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my innerself

my innerself

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I just have a few questions for all you speed, ice etc users out there.

1. I bought some good yellow rocks the other day and was told that the cook had put adrenalin somewhere in the mix. Does anyone know if this is possible and what effects would it have?

2. I've been told that the majority of ice gets cut with MSN. What exactly is this and is it harmful to my veins?

3. And just curious if anyone knows when you get wizz thats yellow, what exactly is the yellow impurity?

Something I have noticed is that whenever I score yellowish gear it is usually koota. Thanks in advance for any help.
 
Colours are to do with how it's cooked, i.e the precursors used and the method of cooking. Food coloring can be added in order to claim its "the yellow shit, 20 bucks more" or "ox's blood" (red) or something. In reality you won't know what you're using unless you test it, or know the person making it, or if you're cooking yourself.
 
1) It could be, anything could be cut with your meth. Not sure what effect that would have combined with methamphetamine or if it would be very likely though.

2) methylsulfonylmethane

3) Colour doesn't always mean the same thing. But most of the time its impurities so to me colour is a bad sign.
 
my innerself said:
2. I've been told that the majority of ice gets cut with MSN. What exactly is this and is it harmful to my veins?
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BTW, it's MSM. hehe... if it was cut with MSN you'd probably say lots of "wtf" and "lol" after smoking it =D
 
Ah yeah, the cook must've extracted the adrenalin from Hunter S. Thompson's ass from where it precipitated. It's a very complicated synthesis which involves 2.2moles of bullshit, and 1.3moles of poetic imagination :D
 
hoptis said:
BTW, it's MSM. hehe... if it was cut with MSN you'd probably say lots of "wtf" and "lol" after smoking it =D
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What exactly is this and is it harmful to my veins?
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You can google or wiki MSM, it's Methyl-Sulfonyl-Methane, a type of cellulose, leftover from the processing of bark / woodchips when making paper- fully natural thus I wouldn't think it's bad for your veins, but I'm just guessing and I must admit a little self-justification;)
 
I dont use speed, Ice, Meth watever you wanna call it but i do know alot about it =).

Yellow or any other colour is a sign of impurity, wich probably means the person who made it didnt wash it properly or fucked up in the synth.

Up to you but if i was gonna use crystal meth id make sure its crystal clear shards before putting into my body, its allready toxic enough who knows what solvents havent been washed of it.

And i wouldent be beleiving what your dealer says.... most of the time they wouldent have a clue about the drug there selling or its bullshit just to make a few more bucks.

keep safe and learn about things before you use them, thats how alot of people die.....
 
Adrenaline is often sourced via diversion. Besides being an endogenous compound, it is an important drug for treating anaphylactic reactions and other conditions such as bronchospasm.

However, if taken orally, it has little chance of being effective as it's very quickly conjugated and oxidised in the gastrointestinal mucosa and liver.

Many years ago a farmer friend was bitten by a redback in his gumboot. He initially ignored the pain in order to get the work done, but on his way back up the hill to the house his leg swelled up and he felt he was in serious trouble. He drove himself to hospital and despite telling emergency staff the pain had subsided during the drive, they administered him with the anti-venom. He had an almost immediate reaction to the anti-venom, and staff, in their wisdom responded by giving him two shots of adrenaline. According to my friend one was in the chest into the heart, and one was in his back also into the heart.

His comments upon returning home were that he'd prefer to die from the venom rather than go through that again.
 
^ how very pulp fictionesque!

As far as adrenaline as a cut - it sounds unlikely. Not saying it couldn't happen, but not really good business sense so not very likely.

MSM (aka dimethylsulfone) seems fairly benign. You can get it from health food shops (combined with other actives as arthritis therapy) and pet supplies. As far as IV administration - it's probably a lot less irritant to tissue than the meth it's used to cut. This is not definitely true, but I can't find anything to contradict it...
 
i could be wrong but im fairly sure that back in the day when i was doin my homework on meth i found that msm is quite common as a cut in crystal meth and that when it is injected it actually gives you a rush of its own? can anyone back that up?

i think i know the yellow rocks you are talkin about.. best ive seen in my area for almost a year. huge yellow shardz, really good hit, keeps you up for days, kind of an amber colour (tree sap)?? very deep yellow/orange and it leaves some black shit behind that taste like ur smoking paint. at 1st i thought it was left over precursor (same as what ever makes yellow speed, yellow lol) but now i think maybe its an intentional addition of colour much like we see with pills but not so much for marketing...

people will have a much harder time cutting it!! for the last 6 months before this yellow shit everything going around was cut to shit! i dont mean meth thats been mixed with cut and recrystalised, I mean rocks of bullshit thrown in with bags of shit that was meth cut and recrystalised!! poor quality stuff!! with the yellow stuff you couldnt just throw in rocks of msm or wateva cause it will be very obvious just to look at it.. friend of a friend asked me what he should use to cut it. i asked him wat for? for sellng or railing it up or wat... he said for selling and i kinda looked at him like duuuhhhhh fuks me!! how the hell you plan on gettin away with it hahah
 
Adrenalin is used by millions of people around the world as an instant treament for those people who have severe allergic reactions to insect bites or stings (such as ants, bees etc.)

At least three of my friends have Adrenaline in their car and toolbox all the time, just in case they get bitten. It is in a yellow package and is self-injectable much the same way as pricking your finger for a diabetic. Except it has to be injected, so it is basically stabbed into the leg (or wherever directed).. I've never seen it used, and I dont really want to either. It can mean the difference between life and death for an allergy sufferer

I highly highly doubt it would be inclusive in your substance.
 
hey bundi we definatley had the same yellow rocks, they were a dark amber, darkest rocks I have ever seen. Wicked rush too, I iv'ed 300mgs with 70 units water. Def best stuff I have had in awhile. I know about that other yellowy shit that was going around. I racked up some tick with my dd and later on told him to get fucked cause I wouldn't pay him. I accused him of cutting it and he denied it and said that it was just as bad for him cause he was using the same shit. I reckon if your gonna deal you should know what kind of shit your dealing so you dont get angry customers. I think were gonna get alot of good gear from here on to new years.
 
Hi all.
Just a point to add about the adrenaline. I have an allergy to shellfish, and one night whilst feeding my fish frozen food (which I defrost before hand in water) some of the liquid splashed onto a cut on my finger and started to cause a reaction. Anyway to cut a long story short, I went to the emergency ward at the local hospital, where I was administered anti-histamine as well as adrenaline. The adrenaline was injected in 2 small doses into the fat/skin tissue?? of my stomach - 5 mins apart.
A little later the Doc. came back to check on me, and said I should be getting a little drowsy from the anti-histamine.......my arse.....I was ready to go clubbing. It was crazy shit...
I also have another story of a friend who went shopping one night while his partner was lying on the bed in the emergency ward after being bitten by a red-back. He pocketed a vial of adrenaline, and used to keep it in the freezer. It would only come out on special occasions, and he'd only use small amounts ( to avoid heart attacks etc-I guess. Not sure on side effects for mis-use). But damn he sure looked like he had a ball on these times.
 
OK...

- Naturally occuring cellulose-based materials are not able to be resorbed by the body. Microorganisms within our digestive tract (entero-bacteria etc.) usually do this process for us when administered orally.

- As stated, yellow *probably* sugeests some sort of sulphur-based impurity within the substance.

- Adrenaline, as everyone has said, is endogenous (naturally occuring within the body), so is completely benign. What it will do at MOST is cause a raised heart rate (tachycardia) if taken IV/IM within concentrations of 1:50,000 or less. It can be uncomfortable as it is usually conjugated with HCl, so is an acid. The 'buzz' of the increased heart rate makes the consumer falsely believe it is better than it really is. Similar to the addition of caffeine etc.

- Anaphylaxis:
Basically adrenaline is taken via three IM injections, each of 500ul at 1:1,000 spaced over 15 minutes (e.g. via a self-administered EpiPen).
Antihistamine is prescribed to reduce the effects of the mast cell degranlation (releasing bradykinin etc.), which causes amoungst other things vasodilation and oedema (redness and swelling).
Some people also use drugs such as chlorphenamine as an intermediate between the adrenaline and antihistamines. The reason why is due to the cellular sequence of effects over time during an anaphylactic reaction. Some are for immediate management, others for the delayed response.
 
No problem lil angel15... Just have to know these things for work :)

I noticed that there have been quite a number of questions between various posts relating to the health area over quite some time. Once I get motivated I will put together some bits and pieces to answer peoples questions.
e.g. rolling and teeth extraction, rolling and grinding, sub-lingual administration and chemical burns etc.

Anyhow, off to cut some fun stuff ;)
 
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