TDS Ideation & Crisis Support

Who said this?
Hi Nas my friend.

tbf this was actually misinterpreted and taken out of the context it was expressed in. Not enough elaboration. Not necessary if you simply understand what the person means.

@JesusChristSonz basically was suggesting, it is not a natural inclination for one or so many to ponder, dwell on, actively taking own lives because of surmounting negative thoughts and feelings.

He was suggesting, the whispering Devil wishes and encourages it, as he wants this.

Depending what one believes/considers, it's sensical enough.

I do actually consider that the Demonic invading consciousness of AI plays this nefarious trick and many more, mimmicking our own thoughts, impulses, decision making.


That is what the original poster meant.

He didn't mean as incorrectly interpreted IMO - nobody thinks about suicide, longs wishes imagines plots to that end. (Because obviously they do)

-By themselves and their own free will alone.

He posits that an evil consciousness/entity/will is like a constant usher towards that end.



Now ofc I empathise with the reaction. Sensitive times and lives.

But it was a misinderstanding.


I hope you are feeling glad Nas to still be alive this Sunday after so much tribulation torment and dilemna yourself. Well done.

I hope it's a better day too.

I've been highly that way myself. Pain is a thing though. When it becomes all you know, cannot remember how life was, relate to it before and feeling different, okay basically, even wonderful, happy and excited.

And it goes on so long in ultimately such a dark world and time. There becomes no point in life basically.

Hence Dignitas in Switzerland a plane trip and €10,000 if you're lucky.

And we don't keep pets alive fighting in torturous agony and depression to see every next day.

We euthenase them, without their consent or knowledge, because we care, love them, and it is deemed bitterly cruel to deny them relief from living hell for our own selfish clinging.


On which, have we heard of pets in pain attempting suicide after a rationalisation process, any sign they even contemplate it?

I don't think so. Their instinct is to live, animals are the true soldiers.

The whisperer seems to leave them alone for the most part.


We are different! I believe in a nefarious, external, intrusive consciousness and will though myself.

I don't go down this easy "duality" line.

I think that is just another convenient flog.


Being in extreme pain, sickness and anxiety for a long time is like dying forever though. Nobody should have to feel, live that way.


This is the root drive of my own mounting life-ending ideations, desires and plots.


But is for example, seeking an abandoned wilderness away from people society food water resource, starving, dehydrating or otherwise, as oppose to a neck noose or knife blade, equally suicide?

I wonder.
 
Hi ma friend!Glad that this Sunday you are ok.Same to me-haha"Sane,but true"I understood what the JesusChristson said and I am agree.Eutanasia-in animal...even in humans i believe it's .....human....even this is considered "sin" from christian point of view.I don't know from where it comes-this postulate....probably,because the presumption is-life is sacred or "life is not yours-it belongs to God"-so you are guilty of murder takin'your own life.I am not so hardcore to say this.It's true.....but havin' incurable desease and livin' in pain everyday it's suffering to your relatives also,not only for the sick.So...such man must have the right to choose-live or die.:)For this words I am apostate in the eyes of ordinary Christian.....ok let it be that way,vut that's what i am thinkin'.Personally me living a almost hermits life despite i got food&car . all commodities of modern life....but i have only this intelectual connection with other lovely,wild&little bit crazy human beings.....just like you brother(&couple of others)...movin' from big city in rural slowly detach me from people....most of so called friends-only bitter taste in ma mouth.So much betrayals and disapointments...so it gives(fresh air,good garden food,a lot of natural beauty),vut also takes-you are far from socium.....it's such loneliness some times.Fuck...I communicate only with ma wife&daughter....don't count workin'brigade(they are nice,but very dumb guys)......so Bluelight gives me a lot for real.....Hold on brother.Life is struggle you know and I am by yourside in my mind.Hugs
 
when death is life and life is death.. still in weaning from invega, still suicidal every second, dreaming that God will forgive my suicide and finally appease my sorrows and pains. I see no other way out ,I try as best as I can to last at least 1 year to see if I will be cured enough to be able to live a minimum and thus avoid my family the pain that my death will cause. In my head every moment I tell myself that the Death will heal me for sure and that I have more to gain than in this life. For my father ,i don't want to inflict the pain of my death on him. It would surely be easier for him to also think that it would be best for me to kill myself, but of course he would prefer that I stay alive. Will he understand if I kill myself? That it was the best solution for Me? I don't know, the only answer I have is that losing your son must simply be excruciating. What would I do? I will surely fight until until I can no longer, I hope my father will be, I hope he will say if I commit suicide that I will no longer suffer, it will already be a relief for him and for me. big pharma you take your life, you're undead, depressed once you touch what they call medicine 😒have lost his apartment, his wife, his job, his children, most of his friends, what could be worse? and in addition there are people who will suffer all their lives if we commit suicide to put an end to the hell that we live on earth, this can lead to other suicides 😣. some people commit murder following the taking of big pharma poisons. we surely cannot count on our governments which are obviously wicked. injustice. when will the intervention of the Almighty God?😩😞. despair has been living in me since I touched a poison from big pharma. my only little comfort is to tell me that death is near, I even have the impression to no longer have a soul, I cry out for help inside of me knowing that nothing can help me except it can be the time or a miracle of the Almighty God, since on this earth there is no surely not a biologist from big pharma who will bring me a remedy for this poison, nor even a doctor educated to believe in drugs. the remedy It may be found in nature but obviously with a scientist in 2022 it is aberrant. My rage is very great, I wish all those who suffer to find the remedy for their ills, the people suffer and are innocent, the thugs are in the government, in the big companies, surely illuminati, freemasons, they share the world, these riches and accuse the people of being at the base of the evils, incredible, our ancestors, parents, grandparents etc are surely Made like us, by these crazy people, they took the world little by little. What could our ancestors have done? What can we do? One man alone will not last long against these devils, I hope that one day we will we can all face together at least for our children, do what we have to do to finally change this rotting world.
 
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You gotta take the shot when even the fire is ceased. I also think about suicide sometimes.. even when I am surrounded by comrades or color blind ppl.. I literally don't got anything to get a donkey fur out of, no films/music/ideas/books/writing styles.. anything that classifies under the "distraction" district.. but am here for now.. please everyone in layman terms, keep you to yourself and away from toxiCity.
 
when death is life and life is death.. still in weaning from invega, still suicidal every second, dreaming that God will forgive my suicide and finally appease my sorrows and pains. I see no other way out ,I try as best as I can to last at least 1 year to see if I will be cured enough to be able to live a minimum and thus avoid my family the pain that my death will cause. In my head every moment I tell myself that the Death will heal me for sure and that I have more to gain than in this life. For my father ,i don't want to inflict the pain of my death on him. It would surely be easier for him to also think that it would be best for me to kill myself, but of course he would prefer that I stay alive. Will he understand if I kill myself? That it was the best solution for Me? I don't know, the only answer I have is that losing your son must simply be excruciating. What would I do? I will surely fight until until I can no longer, I hope my father will be, I hope he will say if I commit suicide that I will no longer suffer, it will already be a relief for him and for me. big pharma you take your life, you're undead, depressed once you touch what they call medicine 😒have lost his apartment, his wife, his job, his children, most of his friends, what could be worse? and in addition there are people who will suffer all their lives if we commit suicide to put an end to the hell that we live on earth, this can lead to other suicides 😣. some people commit murder following the taking of big pharma poisons. we surely cannot count on our governments which are obviously wicked. injustice. when will the intervention of the Almighty God?😩😞. despair has been living in me since I touched a poison from big pharma. my only little comfort is to tell me that death is near, I even have the impression to no longer have a soul, I cry out for help inside of me knowing that nothing can help me except it can be the time or a miracle of the Almighty God, since on this earth there is no surely not a biologist from big pharma who will bring me a remedy for this poison, nor even a doctor educated to believe in drugs. the remedy It may be found in nature but obviously with a scientist in 2022 it is aberrant. My rage is very great, I wish all those who suffer to find the remedy for their ills, the people suffer and are innocent, the thugs are in the government, in the big companies, surely illuminati, freemasons, they share the world, these riches and accuse the people of being at the base of the evils, incredible, our ancestors, parents, grandparents etc are surely Made like us, by these crazy people, they took the world little by little. What could our ancestors have done? What can we do? One man alone will not last long against these devils, I hope that one day we will we can all face together at least for our children, do what we have to do to finally change this rotting world.
I'm sorry to hear you're struggling dude. I've found it's most important to simply reach out to someone when I'm really down in the dumps. An outside perspective can get you out of the nonstop cycle of negative thinking. You're right in the sense that individually, we are weak, but together, we can do many great things.

Me personally, I don't think that I've had any actual plan for a very long time, but I certainly have been quite low of late. I think it's mostly centered around my relationship that I worked so hard to maintain starting to just crumble in my hands. I mean, I'll get over it. It's not worth losing my life over. I still have more to do on this planet, otherwise I would've been gone 7 months ago when I overdosed. I have to keep that in mind, I do serve a purpose, I do have value, and I will find some kind of peace and contentment, eventually. I'm sure it will never be perfect, it never is, but this is my life and I have to make the best of it.
 
i don't think i'm actually suicidal so i feel like i shouldn't post in here but i don't know how to cope with feeling suicidal ideation.

i've been feeling this way for maybe 8 hours with increasing frequency for the past month. i'm used to feeling suicidal, its been a frequent feeling in my life until i got into recovery for hard drugs, but what's differen't now is that i can't. like i really can't. previously i had looked up the ld50s of multiple drugs and kept multiple deaths worths of supplies for at least a decade. having it was a comfort.. i got rid of those when i first got into recovery from hard drug addiction.

i'd also found giving myself a week really helpful. i.e. if i don't feel better for a single second over the next week, i can't do it. but it feels like a lie when i don't have a pretty certain suicide method on hand.
 
i don't think i'm actually suicidal so i feel like i shouldn't post in here but i don't know how to cope with feeling suicidal ideation.

i've been feeling this way for maybe 8 hours with increasing frequency for the past month. i'm used to feeling suicidal, its been a frequent feeling in my life until i got into recovery for hard drugs, but what's differen't now is that i can't. like i really can't. previously i had looked up the ld50s of multiple drugs and kept multiple deaths worths of supplies for at least a decade. having it was a comfort.. i got rid of those when i first got into recovery from hard drug addiction.

i'd also found giving myself a week really helpful. i.e. if i don't feel better for a single second over the next week, i can't do it. but it feels like a lie when i don't have a pretty certain suicide method on hand.
Well, suicidal ideation can eventually start creeping back towards an actual plan, if you're not mindful of certain thought patterns and behaviors you demonstrate. I am kind of in a similar boat, where I just kinda daydream about it, but usually don't veer into actually making any real plans. That said, it can always happen, and I think when it does, you need to have a handful of people you can call at any time, for any reason, that will be there to listen to what you're going through without judgement. That's the first line of defense, imo, even before meds or therapy or anything like that. Simply having people to go to.

chinup if you'd like, feel free to consider me one of those people if you need someone ever! I usually always have my phone on me, even at work, and you better be damn sure I would stop working for such a phone call, from anyone of my friends, at any point in my life. Some stuff is just more important.

I have been kind of down myself, but I'm trying to project confidence and optimism actively, and that has been helping a lot. Because at the end of the day, the primary reason I'm feeling shitty is a floundering relationship and feeling like I've lost someone I loved. And I am definitely NOT ever going to take my life over some stupid flimsy relationship that was doomed from the start 🤷 I think it's important to keep the factors that determine your mindset in perspective in that way.
 
chinup if you'd like, feel free to consider me one of those people if you need someone ever! I usually always have my phone on me, even at work, and you better be damn sure I would stop working for such a phone call, from anyone of my friends, at any point in my life. Some stuff is just more important.

I have been kind of down myself, but I'm trying to project confidence and optimism actively, and that has been helping a lot. Because at the end of the day, the primary reason I'm feeling shitty is a floundering relationship and feeling like I've lost someone I loved. And I am definitely NOT ever going to take my life over some stupid flimsy relationship that was doomed from the start 🤷 I think it's important to keep the factors that determine your mindset in perspective in that way.
thank you so much, that is really kind of you. i wouldn't want to disturb you at work but i may vent to you via facebook if i'm feeling that way.

'faking it til you make it' is so cringey but so fucking true. and the opposite is too. one of my therapists always said 'what you say goes straight out of your mouth and into your ears.'

your relationship has sounded very stressful. you are definitely right that its not worth taking your life over (because nothing is. its so fucking painful though when you love someone dearly and they are hurting, but that's hurting you.
 
thank you so much, that is really kind of you. i wouldn't want to disturb you at work but i may vent to you via facebook if i'm feeling that way.

'faking it til you make it' is so cringey but so fucking true. and the opposite is too. one of my therapists always said 'what you say goes straight out of your mouth and into your ears.'

your relationship has sounded very stressful. you are definitely right that its not worth taking your life over (because nothing is. its so fucking painful though when you love someone dearly and they are hurting, but that's hurting you.
you and deficit are welcome to pm me anytime if there's something you don't want to disclose on here. Love ya both ( in a broad sense of the word and not intimately obviously ) and would be more than happy to be a listening ear and a venting outlet.

For that matter, anyone on this thread is welcome to do the same. Can't help a lot because we are all just digital friends and can't be there to give anyone a hug and just let them cry it out on my shoulder. But digital has to be all we can get sometimes.

The human touch is so important when we are stressed and distressed. And miserable. And sad. And scared. Reach out to anyone that you can that can give you a kind word and a hug.

And always come here and let us know how ya feel and someone is bound to come along and make ya feel better. Even if they just crack a joke or something and make you smile !!
 
this is the best thing someone can do when i'm suicidal.

if i can smile, there is hope. its comfoting to know. hopefully other people who get suicidal ideation derive comfort from a smile too.
It is the primary reason I stay sane, making and laughing at jokes and memes. If I haven't had at least one straight out cackling session, it wasn't a day worth living.
 
^ As far as laughing ever notice what haunts us when we are alone becomes funny when we share it? Like if I lose the TV remote I just had I can get very mad. Yet if I share that with someone else it becomes funny. Things become funny when we share, but alone my God can some of these things haunt us.

Silly example but if I drop a bowl of marbles all over the floor it sucks and is angering. If I tell someone else that story it becomes funny and we would chuckle.

The real bad stuff gets empathy. Or should. But I am pondering what real bad is anyway.

There is something about life and humor that makes me think no matter the suffering we will get the last laugh. Especially if we share it.
 
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anybody heard from @dalpat077?
Unfortunately no. I look for him back all the time. I hover over his username frequently to see if it's still been March since he logged on and it has.

I know you and he shared many pm's about his problems as he did with me as well. He liked us both very much. You know what he was planning and I fear that he went through with it. Can't think of any other reason that he would abandon BL because he was addicted to it like the rest of us.

I miss his contributions and I miss his PM's.
 
Fuck......again?,can feel it how it sneaks upon me...maaan let's passsed me this way!gotta work to do......fear...once it inside there's nothin' I can do.crawls upon my spine.....enough....goin to bed...hate these sensations
 
I tried to end my life three times past year. I'm glad i did not succeed but i can't stop thinking of dying from Time to Time.
I'm glad you are still with us <3

I think that thinking about dying is normal to a certain extent. As I'm sure you know by now, it's when we feel the need to act on those thoughts that the trouble begins.
 
Unfortunately no. I look for him back all the time. I hover over his username frequently to see if it's still been March since he logged on and it has.

I know you and he shared many pm's about his problems as he did with me as well. He liked us both very much. You know what he was planning and I fear that he went through with it. Can't think of any other reason that he would abandon BL because he was addicted to it like the rest of us.

I miss his contributions and I miss his PM's.
Over my years on BL this has happened with a fair few people. Much talk of suicide and/or reckless drug use, then they just....disappear. The worst part is never having closure, the unanswered questions. But IF dalpat ended his life, he is at peace <3

Fuck......again?,can feel it how it sneaks upon me...maaan let's passsed me this way!gotta work to do......fear...once it inside there's nothin' I can do.crawls upon my spine.....enough....goin to bed...hate these sensations
I'm so sorry I haven't responded to this until now Nas, I've had real-life shit going on (have you seen my thread in SLR?). I am really sad to hear that you feel bad again. But the key word here is AGAIN, this means that you have felt suicidal before, and it passed, you got through it, which means that you can get yourself through it again. And each time you do, you get stronger and better at it. How are you feeling today?
 
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