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Opioids I need help, badly...

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teological

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Hey guys, I have been an opiate user for about 5+ years. It started off as we all do, monthly, then weekly, then daily. About a year ago, I would dose about 3 - 5 times a week, and had the ability to take massive tolerance breaks when I wanted. My longest tolerance break was 4 months and my minimum about 2 weeks. Now, it seems, I have lost that ability...I can not stop, heck I can not even get passed day two anymore...

I have used, opium, ms contin (morphine pills), codeine....and now have found an almost endless supply of oxycontin. When I say endless, I do not mean 120mg a day everyday, when ever I want....but for my tolerance level of about 25mg - 35mg, I can get high, and also find the pills ever single day, whenever I want.

I am stuck, I can not get off them....I am sure it is more psychological than anything. The withdrawals are not that bad, but I just love getting high off them, plus the endless supply, I can not stop. I have tried to take short breaks, tolerance breaks, I can not even get passed day 2 anymore.

QUESTION

I love opiates, but I also love drugs. If I can find a drug to replace my opiate use with, I will be able to stop, I know that for sure. All I need is to get high.....can anyone please give me some good ideas on what drugs would be good to replace my opiate use with please, just so I can break the cycle?

Weed; I get extreme anxiety, so that is a big no no. Methamphetamine; I lose my mind on a sexual level and go apeshit horny, so no no...lol

Anything else goes....help. plz (legal, illegal, herbal, anything that you find useful)
 
If you just need to be high, I think you're in for a rough road. Since you're already using morphine, you will continue to seek the higher highs. You're already struggling to stop using and in the interest of harm reduction, I don't know of a good suggestion. Like Monk said, perhaps replacement therapy will help you quit opiates. It's good you want to quit at this point in your life.
 
Dude the way yer thinking is gonna set you up for failure. Youve got a habit. I mean you are gonna use or your gonna get sick so the best thing to do is to quit cold turkey and dont touch the pills again. As for other drugs man come on you cant be serious youve got an addictive personality and any other drug that gives the same good feelings like opiates do are addictive.

Man you gotta snap out of that shit because its just gonna lead to poly drug addiction and thats even worse. No other drug can 'replace' the opiates and get you outta the cycle. Besides what Felonious Monk suggested to get on maintenance but your asking to get high, not get help. Please re read your own statement and think about it very carefully.

teological said:
If I can find a drug to replace my opiate use with, I will be able to stop, I know that for sure. All I need is to get high.....can anyone please give me some good ideas on what drugs would be good to replace my opiate use with please, just so I can break the cycle?
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Felonious Monk said:
Have you considered a maintenance/replacement opioid like Suboxone or methadone?
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No, I have not really thought about it. I was in the mind-frame that my 25mg oxy tolerance was too low to get on MMT? I mean the withdrawals I get are not that bad. It is uncomfortable, but it is not so severe, to the point where I can fake being ok if I have to. I was under the impression that MMT is for the people who can not withdraw because of severity of the WDs?
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Do you still get a glow from each dose of methadone or suboxone? Doesn't even have to be a full on high...like do you still feel the opiates a little bit? Or is it stone cold sober feeling?

T. Calderone said:
If you just need to be high, I think you're in for a rough road. Since you're already using morphine, you will continue to seek the higher highs. You're already struggling to stop using and in the interest of harm reduction, I don't know of a good suggestion. Like Monk said, perhaps replacement therapy will help you quit opiates. It's good you want to quit at this point in your life.
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Yeah, I need to have something at least at night after work....anything besides alcohol. Rather be sober. If in the interest of harm reduction you are not giving me suggestions for good replacement tools, I think it goes against HR. I mean, I will continue to use the Oxy or opiates and maybe end up on heroin? I need to find something else that can fill the gap....
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Dude the way yer thinking is gonna set you up for failure. Youve got a habit. I mean you are gonna use or your gonna get sick so the best thing to do is to quit cold turkey and dont touch the pills again. As for other drugs man come on you cant be serious youve got an addictive personality and any other drug that gives the same good feelings like opiates do are addictive.
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Bro, I know I am fucked. The sickness is not that bad, but I need something dude. I just can't be at home sober, it is not relaxing...I need something, even legal herbal remedies.....

Please, does anyone have any ideas besides telling me to quit?
 
If you do not get this under your control soon your small tolerance will increase, and there will be an ever increasing hole in your pocket as your require larger doses to ever increasing diminishing returns, but I assume you already know that. Being in a mindset that I have to get high is a dangerous and not very stable way to live, but I assume you also know that. I've been in both the places i just mentioned. You could try what i did and failed miserably at; get high on a benzo one day, get high on an opiate the next, on dissociative the next day, and meth the day after, etc, etc. In the end I just wound up addicted to meth, benzos, and opiates all at the same time. You could stick with the opiates, but tolerance is an unavoidable foe that defeated me to the extant that I only get high on opiates once a week at the moment, not because I choose to, but because my tolerance is so large I can only afford my $250 for an all day opiate high once a week (10 30's during that day). Sorry I dont have any better experience to share, hopefully you get something figured out better than I was able to :\
 
It would be wise to stop taking opioids.

I found the first two weeks hard, then it became almost too easy. I was fine without taking opiates for months... then after a few months it gets even harder. it's when boredom sets in. and you want to get high so bad. My downfall was that I didn't really find anything that proactive or interesting to replace taking opiates; Try to find a cool hobby or something it will make it much easier at the 3 month stage.

I actually found mxe for when i really needed something. alcohol too . But i exercised moderation with these. They could cause you much more problems. i only did these 3 or 4 months after opiates.

You might have a hard journey just be prepared to battle and struggle. fight with everything you can if you want to live a overall better life. (you want to quit) so do it. dont fuk around and sort your shit out. life does get good without them, it takes a while for brain to heal though to get 95%. abstinence from drugs can feel good for your brain.
 
You got a really low tolerance quit while you can or youll end up doing heroin, that's how it usually goes anyway. But 30mgs wouldn't even get me off sick.
 
how is that good advice misszippy? Yeah real positive. Op read zzz01 post hits it on the head
 
I hear in your words the same awful place I am in: the need/desire to quit, knowing full well you are headed down a bad path, but not able to face life cold, hard sober either. But I gotta tell you, please while you still have a relatively low dose habit (compared to mine which is HUGE now and IV), get out while you can and before it gets worse. I have to stick a needle in my messed up arm every 3-4 hours with huge doses of dilaudid just to function.

And I don't know how to face life coming up without it. But, I know it has to go down that way for me. This life ain't sustainable and from where you are, it just can get worse. I am in the middle of trying to come up with not only a taper plan, but a life plan to get my head out of the needle being my feel-good go-to. Not easy, but try to get something in your life that can hit those pleausre centers. Find ONE good thing that gives you pleasure and seek that. I am trying to find mine, lol, most of us are.

Right now, finding some yoga breathing that actually helps more than most things. Warms me up, gets my heart rate up, flushes out the bad. It is one small thing I am working on.
 
I soooo know what you mean, I remember the days when I could use a couple vics and be good, and most importantly, I did not NEED anything to function, it was just a little 'kick', but now I actually NEED some type of opiate to even function on a daily basis..it sucks, and whats worse, when I do fix up, the high is not that great, its almost like I have to take something, JUST to get to normal...but Ive heard this same story countless times.

Its really a vicious cycle, if an addict has money, it WILL go to junk, and if an addict has no money, they will do anything to find money, but everyone here already knows this game, I think when it turns to doing illegal things to get money is the point at which there is no turning back.

Ive discussed this with a good friend many times, and she said I would not be happy even if I had a huge pile of H sitting in front of me, like the pile of coke scarface had LOL she said I would just use more and more, and even that huge pile would be gone eventually and Id be left with nothing but an even worse tolerance and habit to support.

So unless your supply is TRULY unlimited,(which Id love to know about)lol, but short of having boxes and boxes full of pill bottles, or pounds and pounds of H laying around, I can not think of a way to gain an unlimited supply, as not many people have unlimited cash.
 
No one's mentioned Kratom?

I'd look into trying kratom, if you're just using pills when you come home to relax. Kratom can be hit or miss, but I liked it the few times I tried it. I also found it a little more difficult to use daily because of my weak stomach, but I know people who will use 20+ grams a day.

I know you said marijuana gave you anxiety, try smoking less? I know weed isn't for some people, but a good portion of those who don't like it only dislike it because they get too high..

Get a hobby, get some sober friends, sign up for netflix, go for jogs, try learning an instrument, and some more preachy stuff.
 
So you are addicted to opiates, that is the point of this post? This is an awfully common situation.

Replacing the addiction with another is really pointless. Firstly, nothing is going to compare to the opiate highs. Secondly, because of that first point you will most like relapse if you are hooked on some inferior high.
 
Dude, trust me (sorry but I'm not trying to preach) but you have a semi-manageable habit right now but I assure you it won't stay the same. 35mg will become 50, 100 etc., you get the point. Your brain will start talking to your body saying, what's this weak ass shit he's giving us, take more! It will creep into you before you know it. I know because I started on 5mg Percocet's and ended up on 400mg of OxyContin a day (legally). That my friend is a serious habit to quit. Either keep things under control or know things are going to get messy. BTW, how are you paying for all those pills?
 
Hey guys, thanks for all the responses. I am withdrawing right now and I am writing this with my body aching, fuck it is bad. I have already planned out my hobbies to include gym and martial arts classes as I was a fighter for about 6 years, and it has been about 8 months since I have stopped all these activities and fell into an everyday use hole.

I had read about MXE and was quite interested. Problem is, I am in Australia and I can not find it. I also can not buy it off the internet as customs will cease?? Or am I wrong on this??
Kratom, I am not really interested in as it is just another opiate agonist. MXE, I am interested in. Alcohol, I just HATE, I would rather stay sober I swear.

This is day two clean, and I have around 5 Xanax 2mg that I can use to sleep, but I would NOT use a benzo everyday, as I have felt what a three week use withdrawal felt like and....no lol

I am paying for the pills because I own a construction business and bring in a good amount of money. I usually gets the 5mg Endones, thus I can not really use a large amount as that would use up the rest of the week doses.

@ Moeron, you know what man, I had actually thought of that exact same plan LOL....

Any more suggestions would be nice, especially on MXE - is it really readily available?
 
I've little to no sympathy for you OP.

You're recreationally using drugs for fun, you don't want to use opioids or benzo's so you're asking what else there is on the market that you can get high on.

Addiction is a serious disease. You are not an addict. You're just mucking about with drugs to get high and making it out as if you have a problem.

My advice? Get a hobby and grow up.
 
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