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I.V dmt (first time I'Ving it) (alkaloid crystals extracted from wattle bark)

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Dirty_Deed

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Well I did it last night, out of whim and the fact I had some money to get some works and all. Before I start this report, the dmt I used was an extract from wattle bark, took me over a week to make it to the purity I wanted and the end result was a small cluster of crystals the same colour as ice but with a bit of yellowness on the edges. I would also like to mention that wattle alkaloid extract is not pure dmt, only around 55-60% pure dmt and the rest is n-methyltryptamine which is inactive. Anyhoo let's start this off....

I had bought my syringes at the chemist around 6pm and got back home and smoked a bit of weed till around about 11pm when my parents went to sleep. I got around about 100mg of this crystal (about 60mg pure dmt content) and dissolved it in a taplespoon full of saline. I found the crystals dissolved rather well in the saline, but I gave it a little blast with the lighter under the spoon and mixed it up for good measure. I then loaded up my fit, and wrapped my arm with a belt around the bicep. Slapped my arm for a vein, found the gravy train and hit home with the spike......

I was sitting on the floor of my room on a large pillow, and I found the onset felt quite gradual compared to smoking it, just a very quick shift in mood but no visuals in the first few seconds, then I found that my field of vision was filling up with the air turning solid. A crystaline weblike tapestry was filling my room and the lights and colours were pulsating very pleasantly. Physically I found a electric like charge centred around my lower spine and emenating through my body, though mainly felt it through what I felt was my veins, though this could just have been my mind more so.

Anyway back to the visuals...the room was gettin more solid with this tapestry until as if I had waited a very long time, in one split second, BLAM, I'm not in my room anymore. I felt as if I just got stuck in a vacuum cleaner and found that I had lost my sense of self. I guess this was ego loss as that is safe to assume. I found that I was the tapestry but was becoming a product of it. .....

A tunnel of aura white tribal pattern tapestry, weaving through the complexity and flying towards a destination I had the impulse to reach. The closer I get to this "destination" the white starts pulsing wonderful colours. I have no sense of "I" but from lookin back, I felt like a universal embryo being formed in a universal uterus then finally being born. There is no sense of time, no sense of fear or regret. I was an impulse, the essence of thought before it emerges as something explicit and rational. I finally arive at my destination......

From that point, it's like the visuals go in reverse, this I have never experienced...the come down was like a reverse....my field of vision diminished all this web like tapestry till my field of vision was relatively normal, sort of like the gentle landing equivelant of a hallucinogen come down. ...though soon after I felt nauseous and vomitted though found I felt pretty much 100% better after that chuck up.

I have a feeling I should have started with a much smaller dose for this little self curiousity experiment, but I have always been one to go beyond the recommended.

Anyway....can't say my headspace is all that great today, but then again I've been smokin this shit for about a week straight and I think this is my last time for at least a month or two.

Peace Out

Dirty Deed
 
One comment... you're going to want to recrystallize the FUCK outta that DMT, to the point where it is completely white/clear and utterly crystalline, before you even think of IVing it...

Did you do a burn test of this material? And if so, did it leave behind residue? If so, you didn't purify enough!

It's generally not a good idea to IV plant extracts, but then again people shoot coke all the time, and coke is notoriously more impure/dangerous to IV...

Did you do anything to the DMT to help solubilize it? Like when you cooked it up, adding a quantity of citric/tartaric acid.. or did you somehow shoot the freebase?
 
Okay to answer Irate_Scotsmans questions. The crystals to my knowledge are about 95% pure (roughly). I had smoked a bit of crystal in a freebase pipe prior to injection the day before. It left VERY little residue, a lot less than let's say most of the crystal meth goin around. I already described what the crystals looked like so please reread the first part. But to accentuate it, the crystals I have look WAY less yellow than the yellow crystals shown on erowid but not quite as pure as the pic of the ultrapure. The crystals formed strangely, nobbly squared bits with spikiness where the yellowness was seen (and VERY little yellow, just a hint on the edges that aren't too distinguishable). And I aint really anal about purity, I mean 5% or even 10% impurity is not gonna give me the willies. I mean I've shot up meth that was a lot more impure with crap in it than this shit.

to answer BZP TFMPP, the experience lasted little less than 10 minutes though naturally felt a LOT longer.

Peace Out

Dirty Deed
 
Ouch! hehe

Yeah I was wondering also if you converted it to a salt form first but i guess not. (like adding a little hcl acid enough to get it into solution and turn it into dmt hcl / neutral ph)

Anyway not that I know anything about IVing anything, but the one time i did IM some DMT (extracted also) I converted it to the hcl salt first (dissolved the dmt in a little water/hcl, let it dry completely, then redissolved in water)
 
I don't see why the fuck u would use hcl on crystals that have already been basified. Okay....look, my extraction was done as so....

I first grinded up the bark to powder fine then let it soak in muriatic acid that was diluted to ph 1.

I kept shakin it everyday and letting it soak up for a week.

I then filtered this with a tea strainer then through a sep funnel and went through this proccess four times.

after seperating the muriatic acid (which has the alkaloid salts absorbed in it) from the plant matter. I then put zippo fluid in the extraction and let it sit for a few hours. This is what they call defatting. These alkaloids don't dissolve in a non polar solvent like zippo fluid, well refined petrol I guess it is....anyhooo

After letting it sit, u get two layers, on the bottom is ur muriatic acid with the alkaloids dissolved in it, and the top layer ur non polar solvent emerges with impurities rising to that surface. Remove this layer and repeat the proccess 2-3 times. I did it 5 times coz I am anal.

Now, u get 500ml of water and add 15mg of caustic soda in it. I used litmus paper to keep checkin ph (it was annoying, will use a digitial ph meter next time) while adding this solution gradually to the extract. I basified it with this solution to a ph of around about 8-9.

After this, I got a glass baking dish, and put the extract in, and let it evaporate on the stove at a temp of 45 degrees centigrade for a few hours.

I only let most of it evaporate and noticed crystaline formation but still wet.

I let the rest evaporate naturally in my room and the next day found a nice clump of crystals that had formed. They were semi nobbly lookin like the pic in erowid of ultrapure but with some spikeness and a circular arrangement with very dim yellowing on the edges....sorta like some crystal meth u see around...anyhoo
there u go

that aint a full detailed idea of how I did it but pretty darn close


Peace Out
 
^^

Hey i'm not arguing here..

Anyway, the purpose is to convert the freebase dmt crystals back into a salt for injection. As a freebase its well, basic, i really don't know how "bad" it is for you to inject freebase DMT, but i'm pretty sure its "better" for you to inject a salt form of DMT as it would be close to neutral ph, and water soluable (well, a LOT MORE water soluable than freebase DMT is).

Really the only reason i'd want to convert dmt freebase back to a salt is..to IM/IV.
 
Visuals going in reverse, yup, I'd never seen anything like it either until I smoked DMT. It's so fast up-and-down and the visuals are so strong and obvious.
 
dirty deed would you be willing to write up, as precisely as possible, your extract method? It sounds extremely interesting and accessible for a layman .

hehehe, DMT for the masses, what a world it would be (good trip report by the way)
 
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You use citric acid etc to convert the freebase into an acid therefore making it more water soluble.
I thought freebase DMT was insoluble in water,but i don't know much:)
 
What solvent did you use for the final extract?

Zippo/lighter fluid is infamous for petroleum distillates along with the naptha, I hope you didn't use this horrid stuff. DCM is much cleaner and fast acting.

Sounds like quite a ride though...

Be safe
 
btw to yaesutum, I basified the extract to 8-9 Ph which is meant to be the natural ph level for the alkaloids. And once again, yes it does dissolve, quite well actually, prolly as good as clean meth.
 
^^Just keep your synth discussion vague please guys, no names of who's doing what. let's just be cautious and thankful :)
 
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Um,I'm not sure if i should be asking this then...delete at will.

Dirty deeds,I know your Au so i understand the availability issue with acacia maidenii...But,if you knew you were going to IV the extract,why not use something with only DMT??.
From what i know Methyltryptamine is active if only for 60seconds.
personally i'd rather inject JUST n,n DMT than an untried(
??) mixture.
 
well I'd like to get a source of plant material with JUST dmt in it. But as I can't afford any and the fact that acacia is VERY abundant here in the blue mountains, I thought I might as well go for it. And I haven't experienced any bad side effects of this extract other than the nausea from injecting it.

Peace Out
 
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