with Methadone and starting with something new, after all Methadone has a lot of side effects and it´s really heavy for the liver after few years. Not to mention tolerance.

 

[The Doc.]

Its all dose dependant with methadone and bupe but i can say with a dose of Meth like that average time is 72 hours and with doses of sub 8mg+ the same is true. If your taking 8mg sub(average dose of sub for heroin addicts considered low to some people) everyday then it would be around 72 hours detoxing to feel anything from another opiate and high doses such as 16 or 24 or even 32 mgs of sub will keep them blocked for a week or more some don't feel anything a month after stopping a high dose bupe habit.

 

[Erikmen]

Good info!

 

[potatodaddyHater2]

how long until you get addicted to bupe? more than a week straight? or 2? any guesses?