pharmakos
Bluelighter
high on mutated chromosomes mmmm
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I Like to Draw Pictures of Random Molecules
pharmakos
Bluelighter
high on mutated chromosomes mmmm
Bagseed
Bluelighter
yo pharmakos, with dat cisplatin in your body you should be able to give some anecdotal evidence!
(I hope you are doing well regarding the circumstances...
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pharmakos
Bluelighter
I'm worth slightly more on the black market!
Bagseed
Bluelighter
^ decarboxylation in vivo is the goal I assume?
sekio
Bluelight Crew
hydroxyflunitrazepam water soluble prodrug aka "super roofies"
drug companies in india take note
Bagseed
Bluelighter
lol :D
blueberries
Bluelighter
Should be similar as methadone
I have a /lot/ of these drawn up! The patterning in the open chains is beautiful. What got me even more excited was Piritramide; it's (almost) pethidine jammed onto where your pyrollidine ring is. I had a chance to try it last year actually, lovely compound.
blueberries
Bluelighter
This is probably a rookie mistake but something got to me this morning; Shulgin missed out one of the TMAs. It's this one:
Is there any reason why he missed it out or does the a-methyl flip round to make TMA-3 or something?
blueberries
Bluelighter
hydroxyflunitrazepam water soluble prodrug aka "super roofies"
drug companies in india take note
Heh! I had a similar idea: Nitrifluorazolam
I love the water soluble touch though, you could take a page out of Rilmazafone's book there. Something like this:
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blueberries
Bluelighter
Final one, I swear. So...I started out by trying to make a lefetamine analogue but with oxymorphone attached to one of the phenyls, then I got a bit carried away and made a sort of "cube" (I can't remember the word for a six sided 3D structure, it's not even that anyway) from it's arch. I'm 99% sure it will never work but what about the possibility of creating 3D structures over morphine aside from the original arch?
Ooh and quickly; is there any possibility of a dioxycyclobutyl (not really butyl anymore though!) ring instead of an MDO on amp? Eg:
aced126
Bluelighter
Final one, I swear. So...I started out by trying to make a lefetamine analogue but with oxymorphone attached to one of the phenyls, then I got a bit carried away and made a sort of "cube" (I can't remember the word for a six sided 3D structure, it's not even that anyway) from it's arch. I'm 99% sure it will never work but what about the possibility of creating 3D structures over morphine aside from the original arch?
Ooh and quickly; is there any possibility of a dioxycyclobutyl (not really butyl anymore though!) ring instead of an MDO on amp? Eg:
Artemisinin is the only drug I know with a peroxide bridge. In your particular case, there would be too much strain as well. See how in benzocyclobutene, the square isn't really a square, it is more a trapezium, because the phenyl bonds are trying to project from an angle of 120 degrees. I guess the same issue would happen here, but only with a much more reactive moiety. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzocyclobutene#/media/File:Benzocyclobutene-3D-balls.png
Incunabula
Bluelighter
This is probably a rookie mistake but something got to me this morning; Shulgin missed out one of the TMAs. It's this one:
Is there any reason why he missed it out or does the a-methyl flip round to make TMA-3 or something?
That is TMA-3
blueberries
Bluelighter
Yeah, I figured soon after!! There's definitely something interesting there though, I was reading the Isomescaline entry earlier. Fascinating. I wonder what could activate them both? I mean it's said that DMT is present in schizophrenic patients' urine, so perhaps it's something there; maybe sigma in spades! Then again there's probably a lot more going on than just DMT so it's anyone's guess. Also what's even more interesting is the difference in potency between MMDA and MMDA-3a. If we're following the 2,3,4 rule, shouldn't MMDA-3a be inactive instead of 4-5x the potency? The difference seems to be TAAR1 agonism, so perhaps the key to treating schizophrenia is with TAAR1 antagonists? So; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPPTB
Sorry I was kind of thinking aloud there!
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