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If Bluelight was an island..

Folley

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What do you think our drug laws would be? How would life differ from now?



Would anarchy reign supreme, with an underground markets where "anything goes"? Or would we have sensible laws based on Harm Reduction to keep people relatively safe?

Do you think all drugs would be legal? Even strychnine, uranium and scopolamine? Or would "hard" drugs like meth and heroin be replaced by amphetamine and oxycodone?




Personally I think the quality of drugs in general would go WAY up, but then again I think being around other people who use all the time would really impact a lot of us negatively.
 
Hmm I personally think it would be a free for all. If everyone brought their DOC's and stashes with them everyone on the island would likely have access to drugs they usually wouldn't therefor creating new junkies. We'd most likely create a drug bartering system as our currency. Maybe if things got outta hand we could set up a mini government formed by the mods and whoever else we feel is fit for the job. I mean if you put a bunch of drug users on an island what else is their to do? Do drugs and survive lol. As much as HR is the goal of bluelight the fact is many don't practice strict HR guidelines. Also where will people get their micron filters, clean syringes, alcohol swabs etc... I guess we can have boats deliver loads full of drugs and equipment xD.
 
To be honest, I don't think such an environment would be sustainable. As Captain pointed out, it would be a free for all. You can't have a functional society when everyone in that society does drugs, especially in the manner that people do on Bluelight lol!
 
If I was on a deserted island I'd want a group of doers with at least a little bit of work ethic. You need diggers and gardners and people to make society work, not a bunch of self absorbed moochers who are too fucked to get out of their hammock and pitch in.

Grapes for wine, hops for beer and weed for the guy who plays reggae on a steel drum. Cocaine for anaesthesia during primitive surgery and opium for pain relief.
 
If drugs are our currency then we can set up jobs such as fruit gatherers, house builders, farmers etc with drugs as our payment. Make the amount of drugs we get small enough and we will have people asking to work to feed their habits. If this is the case we will need a sort of government. Think about it, junkies will do anything for their DOC when it comes down to the point that their getting sick. We would need to strongly ration our drug supply, no inflation up in this bitch! Also it's likely to be a sausage fest :p
 
Or I could just rule using my magic sceptre, keep the drugs for myself and make you all work for your lives.

The harem would be paid in sexual pleasure
 
Of course woman love drugs as well, I've always thought the male/female ratio of BL members was skewed towards the prior but I'd love to be proven wrong.
 
Make all drugs 100% legal & use at your own risk. Always card people who come in, making it 21+ only. Maybe weed & alcohol 18+.
Also, obviously, offer good harm reduction that's easily accessable in these "drug stores" (litterally). When u buy a drug for the first time there should be a little questionnaire u need to fill out before you can have your drug, just the basic stuff, so people don't do stupid shit.. :p After that they note your name (or u get like a membership card or something to your name) and the amount ur buying. There shouldn't be a limit to the amount you're buying, but if you're buying alot/too much of one certain drug, you can be given a warning which leads to being cut off (or detoxed, if needed) for a while for your own sake. Every person should be obliged to sign a form stating they agree to these terms, to avoid problems.

It would also need good addiction care, haha. Preferably one that's run by former addicts. They usually make for good therapists who know what drug-abuse entices. There are enough BL'ers who could detox someone off a physical dependency, while offering support. Or the latter can be done by a different BL'er.

In the 21+ clubs they should just offer drugs for at the bar, in different common user doses that are easily packed. There's drugs at parties anyway, why not allow people to know what/howmuch they're taking. If it's so normal to give people ethanol from behind a bar at a party, why not other drugs?

Must severely punish DUIs though! Would be better if they'd give different punishment for different drugs, and keep the dose into account.

Haha, utopia is hard to build, there's always something off.

"Usually things go wrong before they start going well."
Idk where I read that, haha.
 
Make all drugs 100% legal & use at your own risk. Always card people who come in, making it 21+ only. Maybe weed & alcohol 18+.
Also, obviously, offer good harm reduction that's easily accessable in these "drug stores" (litterally). When u buy a drug for the first time there should be a little questionnaire u need to fill out before you can have your drug, just the basic stuff, so people don't do stupid shit.. :p After that they note your name (or u get like a membership card or something to your name) and the amount ur buying. There shouldn't be a limit to the amount you're buying, but if you're buying alot/too much of one certain drug, you can be given a warning which leads to being cut off (or detoxed, if needed) for a while for your own sake. Every person should be obliged to sign a form stating they agree to these terms, to avoid problems.

It would also need good addiction care, haha. Preferably one that's run by former addicts. They usually make for good therapists who know what drug-abuse entices. There are enough BL'ers who could detox someone off a physical dependency, while offering support. Or the latter can be done by a different BL'er.

In the 21+ clubs they should just offer drugs for at the bar, in different common user doses that are easily packed. There's drugs at parties anyway, why not allow people to know what/howmuch they're taking. If it's so normal to give people ethanol from behind a bar at a party, why not other drugs?

Must severely punish DUIs though! Would be better if they'd give different punishment for different drugs, and keep the dose into account.

Haha, utopia is hard to build, there's always something off.

"Usually things go wrong before they start going well."
Idk where I read that, haha.

See when I pictured an island I pictured some off-shore island with nothing and we'd have to build this island up from natural resources to sustain our life, not an island with fully paved roads, cars, and nightclubs and such, although that would be nice as well. I pictured us having to set up our own little government, job market, and currency system to make shit work. I will say that if this is the case, our legacy probably won't last too long before shit goes wrong haha.
 
Far too many rules PilltoChill…… off with your head

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See when I pictured an island I pictured some off-shore island with nothing and we'd have to build this island up from natural resources to sustain our life, not an island with fully paved roads, cars, and nightclubs and such, although that would be nice as well. I pictured us having to set up our own little government, job market, and currency system to make shit work. I will say that if this is the case, our legacy probably won't last too long before shit goes wrong haha.

I didn't mean an island literally haha, just that we would be completely independant from any current governing body.


I don't think I'd want to be run by the Mods, though.. people'd be getting locked up for going SWIMing ;)



I do think there would need to be some regulations though, if shitty 10% coke was still sold by shady cartels then what would be the point? I think it would be much better if we had regulations similar to how the FDA deals with OTC drugs, so purity and dosage would be guaranteed every time. I do also think there should be at least some hoops to jump through before you can go shooting speedballs into your dick veins, just to keep people from getting too deep into something they can't handle.


Overall I think it would be a very free and easy going place, but I think if it wasn't done right there could be some SERIOUS problems.
 
Ahh okay, so basically our own seperate civilization. I like the idea of that but if that's the case we are definately gonna need some sort government or enforcement, regulations at the very least. Well there should be many needle exchange clinics and the such. I'm sure there are chemists around on these boards capable of synthing their own chems so maybe we could produce some of our drugs for purity purposes and have free testing centers for street level drugs.

I don't agree with the fact that we should make people do any rediculous set of tests and such to tell people what they can and can't put into their body, I'd stay in the US if I wasn't able to take certain drugs because someone else who barely knows me or my drug history doesn't think I'm fit. Intervention should be made after the user has proven they have no control over their DOC. There could be some sort of courses to take for each types of drugs I guess, but overall I think this should be some sort of laidback society with the only limitations being the necessary ones to prevent total chaos. I do still believe drugs should be at least part of the currency or something that needs to be earned because if everyone has unlimited access to drugs nothing productive will get done but it would at least be fun while it lasted.
 
If drugs are currency we should have holidays where all drugs are free or we get a certain amount of points put on a card for free and we have to swipe it whenever we purchase the drugs we want so we cant go to to crazy and kill ourselves during the holidays from the free unlimited access. Should be a crime to sell/trade drugs that are not a certain purity, bigger crime if someone is trying to push something that isn't what they say it is and its clear that they are trying to rip someone off.

Since we are all going to be high as hell all the time screw cars we should just ride bicycles/tricycles/tandem bikes, besides the gasoline cars today aren't very good for the earth. We could have bike taxi's, if we dont want to ride a bike we could just have electric smart car type cars that only goes 30mph so that way if someones does crash from being intoxicated they wont be going 70 down the road in a huge truck like how it is now...
 
Yeah, who needs cars! We can just ride these all day instead ;)

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we couldn't move the metric tons of crystal LSD without truck drivers though.. so we'll just need to give them a daily allotment of cocaine/speed to make sure they stay focused =D




I don't really agree that nothing would get done though, most BLer's are rather productive when not tripping their face off. I don't think we should necessarily have a currency of trading actual drugs as they'd probably become very dirty, but paper money backed by bricks of cocaine instead of gold is a much better investment lol.


I wonder how other countries would respond, most would likely embargo us and not allow their citizens passage to visit our utopia... but shit, if there is a will there is a way.
 
We'll have solar powered trains bringing the metric tons of LSD crystal in along with all our other drugs to different parts of our paradise. Stealing someones drug should be a crime to. Shit we should just provide nice lab set ups for people that is knowledgeable with synth's, have them make all our goods(for free shit they make) so all the drugs we consume we know is of quality. Grow poppy fields for our opiates, cannabis for all kinds of food/hash's, corn and sugar cane fields for alcohol, have peyote/san pedro fields for mescaline along with a mimosa forest for DMT, have our own MDMA/MDA press's. im dreaming at this point.
 
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I don't really agree that nothing would get done though, most BLer's are rather productive when not tripping their face off.

I'm not doubting there are MANY succesful BL'ers but things change when you have access to an unlimited supply of any drug. That's why drugs should be earned somehow like through a point system like the other poster said. We can still have cash but a system for the regulation of drugs should be in place. And I agree, we don't need cars.
 
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