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I singned up for methadone treatment!

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K'dOUTinAZ said:
Can you do buprenorphine treatment with only Subutex?? I know, stupid queston but I know little about it and am going to get on it in six months
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K'dout - I am currently taking Subutex for treatment. I was on Suboxone the first month but the doctor said that due to my headaches he was going to try out Subutex. He explained to me that usually if you are a daily opiate user they start you off with Suboxone but because I have been clean for a while it wouldn't be a problem putting me on Subutex. I also like the fact that I get a month supply script and insurence pays for it. So you wont' have the same problem of driving to the clinic at 7am, if you find a good doc. Good luck and hopefully all goes well when you try to get off.

raoulduke said:
Who here who is on maintance gets high for 12 hours? My dose of 15mg at the moment lasts me for a good 6-8 hours i'd say but im going to increase it to 30mg, will that be enough to feel all day long?
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So you are trying to get high and not better, right? I didn't read through this whole thread but at the begining you said that you wanted to quit and didn't want your life to be horrible anymore and wanted to re-coup what opiates have done to your life. Now you are asking what you should increase to so that you can get high... heh...
 
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Um lets see.. I stated in one of my post that he was looking at how to keep it legaly. I did not say he was only looking for a way to get opiates. I said if all he wants is a way to get opiates then no advice would matter..

As far as um.. lets see feeling suicidal thoughts. and hating your life. hating to do anything.. Yea I have been there..

I'm almost 38 (december) and I have been usuing opioids in one form or the other from the time I was 15. I have been addicted to heroin, percocet, Hydrococdone, I have shot up fentanyl, hydromorphone. What ever my connection was I always took and abused that drug to the fullest of its and my potential. and if I haven't been able to find pills there was always heroin to fall back on... I Have been an Addict to opioids more of my life then not. I spent 15 years of my life drug free. I spent the other 23 using..

My high school football coach got me into taking opioid pain killers, he use to feed them to me, he and the local doctor who was the team doctor for our football team. Then when I played at Acren, The doctors there just feed me opioids. So I got all my scripts legally. But after college I had to start suppling my self- how ever I could. but hell I was a former home town football star, two time all-state right. It was NO problem for me to get my drugs.. yea what ever. I've had it so easy.. So guess what.. for almost 6 years I was on my own. Suppling my self.. Only about the last 10 years, sense being disabled, have I received my meds legally, and I can understand you wanting to have them legal... I could be on diladid if I wanted.. or anything else.. All I have to do is ask my doctor to change me to it.. I'm seriously fucked up, but I opt for Methadone because it works more concistantly and despite what you say... I take pills - They say "methadose" on them but there methadone- and I do get a buzz from them, and no I do not "nod" I know what a buzz is, and a nod. I KNOW what euphoria is. and believe me I feel it, have been all my life. Now as for knowing what a snot nose brat who whas lived probably about half as long as I have and understanding your bad habbit. That is Fucking up your schooling and making you not want to get out the bed, and making you feel like you want to die. No I wouldn't understand anything like that...


Don't tell me about whats hard or not knowing shit about people.. I've lost a Fiancee` to heroin. I had all kind's of people depending on me.. Everyone pressuring me to play even through pain.. shit.. I raise a son on my own while being disabled.. I have to keep my shit together maybe you just need the same. Yea if I knew then what I know now. I would have stopped using opioids when I could. But hey.. that's just my stand point.. So I want say anything else to ya.. Obviously you want to be on opioids and more power to you if thats what you want... You will still be just like all the rest of us.. an Addict.. your still going to have problems, The only thing its going to do is keep you supplied.. much like any of us would like.. but hey point made.. this thread is dead.. I've said all I have to say... Put my self in your shoes.. if you had walked a mile in mine then you would probably had given up by now hu!!!!!!!!!!!!

Later,

The Opioid Receptor!
 
my clinic is like KDOUTs...i simply walk in, and up to the booth, put my "number" down, and they gimme my dose to drink, IN FRONT OF THEM!!!i get the orange liquid obviously..ive triee the METHADOSE tabs before, and they arent as effective IMO...

IN TERMS OF DIRTY PISS TESTS>>>my clinic seems to not give a shit...now, if one is constantly pissing dirty, week after week, and he isnt going to counseling or most importantly PAYING, then he will eventually be detoxed..BUT, people who piss dirty, yet PAY their bills for the most part, and once in awhile drop in and kiss the stalfs ass, they get to stay at the clinic FOREVER..my counselor(who is gone now, he quit) told me that he would guesstimate that over 75% of the people at my clinic are using drugs, and constantly pissing dirty..yet, if they "try" to pay, its OKEY DOKEY according to clinic operators..basically, the clinic needs every dollar they can get, and the more people hooked, the better in theyre eyes..it is pretty HARD to get them to LOWER ones dosage at my place..i was on 60 mgs, and was nodding too often, and tried for several months to get dose lowered..they refused, EVENTHOUGH i was clean...i stopped goin to counseling, and stopp paying, and they put me on adminstrative detox..kinda whacky, but thats the ONLY way i saw myself getting my dosage down...im at 20 mgs now..

yeah, im like BLAH and NEGRO...at around the 36 hour mark, i start to get sweats and mild hot flashes..definitely by the 48-60 hour mark i would be getting pretty sick..i dunno, but EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT, thats all..i know people with nasty smack habits that have progressed(or digressed?)to shooting up ONCE a day..now, they shoot a huge amount when they do slam it home, but its AFTER they get home from a 12 hour day at the work site..when i was using dope, i HAD to have something to get me outta bed...even using $15 worth woulda helped..
 
unfortunate reality...

The first clinic I was on was exactly like that [Tampa Metro in Florida].As long as you paid they really didn't care what else happened in your life.They would let clients have one day credit [any day but Monday] but you had to pay for the credit before the following Monday.At times the 300 a month was a pain but less of a pain than scrounging up the green for 2 1/2 grams a day [200 per Colombian rock].In the end its all about the money,like everything else in the world.
 
Clinics can be really really shitty. And my clinic is no exception...however I just deal with it and go on...
I tell myself "At least its always there...always a sure fix...methadone clinic isnt gona get busted ...or run out...and it dont cost me 200 $ to get well in the morning"
No more driving to score at 4 am hanging out my car vomiting while I drive..
(really hard to be careful copping dope when you are that sick and cant hardly walk without puking/ shitting on yourself..)
Yah MMT is a pain in the ass but not as bad as trying to keep on top of a dope habit.
 
I hear so much about this diluted orange liquid crap. The stuff that I get at my clinic is clear liquid and my 115mg dose is literally only a quarter inch high in one of those very small cups. They have red sugar juice so that you can mix it to get rid of that HORRIBLE taste and make sure that you get all the methadonse down. That is the name of the liquid, methadose. Now, I have tried that orange liquid stuff because that is what they gave me in a detox treatment center and once in a hospital. Maybe the shit that I take is just pure methadone liq??
 
Heres an update on my treatment. Its been about a month. Im currently taking 85mg per day and my life is 100% better, my school marks are good to great and every other aspect of my life is back into place. Thank God for methadone.
 
The clinic staff are WONDERFUL, i get take homes, i see a doctor once a week in the first 2 months of treatment, the clinic is packed with patients and more keep coming in. Some people are bums off the street and come in and stink up the whole place other than that its good, and free of charge, because i've got insurance which covers it.
 
I don't think you realize the price you will pay when you decide that you don't want to be chained to the methadone. You went up to 85mg of methadone from a point in your like when codiene held you? I am glad you are happy, which isn't suprising considering your euphoria from the initial methadone honeymoon phase--I suspect you will not have these feelings for long. Anyway, not trying to down ya or anything, but seriously: I think you made a poor decision.

swybs
 
^I agree, thats why i went the suboxone route, but again not everyone can afford it. I would have stayed on heroin rather then going MMT. My veiw on it was eventually i'll get tired of it(which i did), go through the wd's and continue life. Although some people need that blanket of security and lack will power, to those who absoulutly have no other option then go on meth, otherwise there are other ways of gettin off junk.
 
guys, raoul wasn't just using codeine. the cat used to get OCs and i remember when he was banging dillaudid. i think that you guys are taking one thing that he said (when codeine was all he had, so he was taking it) and making that his reality. it isn't/wasn't. stop doggin' the guy out. he's trying, and by the sounds of it, he's doing really well.

congrats raoul. g/l with MMT.

kemikals; it's not always about will power either. i have a very successful company, a son, i'm going through a divorce and live with my g/f. i haven't got the time and/or energy and/or luxury to kick any other way right now. i can't be 'sick' for any period of time. nobody's going to take care of me. i can't stay in bed for 2, 3, 4 or more days. my son has to get to school. my office has to open it's doors in LA and SF, and i'm the main man. MMT is literally saving my ass. i get weekly take-homes, so i go once a week, get hooked-up, and get to go on with my life. when i'm ready, i'll detox. i don't WANT to right now. i'm on MMT, but it has nothing to do with will power, or a lack thereof.
 
raoulduke said:
Bullshit name-calling and stupid comments removed.

Unedited version sent to Worst of Bluelight forum.

Go off on a poster like that again and this thread gets locked, raoulduke.

-BlueAdonis
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where is this Worst of Bluelight forum?
 
Don't listen to people who are trying to down you Raoul. If MMT is truely keeping you clean of drugs (which you say), and has improved your quality of life....then congradulations! You made a good choice. You decided to stop using illegal street drugs, and I can't believe people are actually critizizing you for it. Maybe your tolerance is low, but this doesnt mean that your opiate addiction was petty. I hope you stay on MMT until you are stable. I myself have just gotten back on MMT. My habit, or tolerance, is a little larger than yours per say...but we both are in the same boat right now. Perhaps you might try to taper down and switch to buprenorphine. It would probably work very well for you, and you wouldnt be tied down to the clinic. I tried it for 6 months though...and even at 32 mgs it didnt hold me. Congrats on deciding to live a better life. Good luck

-burnz-;)
 
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