idk what to do no more

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okay me and my boyfriend really need advice.. heres our story.. we have been on opana 40 er for about 6 months doing about 3 opanas 40s each a day... at first we stated out slow and was doing one 40 mg a day between me and him... now me and him are trying to get off this shit.. it has become hell... it has gotten so exspensive..spending over $600 a day.. we have been trying to quit and have reaserched alot to see whats the best way to ease your self down the best way.. our tolerance is so high its unbarable... the WD's are hell.. ive never been this sore. depressed. sick.. in my whole life.. this is hr 48 for us yesterday we did 10 perk 30mg and 6 hydrocodione 5mg.. and the pain was still there it didnt even help. we havent slept, cant eat, cant even get outta bed.. we both work and i go to school part time and im just thinkin how can i even get the energy to do all of that without the opanas? the phycial and mental pain and agony are unbarable to cope with to a day to day life. ive read that if you ease yourself off 40s with the 20s then the 10s to get off the 20s and so forth but i dont have access to that.. and subs havent help much. it doesnt help with the pain just with the mental mind set. its day 3 and we have been tryin everything to get comfortable.RLS is prolly the worst thing yet i feel so week, the WD's seem to be getting worse and worse.. does anyone have any advice to help us out. we both said that we wouldnt ever let ourselfs get this far and dig this big of a hole straight down to hell... i seriously thing think the WD's are worse then heroin. opana's are the devil.. but sometimes im just thinkin about gettin more opanas because they seem like its the only thing to take away the withdraws.. nothing is seemin to help me and my boyfriend.. PLZ if anyone can relate to this plz help me and my boyfriend out.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! what the best way to ease off of opana's what other drugs help the best cause we cant just quit cold turkey..

 

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OK, first, the 48 hour mark is the biggest hurdle, BUT, taking other opiates/opioids is counter-productive and merely prolongs your agony. To physically withdraw you need to be off of all. There are less painful ways of course, such as a graduated decrease but these require willpower. Having oxycodone (perc's active ingredient) and NOT using it once physical withdrawal sets in is extremely difficult. The alternative is to go into a clinical setting in either inpatient or outpatient and have a medical practicioner provide the graduated decrease with professional oversight. For example, on your habit it would probably take 4 days to get the right dose,, say 70mgs of methadone, and then do a graduated detox of 5 to 10mgs every third day until you are off without pain. Alternatives like bupe also help some people but at your dosage it isn't likely to be a good fit. Bupe has a metabolic ceiling of 24mg (32mg is offlabel but recent studies show 24 IS the ceiling). Therefore, people with low dosage usage and/or relatively short histories of usage tend to benefit from Bupe while others fail miserably with it.

The feeling of not having energy, etc., will change once your body corrects itself though, you may just be one of hundreds of thousands around the world- as I am- who must use everyday for the rest of your life. In that case, Maintenance is the answer. Everyone is unique so therefore you won't know before hand what works and what doesn't. That said, as a general rule of thumb, I would try to detox with Bupe. If it doesn't work, switch to methadone. If decrease is unpalatable then consider Maintenance. It allows one to lead a very normal life. Cheers.