i need some advice, or whatever....

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well nevermind, i just spent an hour and a half pouring my heart and soul into this fucking box, and the stupid fucking laptop keyboard hit the back button and i lost it all.
anyone ever have that happen?
well, when it comes to my probation should i tell my po i smoked, or lie
my sample got sent to the lab today after failing 2 dipsticks, i diluted heavily in the hours before hand
between 11 and 3:30 i drank, a half gallon of water, a 16 oz amped energy drink to get some caffeine and vitamins in me, a half a bottle of sobe tea, and 6 16.9 fl oz water bottles. along with a lot of b12 and b complex vitamins
i seriously pee'd 20 times before going there, not exaggerating, i was going every 5-10 mins, i was actually starting to worry that i drank too much, but i will fight to the death for my freedom, so my horrible headache and swollen body were supposed to be worth it.
it had been 3 or 4 days since the last use, im 20 6foot3 and only 150lbs
im on for 4 years, all my family is 1000 miles away, and the only person i have is my amazing girlfriend.
she waited on me through jail and rehab, and had an apartment ready when i got out.
i used to be bad into pills, have avoided them for the most part except for a week long relaspe which caused a lot of pain for both of us, along with your usual WDs and fun that comes with heavy opiate abuse.
i avoid pot because of the long detection times, but i have always used it to self medicate my depression, been smoking alot since i was 12(first time i was 9 or 10)
sometimes theres nothing that calms you down like a few tokes, or cheers you up, whatever
anyway, i was a lot more descriptive and detailed earlier, but i was on the verge of crying the entire time and i cant do it again. ill address anything left out if anyone has questions or the likes...

when i was 18, i almost went to prison for stabbing someone, it was self defense-ish, i'm a tall scrawny kid and i had a grown man/meth head punch me in my face then start choking me saying "i'm going to break your neck motherfucker, i'm going to kill you" so i did what i thought was necessary to protect my life.
it wasn't jack the ripper status (it was in the left hip/ back around the kidneys/liver, but it didnt penetrate straight in, the deepest wound 9cm deep)
but it was enough for me to go to jail and almost prison.
i could have beat it too, but after 5 months i plead to felony battery and got 6 months, as opposed to their initial deal of 36 months, or taking it to trial with a public defender and getting the max.
i was only 18, i was protecting myself, i wont lie, there was some aggression too, but what would you do in that situation? if i wanted to really harm him i could have, but i'm so greatful that i didnt.
anyway, because of that the states attorney has a hard on for me, because he couldnt bust me for that, he tried to give me 2 years for something waaayyy less serious, that they technically couldnt prove, "how can you prove whether or not someone knew something was stolen before selling it, especially if you can't charge them with the actual theft?
florida is a backwards ass state when it comes to the legal system, and quite a few other areas too...
not to mention the county i'm in is all about the money, they don't give a fuck about anyone or anything other than money and maintaining their rich white image.

anyway, here i am now, sorry for getting into all that, idk why i did really, to let you know why they are soo hard on me. i also have an extensive juvenile record which they also frown upon...

so back to the point, my test barely had enough pee in it, if it even did for the lab, but i'm pretty sure its going to come back as dilute positive, hopefully they reject it, or its waaayyy too diluted and they ask for another, but knowing my lcuk this wont happen.
should i tell him i smoked, maybe not say all month, tell him i had a slip up, and beg for mercy, or should i wait out the lab and see what happens. i know if i admit i could get violated a lot sooner and that would result in a warrant much more quickly.
i dont want to go back to jail, i know i shouldnt have smoked, but i have been doing so much better, i recently had and amazing experience, ++++ and i found god, not literally, but i felt that oneness, and i knew everything was okay, that everything was one, and that i was part of it, and that everything would be okay.
i'm not afraid of death anymore, only dying without having lived a fulfilled life.
i refuse to be put back in cage like an animal, especially if its going to be more than a few months.
i cannot lose everything again, i barely have anything as it is.
if not for my gf, who has done and sacrificed so much for me, i wouldnt be here, i would have ended this awhile ago.
if i get sentenced to prison, i WILL kill myself.
its a done deal.
i wrote several letters and recorded an hour long video for my everyone in case i just decide to say fuck it soon.
i hate to say that, it kills me so much, but i refuse to waste my life further enslaved than i already am.
let alone, i can barely deal with the guilt as it is, is kills me that i'm not in bed next to her right now, but i know if i go in there, all i will be thinking is "how many more nights with her will i have, how many more times will i wake up next to her beautiful face.
i'm tired of hurting myself, and the worst part is i realized all this on my last trip, which was he last time i smoked.
i mean, its so easy to lose sight of things, and when you realize you did its often too late, at least in my case.
i also think that in the next couple of years there is going to be some seriou shit going on in the world, i'm not all 2012 paranoid, i just think its obvious, plus,
i can grasp the fact that were on a big rock, flying around a ball of fire, furthermore circling a gigantic black hole at the center of our galaxy, which is only one of billions of others flying through the universe. shit is bound to happen, especially when tiny shit like comet ELEnin can cause shit like what just happened in japan, and i DO NOT, want to die in prison or jail during some shit like that, not to mention, i'm not a violent rapist or murderer or crack dealer, i'm a fucking 20 year old kid with some problems and fancy for the gonzo lifestyle..
i cant stand the thought of being thrown in a cage and leaving my girlfriend behind, especially before i get to show her how much i love her, and do for her everything she has done for me.
and the pain of my family, my little brother and sister, who are waayyy too little to understand these things, or jail even....

if things look their worst, should i run, and hope i can ride it out until something gives, ive been wanting to go live off the land for awhile and travel anyway, get some life experience, get a little closer to the planet that gave me life.
or should i see what they offer, of course, ill have to wait in jail in the meantime, and i really dont want to see my gf in a jumpsuit, talking through a video monitor, knowing shes only 45 mins away from me, along with the rest of the world, while the real criminals in this world keep getting richer, free to exploit everyone as they please.
or should i say fuck it, life my life for the time being until that warrant comes out and they get me(if it does) spend as much time enjoying myself and making the ones i love happy, then off myself and hope for the best.............and an afterlife lol
i know it may not seem like a laughing matter, but ive been crying all day, and im just sick of all this.
im not trying to get attention, so please dont give me shit, or tell me to calm down, this is my fucking life, real life, not a fucking joke, so dont take it that way.
when i finally come to peace with the world this happens, and its taking everything in me not to freak the fuck out right now.
i just dont know what to do, i cannot continue to go in and out of jail for drugs, especially not pot.
if i was shooting up, or sucking glass dick everyday thats another story, but thats just not the case.

i'd rather die while i have a good mindset towards life and the universe, having known and loved the girl of my dreams, and without having caused or endured more suffering
than live a life of pain and misery, where on my deathbed i look back and have nothing but regrets. i dont want to do what my dad did.
im so sorry for all of this shit, but you cant always blame someone, especially when they didnt know better, or didnt mean any harm.

i just want some advice, opinions, someone to say something.
im slowly losing it here, and im not afraid anymore......

on another note, i had a funny realization last night i believe;
i was taking a leak, and i realized that the beauty of life is death.
i was wondering why i always have that moment right before the shit hits the fan, i can never realize it before i buy the pet monkey or turn on the fan.
if life was always good, we'd never know the difference, wouldn't be able to appreciate it.
and it dawned upon me
thats why they call it "whizz-dom"

if you read all of that thank you so much, even if you dont respond, it still makes me feel better

and i just got to the rules, sorry, i type faster than i think, if this is wrong place, let me know, i apologize in advance
if there is no area for this, go ahead and delete
sorry again

would this be considered darkside material?
still exploring the rest of BL so im not sure
 
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This is some really deep stuff. I'm sorry I can't really offer you much advice, as I have very little experience along the lines of the thing you discuss, but have you thought much about trying to get into a rehab/program in order to avoid going back to prison? This is assuming you're screwed thanks to the bad UA. Even in a state like Florida, I would think the courts would look very favorably upon those trying to get better on their own initiative (even if you're only doing it to avoid incarceration, it's not like they need to know this...).

Hope things start getting better friend. My heart goes out to you. You've suffered so much already, that's pretty clear.
 
well thats just the problem, i've already been to rehab, i got out in october
i really don't need any more rehabilitation, well not for drugs at least, i've been having that shit get pounded into my head for years and i've been lurking sites like this and erowid for years, so i can distinguish between their propaganda, and the real harm/danger that comes from drugs

exercising self control is what i need to do, but i think it may be too late for that
 
does Florida have a Drug Court program? Here in PA, many folks are sent to Drug Court if they piss dirty (while on probation/parole) and a coupla folks I know even pissed dirty twice while involved in that program without being sent to jail. Sorry I don't have time at the moment to research FL but here is a link to The Office of National Drug Control Policy's site
 
they have drug court, but i dont qualify for it, they reserve it for misdemeanors and first offenses
i'm on drug offender probation, and this was a gift from the judge, because i told her i wanted to better myself, which i was and still am doing, how can i explain that to them though?
plus, they are a lot rougher down here than up north, i'm from delaware and i wouldnt have received nearly as much of a sentence had i been somewhere else, they're a bunch of good ole' boys down here, with the southern justice and what not
 
as opposed to rehab, what about sober living? Courts seem to treat that the same as rehab ime. Don't mean to beat a dead horse though, as if it's not what you want, well, it's not what you want. Good luck!
 
yeah, i get that part, and for the most part i try to be sober, like i said, it was a mistake, i dont intend for it to happen again, but my question is how i should handle the situation at its current state?

you think i could ask them to like, send me out of state, tell them i have too many bad people and memories and not much support here, like, maybe see if they can transfer my probation.
is it possible for me to get exiled from florida?
if so, where do i sign up? lol
i'm gonna do some research, and check back shortly
 
Well, from past experience just moving geographically doesn't solve your problems cause it doesn't address them. It's just yet another form of how we run away from them, how we're in denial about them, etc.

Good luck man, looking forward to hearing what you find out!
 
i'm not afraid of death anymore, only dying without having lived a fulfilled life.
i refuse to be put back in cage like an animal, especially if its going to be more than a few months.
i cannot lose everything again, i barely have anything as it is.
if not for my gf, who has done and sacrificed so much for me, i wouldnt be here, i would have ended this awhile ago.
if i get sentenced to prison, i WILL kill myself.
its a done deal.
i wrote several letters and recorded an hour long video for my everyone in case i just decide to say fuck it soon.
i hate to say that, it kills me so much, but i refuse to waste my life further enslaved than i already am.

Hi ss, this is the part of your post that has jumped out at me, as I have no experience or knowledge of the US judicial system so I am unable to comment on that.

I strongly urge you to reconsider having suicide as a back-up plan if (IF!) you receive the sentence. 4 years is the period of time they have stated at this point, but there is always possibility of early parole so it might not be for that long.

All of that aside, a person's life, YOUR life, is approximately 75-80 years long. In the grand scheme of things, 4 years is not that much. I know it's really hard to view it that way with what you're currently facing. But I really hope that you eradicate from your mind that suicide is a possible option. It is NOT an option. Think of your girlfriend. Think of all she has done for you and how much she has stuck by you. Think of how utterly destroyed she would be if you killed yourself. It would ruin her life and she would be left with no-one. What would SHE want you to do if you go to jail? She would want you to be strong, to live out your sentence, and to get out of jail a safe and healthy man ready to conquer the rest of your lives together. Please think about that man.

Best of luck with court, let us know how it goes, and take care of yourself <3
 
well, idk what i'm gonna do.
i failed the test, i asked what was going to happen and he couldn't tell me.
its not like they would if they could anyway.
the system doesn't give a fuck about me, or any of us for that matter.
they make more money off of me as an inmate than i do in a year.
i dont have many options, if i run i'm still going to hurt everyone, and if i stay i'll still be hurting everyone, and ruining my life once again.
any advice on places to try and go to?
or ways as to how i should handle this matter, please don't tell me to go and do the time, its not rational at all, not going to lose my freedom ever again, especially not for $20 and a failed drug test for THC.
give me liberty or give me death, it sucks that its come to this.
everyone i love is going to be hurt either way, i'm losing everyhing either way, so why not take a chance.
 
Do the time. You're from Florida? What are you gonna do run away? Thats a 4 year sentence all on its own evading the police, and they have a fancy name for it too I saw tons of guys behind the wall serving time concurrent for that along with their original charges. Seems they catch most of them.

I've served 2 years myself. And if you were doing drugs while on probation/parole I'm not sure what you expected to happen. You view it as a minor mistake, its not. I couldn't read through your entire post but have you ever served time before?

Being on parole or probation is like being an inmate already (I know when you're on parole you're technically still considered an inmate even when free), except you're allowed to live on the streets. You have to treat it as a serious matter and not eff around because they will revoke your probation/parole w/out the slightest bit of mercy. Those are the laws, not sure what you thought would happen.

I've messed up myself while on parole (multiple times) but there are still things at that point you can take to still pass the tests. If I planned on going in with a dirty urine, I would have skipped probation/parole all together and called in and made an excuse like my car broke down, can I come in another day? Then flush your system out.

Doing time is not fun no but I'm telling you straight up running from the law is one of the stupidest things you could possibly do. You better be prepared to leave the country because they will chase you into other states and you will have a warrant out for your arrest. Plus the fact that you WILL also wind up serving even more time when you're caught.

Honestly you made a mistake. You knew the rules, so my advice is do the time. If you don't like that advice thats expected. But good advice is not always whats going to feel best for you immediately. In the long run you are going to really fuck yourself over. I've delt with the law countless times, they do not mess around. If you really want to hide I suggest you get as far away from Florida as possible. Maybe head over to texas by the border. Although if you get pulled over in texas they can still pull up that you're wanted in Florida for violating probation.

I'm telling you if you're not prepared to leave the country altogether you're best bet is to just serve the time. Apologize, tell them you have a problem, be genuine, they are not all cold pretentious pricks. Its the ones who try to hide shit, and try to get over on them that they throw the book at. You're really setting yourself up here imo.
 
i ran, im not in the lame FLA anymore.
i'm not the best, but i'm okay.
gonna make shit happen, only i can make myself happy.
ant the plans they have are for someone other than myself, so they won't work for me.
to rationalize injustice is to perpetuate its evil, and i cannot do it any longer.
i'm free, and that's all i will ever be...
 
Good to hear back from you, and I'm glad you're in a good headspace now. Good luck with everything, is the court case all over and done with? Let us know how you're going <3
 
uh, you could say something like that neo, i'm over and done with it.
i'm still trying to get over somethings, i did leave, and if you read that means you know i have tons of guilt and pain.
i had a breakthrough with my life, but the thing is once you learn somethings, the things that you could call "absolute" just for this purpose, you can't go back.
i have an idea as to why i'm here, whether scientific or spiritual, or somewhere in between, but i feel like i cannot accomplish what i was made for because of certain decisions i have made.granted i wouldn't be the same, but somethings i would risk if it meant not hurting others.
i know i'm in the now, but how can i live in the present if everyone wants me to live in the past?
 
Hi ss, again, it's great to hear back from you and that you're actually not in jail. I'm sorry to hear that you've got some guilt about the decisions you've made but (at the risk of sounding cliched) that is all part of life man. As long as you don't let it get in the way of you living your life, you'll be fine <3

i know i'm in the now, but how can i live in the present if everyone wants me to live in the past?
Good question...I'm sure this is something a lot of us here in TDS have to battle with at some point.
The best answer I can give is that you should aim to live your life for yourself, and try to not let others affect the way you live, or the paths that you choose, or the mindset that you want to be in. YOU are in control :)

So what are your plans from here?
 
i know i'm in the now, but how can i live in the present if everyone wants me to live in the past?

As inmates say; "Do your own time, nobody is gonna do it for you."

If you had taken it to trial, its likely you'd be free. The problem is actually getting to the jury part..... the process is long enough, but prosecutors know that the vast majority of people with bullshit charges arent going to sit around waiting. So they put everyone on ice for months, and then they'll cop to a bullshit plea deal just to get out. And it's an easy, inexpensive way to clean questionable cases off their books.

FWIW..... the first charge was uncalled for; but you decided to smoke dope while on a leash, and then fear of being brought down justified your running.
The thing is, with the law..... it doesn't matter what *you* think is fair, or what *you* think might happen. Once that judge makes a call, you just gotta sack-up, do what they say, and then do your time in whatever manner prescribed..
So now..... you've got a felony evading/escape charge, at the least.

I suggest you cut your losses, contact a lawyer, and offer to turn yourself in. At least then you'll be able to see a little of what's coming down. You're still young, but right now you're just setting up for even longer time inside.

Being locked up for a little while won't kill you or ruin your life.... unless you let it.
You already proved you've got the sack to carve on a raging tweaker while the bastard tried to cave your windpipe..... which means you're more capable than you think. The blade may have been an equalizer, but the point is you can still fight while shit is looking grim. Just use your head, stop running scared, get some help, and then take care of those charges.

And for fuckssake, don't do any more drugs... if anything, it's because they're just plain cop-magnets.... along with broken taillights
8)
 
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don't do it bro. your only hurting the ones who love you.

trust in GOD! you'll be suprized when your back on the street in no time. you'll be happy you didnt.
 
Good to hear back from you, and I'm glad you're in a good headspace now. Good luck with everything, is the court case all over and done with? Let us know how you're going <3
Well it took sometime, but i'm back. well, not in florida, but here on the site and mentally. I have a dog now, she was born in denton texas shortly after i met up with my friends to travel the country. november 29,2011 is her birthday, and by december 1 of 2012, i had taken her to and through 39 states with me. I have a fiance that i actually met in florida, i swore i wasn't going back but there was a gathering in ocala 2 years ago, and this is where i met my beautiful lady. we now live in a house that's WAY TOO FUCKING BIG, and expensive, but our lease is almost up, we're about to get a new place. I got to travel the country, and even though i was homeless i was almost always on top of my shit, i became an alcoholic for a bit, too the point of seizures and what not, stopped that, od'd in an attempt to kill myself in february of last year, found out i have hepatitis c, i have a car now, that we bought in california last year after flipping our Jimmy on a mountain road, i got to go work for my friends in cali, was nice to see my childhood friends doing it right, 2 properties, 2 99s, got to smoke tons of pot, trim pounds, hangout with people i consider family, and was actually around this year for christmas with my lady. Sorry, just had to say that even though that darkness still often lingers over my head, i'm at a point in my life where i'm ready to get some shit done so i can do what i want, and help everyone i can along the way. :)


Oh, and as for the legal matters, i had a dream that shortly after leaving fl, (less than 24 hours) i had actually gotten arrested because of my drunkass friends and the local laws in the town (social host law, can't drink in motels there) i was in. well, needless to say, they didn't find out who i was by some crazy act of god, i got the bail money sent and the kid dipped with it, so long story short i attempted to take my life. they had me in with the crazies the rest of the time, 23 hour lock down a day, at first with a muttering smelly fellow that i truly felt very sorry for, he was lost in the system, and eventually alone. i got out of there with an alias, and later i was driving for my friend who was on MG seeds, and got pulled over for a taglight. i was honest, and told him i wasn't licensed, that the car was all legit but my friend was drunk and i refused to let her drive. used the name told them i had just been in their jail for possesion of marijuana and some other shit that wasn't my fault. they gave me a tickety and let one of my other friends drive away.that name later came in handy all the times the cops would stop us for panhandling and/or sleeping in our vehicles in parking lots. what a crazy dream that was ;)

i've got lots of great stories if anyone gets bored, just ask
 
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