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Stan the man

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Plain and simple, I'm addicted to shooting up opiates. I thought I had it under control but I don't. I've promised my bestfriend I would quit shooting up for her probably a hundred times. Every time I completely mean it but I end up slipping and doing it again :/ 2 days ago I told her this really was the last time and I was sober for 2 days....but I slipped up again today. I ended up missing like 3 different shots of morphine tonight and I feel its like God punishing me for breaking my promises. I really do want to quit shooting up but I just can't. I need help but I refuse to go to rehab.....
 
You gotta have it in YOU to want to stop.... plain and simple.... rehabs not going to do anything if it's not in your heart to stop..... and I feel you dude, it is hard.... hardest thing you'll ever endure in life probably, but you just have to find it in YOU to stop using.
 
I want to quit. I mean i dont want to quit but I do. I LOVE it but its so not worth losing my arm or my life or even my bestfriend....I don't want to live like this anymore but its so hard
 
If it isn't set in stone in your mind that you will quit right now, you probably will remain on it for some time ahead.
 
the good news is that it sounds like the seed of sobering up has already been planted. you seem to be in a pretty shitty place, even with the drugs in your life, but like everyone else has said, it's gotta be on YOU or else it's worthless. but it sounds like you're probably getting there. one day it'll be bad enough for you, and hopefully that won't mean having to lose your friend or your arm. just know this. drugs are always available. anywhere you go in the world, drugs will always be there for you. people are simply not the same. they get sick of your shit and never come back, no matter how much time you've had clean or how well you've turned your life around. so if you value your friends and your relationships, start thinking about them more seriously, and what a fucked up world it would be without them.
 
majorigpa said:
the good news is that it sounds like the seed of sobering up has already been planted. you seem to be in a pretty shitty place, even with the drugs in your life, but like everyone else has said, it's gotta be on YOU or else it's worthless. but it sounds like you're probably getting there. one day it'll be bad enough for you, and hopefully that won't mean having to lose your friend or your arm. just know this. drugs are always available. anywhere you go in the world, drugs will always be there for you. people are simply not the same. they get sick of your shit and never come back, no matter how much time you've had clean or how well you've turned your life around. so if you value your friends and your relationships, start thinking about them more seriously, and what a fucked up world it would be without them.
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I feel you big time. I love shooting and I want to stop but I'm not quite there yet. I've past the 48 mark for my last shoot feel like hell.. It was an unintentional wd. Even though I've got this far I know when I get cash back together I will start over again. But reading this quoted post is prob the best advice I could have been given. Best of luck to you :) x
 
Look, I don't care if you do or don't but I lost all my friendships because of this shit. Now, I am stable and clean, and no one gives a rats ass. I'm happy though, old friends or no friends. Would be great to have em back, but I don't. Such is life. But, and this is a very big but, if the first thing you want to do after you get some cash is cop, tell your best friend that you are a lost cause for now and you will call her when you get better. A friend of mine, while still speaking, told me what I looked like, in graphic detail, when I was at my worst, you don't want to put anyone (your self included, but hey, your gonna do what you are gonna do) though that. Shit if I was you, after 48 hours I would go home and cry to mommy to keep me locked in a room for a month now. Throw my old phone away, and deal with it. You know how sometimes a girl is stuck with an abusive boyfriend but she just loves him so much? Girl you, abusive boyfriend heroin.

Do I feel for you? Nah. I wasted seven years almost on that shit. Oh and you know that there never is a "there yet" moment with this crap right? I mean there is, once you loose all your teeth, you get a disease, your standard procedure with heroin really. If you are waiting for that to happen, good luck buddy. So, like i said, do or don't I don't care, but someone obviously does.
 
Stan the man said:
Plain and simple, I'm addicted to shooting up opiates. I thought I had it under control but I don't. I've promised my bestfriend I would quit shooting up for her probably a hundred times. Every time I completely mean it but I end up slipping and doing it again :/ 2 days ago I told her this really was the last time and I was sober for 2 days....but I slipped up again today. I ended up missing like 3 different shots of morphine tonight and I feel its like God punishing me for breaking my promises. I really do want to quit shooting up but I just can't. I need help but I refuse to go to rehab.....
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Stopping for someone else never works. You need to do this for yourself, and yourself only. Only then will you succeed. You need to look into the mirror and be honest with yourself, do you want to continue using? If so, making empty promises is useless and will only hurt the people around you and your self confidence. If you don't want to continue using, there are other options than rehab, like methadone/subutex maintenance if you don't think you can stay off the opiates. This can help get your life back on track and you can come off it later when you feel ready for it.
 
You just have to ACTUALLY want to quit and be done with it. If you can't quit, more then likely you don't want to in some way.


Plain and simple.
 
Detox or rehab is NOT the answer. My parents made me go and about 2 months after detox still being in outpatient rehab group i relapsed as soon as I had the chance, the whole time i was thinking "when can i get some heroin." Now they found out i relapsed and am going on suboxone and this time actually want to stop because my life is starting to go to shit even more. The only way to stop is realizing how much you truly hate the drug and that it is the drug telling you, you like it and not yourself. Mind over matter is the only way to defeat strong opiates
 
^ This guys input is a little biased because he clearly had no desire to quit, and was FORCED to go. If you go to rehab or detox BY CHOICE, and you truly have even a small desire to quit, its possible.

Me and my addiction doctors/social workers all think its a myth that you need to hit rock bottom in order to quit. While a rock bottom does make it a lot easier (no where to go but up) if you really want to be done you can be done plain and simple.

You DO have to want it though, more than anything.
 
I'm going to move this over to TDS... there are some really good people over there who can help you deal with this.

Don't take offense on the move though.. it's nothing personal, this topic just isn't OD material and you'll get better responses in the proper place. I will come back to this thread over in TDS and offer whatever help I can as well.


OD----> TDS
 
the ONLY way youll stop doing the shit is if YOU truly want to quit. Maybe you need to spend a few thousand more dollars or get hep c or something before you decide you want to be done. Hell maybe you never wanna stop and just be a junkie your whole life. Its up to you but most people wake up one day and look in the mirror and deiced its time to call it quits. Seems as though your already on your way there.
 
The thing that struck me in your post OP, was the fact that you are trying to quit for a friend.. based on a promise. In my experience... there's the problem and the reason why you're not able to stick to it.. Very rarley does anybody stay sober by being forced into it, whether it be by the courts, a family member, spouse, etc... Yeah, you'll try and you'll do it for them either because you love them or maybe you just want them off your back. Of course, getting thrown in jail is forced sobriety too... at its finest. Most people who get out.. they don't stay clean. Same thing for people doing it for other people, no matter how good their intentions and how much love they feel for that person.

In my life, the people I've known who got clean and stayed that way, did it for themselves.. after many many attempts at doing it for other people/courts. You have to just be done with it..fed up with the way you are living and want to change for yourself and only you will know when that time comes.. Your friend is going to have to accept that.. just like all of our loved ones eventually do.
 
Start taking NMDA antagonists to lower your tolerance while you taper down. Try and get your hands on some proglumide (I can't remember the product name but if you research it, theres a product that you can order over the internet) which will cut your tolerance in half. If you have the money, you could order some ibogaine HCl or go to a clinic in Canada, Mexico, Costa Rica, Holland etc. Go to a doctor and tell them you've quit cold turkey and get them to prescribe you gabapentin and clonidine to manage the w/d symptoms. Gabapentin alone works wonders for opioid w/d symptoms but combined with clonidine it works even better.

The Dope Man said:
the ONLY way youll stop doing the shit is if YOU truly want to quit. Maybe you need to spend a few thousand more dollars or get hep c or something before you decide you want to be done. Hell maybe you never wanna stop and just be a junkie your whole life. Its up to you but most people wake up one day and look in the mirror and deiced its time to call it quits. Seems as though your already on your way there.
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My dad got hep c but that didn't stop him doing H. What made him quit in the end was getting into gnosticism at around age 50.
 
Write a list with two columns. One column for the pros of taking opiates and the other column for the cons.
There should be plenty of reasons to stop using and I don't think you can really find one benefit, apart from getting high maybe.
Have you ever thought of a methadone programme,that is what I chose and its taken me a long time but now I will be 5 months clean come the end of January.
Opiate use will just keep yr life at standstill while yr habit progressively gets worse.
I hope you find something that will work for you, all the best mate.
 
There's only so many options available for addicts, I know because I've been there.

Rehab

12 step programs

Maintenance therapy

Stopping on your own

Institutionalization

They can be done in combination but the matter of the fact is that no one can simply rescue you from addiction.

Are you willing/able to take te steps to follow a course of action that will result in recovery?

If yes then start getting your life back ASAP!

If no then continue your current course of action until death, institutionalization or you decide you're ready.
 
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